Gear Ratio

I know 4.10s would be optimal for stock 31" tires, but my real question is whether there are any major downsides to using my current 3.73s with modestly larger tires. I wonder how noticeable the power loss will be. I'm not really looking into re-gearing at the moment.



I haven't put the new wheels on yet, so I'm wondering if it's worth it for a purely cosmetic upgrade. Sounds like very few people will have experience running 31s on 3.73 gears since my combination is so rare.
It's going to be subjective either way. I can say I'd personally be fine with it more than likely, but would still spend the 200$ and a few hours to make it "right". I run 35" tires on my Tacoma that's got an automatic and 4.10's and it doesn't really bother me, a lot of people on here would be a different story.

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It's going to be subjective either way. I can say I'd personally be fine with it more than likely, but would still spend the 200$ and a few hours to make it "right". I run 35" tires on my Tacoma that's got an automatic and 4.10's and it doesn't really bother me, a lot of people on here would be a different story.
I guess there's no real harm in putting the 31's on and seeing how it drives. I can always pop in some 4.10s in the future. Where's the best place to pick up some 4.10 front and rear diffs?
 
I guess there's no real harm in putting the 31's on and seeing how it drives. I can always pop in some 4.10s in the future. Where's the best place to pick up some 4.10 front and rear diffs?
Search Craigslist for local partouts Facebook marketplace, local junkyards. They're everywhere in my area I could find probably 10 sets within 30 miles right this second.

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My V6 2wd Auto came has the 3.73 gearing. I am running 31” KO2 and it’s kinda