Fully Enabled Nav Functionality!

[Runcrazy]

Hate to beat a dead horse, but these nav issues aren't going away anytime soon. Just purchased the 2011 limited 4runner with nav. Thanks for this thread, I know it's older, but still helpful to us "newbies"! I've been researching and asking questions for about a week now, and the best solution I'm getting is the Prestigious Society's Prestigious Society plug-and-play unit. While not the perfect solution, it seems to be the best "simple" fix for the time being.
The dealership people were very hush about this, almost acting as if they never heard of the problem. But they of course did know, and I got the subtle impression that something like Prestigious was the way to go. I was also quietly referred to Toyota Navigation which basically is just a place to register complaints about this.

Anyhow, I'll post if I decide to get this PS unit and how well it works.

Any one here been using Prestigious for awhile now? Still working well?

Chris

 

[DocMT]

Can't stand the voice commands on the navigation - that is my one complaint so far. Prior to purchasing the 4Runner we were looking at an Acura MDX, but it was too small for me; however, I really liked how they designed their voice command system - very fast and easy to use, no need to confirm everything.

When using voice commands in the MDX, you have to push the "talk" button every time you say something. For clarification, I'm not talking about a single push of the "talk" button...I'm saying that you have to do it every single time, even when you're just responding to the system.

Even my older Eclipse 6620 navigation system listens for your response without having to press any buttons.

 

[GP_Pete]

Anyhow, I'll post if I decide to get this PS unit and how well it works.

Any one here been using Prestigious for awhile now? Still working well?

Chris

Chris,

I use my "magic button" on almost every road trip. My wife wanted to smack me (she actually did) when I spent $300 on a 'fix' for our new vehicle. BUT now, she is very happy that I did. It works perfectly as advertised, and is easy to install.

At the time I told her, "well, it's either I spend another xxx-thousand dollars for a complete aftermarket system, or I do this and we can live with it happily by just pushing a button.

go for it.

Pete

 

[Sells]

Look at it this way at least you don't have a Jeep Commander anymore I had one for 18 hours total got it mid day and had it back on the carmax lot bright and early the next morning and was sitting in the toyota dealership by that evening best choice I ever made, worth every penny of the extra 18,000 I spent haha.

 

[Runcrazy]

Well, after emailing the company and getting nearly immediate replies to all of my questions, I went ahead and purchased one of the Prestigious Society's nav override units - on sale now for $275. Just installed it this morning and it took me about 1 1/2 hour or so (I work very slowly on stuff like this, so as not to screw anything up - check once, twice, even three times, etc.), so probably can be done in as little as 45 mins to someone who's good with electronics.

Anyhow, simple plug-play as advertised! Took it out for a test and it works fine so far. The only scary moment came when I started the engine and the engine/electronics quit almost immediately. I forgot that when you disconnect the negative end of the battery terminal, then re-connect it, the car will not start properly the first time (from the vehicle manual). The second start everything works normal again.....whewww!

The directions are very good and easy to use with pictures (a youtube video would be nice!). The trim molding, ac panel and the nav unit, along with the wiring came out and went back in surprisingly easy! About the only thing the directions were vague on, is where to mount the little square unit, the switch and where to bundle the wires during re-installation. So I just sort of winged it since there seems to be ample room behind the nav display and it all went back in okay, so I'm guessing it's fine. I mounted the little switch just inside the little empty accessory opening just left of the "cigarette lighter" plug-in, and it hides in there perfectly.

Going on 2000mi road trip next week, so will have plenty of time to run this through it's paces. I'll decide then if it was worth the price!

Cheers!
Chris

 

[MikeBuzzsaw]

Does anyone have the pdf installation guide? I'd like to see how extensive this unit messes with the stock unit.

 

[J.A.]

I hate to see you guys overpaying for the override. As mentioned in post 31 of this thread a waveform module can be built to bypass the lockouts. It is a great feature to have the ability to override anytime you want. I use it on every outing even if it is just to access MP3 playlists, etc.

As I have mentioned before, You can make your own...
Toyota 4Runner Factory Navigation Override and Unblock Bypass Module

Or buy one (at half the price of the commercially available units referenced in this thread) and have it immediately shipped out...
Toyota Lexus Factory Navigation Override and Unblock Bypass Module

Any questions, just let me know.

 

[kingpin748]

Just to be difficult are you sure this thing works in a 5th Gen?

 

[J.A.]

Just to be difficult are you sure this thing works in a 5th Gen?

Yes it works in a 5th gen.

 

[sandcrawler]

the cool thing about the coastaletech "lockpick" is that there's no button to push. it just works. (though, no, not in the 2010+ 4Runner at this time )

 

[K O]

the cool thing about the coastaletech "lockpick" is that there's no button to push. it just works. (though, no, not in the 2010+ 4Runner at this time )

Sounds awesome, except for the whole part about it not working.

I'd like to hear from someone who's installed the $120 waveform modification about their experience using it day-to-day. Install seems simple enough, and the cost is right, but does it work reliably?

 

[J.A.]

the cool thing about the coastaletech "lockpick" is that there's no button to push. it just works. (though, no, not in the 2010+ 4Runner at this time )

I dont believe this statement to be true at all.

From Costaltech site.

"To activate the Lockpick and allow uninterrupted ADDRESS INPUT or any other blocked navigation function, <b>simply press the DEST (destination) button 2x quickly (within 2 seconds)</b>. You will hear the navigation system BEEP 2x as the button is pressed, and then a 3rd time as the Lockpick enables the override function."

While there is no switch or button to install you still need to hit a button to operate. They all operate like that as you need to fool the system into thinking you are stopped and the system does not track properly while in that stopped mode, hence the button operation to disable/enable.

 

[sandcrawler]

mea culpa. the videos depicted it automatically dismissing the "agree to the legalese" screen and my memory must have muddled that function with others. in any case, to me it's preferable to have that functionality via a simple double-press of a button on the Nav unit itself — without an additional switch.

but it's a moot point as the danged thing doesn't work on the 2010+ Nav yet. (and who knows, may never at all.)

that said, your magic box looks like a smart solution and good deal for forum members, J.A.:thumb3:

 

[nglayton]

Just to be difficult are you sure this thing works in a 5th Gen?

I tested out these steps on my 2011 TE and they work, diagnostic mode pops right up!

1)After the ignition switch is turned ON, check that the map is displayed before starting the diagnostic mode.

2) While pressing and holding the "INFO" switch, operate the parking light control switch: OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF.

The diagnostic mode starts up right on the Nav screen.
It's kind of fun, you can play around testing various things. Might be useful in the future...

 

[Runcrazy]

Follow up on Prestigious Society Nav override device.

Following my 2000 mi road trip mentioned in post #45, I can honestly say - don't waste your money on this. In fact, don't waste your money on anything! Just live with it!

My device worked perfectly during all my initial local driving with it for a few days, and continued to work perfectly for about 300 miles into the road trip. Then it happened! While driving up the interstate, the whole unit (without any input), just froze up. Everything associated with the unit, nav, all music sources, phone, even the stereo on/off switch failed. The on/off switch for the override unit also failed to on. Finally had to pull over and shut off the car. Re-started the car and the music stuff worked but nav was still frozen. Tried to eject the nav cd -- not happening. Shut off car and waited a few minutes (my wife was very irritated at this point - new car and all right?!? "Why'dya have to go mess with it??"...yadda, yadda, yadda!).

So after a couple of minutes, I started it again and everything worked again normally....whew~! This time, I did not activate the override and just used the nav normally (programmed destination from stopped position). 50 miles later the nav unit only, froze again (wife shooting visual daggers my way, like daring me to stop again). Instead, I pulled out the old Garmin Nuvi (from my last car), which I fortunately brought along and got to my destination, where I immediately took out the override device.

The return trip home was uneventful and the nav unit (without override now), worked perfectly well - just with all the bs factory settings of course (it wasn't as annoying as I thought it would be).

Now I've got to see if they'll take the unit back. Doubt it, but I'll try! Sorry folks!

Chris

 

[Scuba6]

Follow up on Prestigious Society Nav override device.

Following my 2000 mi road trip mentioned in post #45, I can honestly say - don't waste your money on this. In fact, don't waste your money on anything! Just live with it!

Wow - sorry that happened, but thanks for reporting back! I was semi-considering this device, but now very glad I haven't purchased. After 10 months with my truck, there have only been a few times where the override would have even been used anyway.

 

[kmiller8821]

Wow - sorry that happened, but thanks for reporting back! I was semi-considering this device, but now very glad I haven't purchased. After 10 months with my truck, there have only been a few times where the override would have even been used anyway.

I've personally just become a master at using the voice system. Once you learn the screens and the format, you really don't even have to look down at it. While I admit it does take some "training" on your part to get used to the quirky ways it does things (ie.. you must say street numbers one at a time so 1200 [twelve hundred] must be spoken 1, 2, 0, 0 (one, two, zero zero)) Anyway, I usually program my routes before I go. When I took a rode trip a few weeks ago, I sat in the truck and added every place we wanted to check out to my address book so we could just click and go. Just my 2cents.

 

[MeBe4running]

I tested out these steps on my 2011 TE and they work, diagnostic mode pops right up!

1)After the ignition switch is turned ON, check that the map is displayed before starting the diagnostic mode.

2) While pressing and holding the "INFO" switch, operate the parking light control switch: OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF | Turn ON | Turn OFF.

The diagnostic mode starts up right on the Nav screen.
It's kind of fun, you can play around testing various things. Might be useful in the future...

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but was curious to see what you've been able to do and how well its worked for you since you installed it? Has it been worth the effort?

Thanks

 

[nglayton]

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but was curious to see what you've been able to do and how well its worked for you since you installed it? Has it been worth the effort?

Thanks

I didn't actually buy or make one of the override units, but I was looking into it for awhile. Just got to busy and never got back to it.

In the instructions for the build your own unit, it had the instructions I posted for getting into the diag mode of the Nav unit. I was just trying to confirm before I went any farther whether or not the set of instructions was BS. Confirming the diag mode was as far as i got.

 

[ochoa1801]

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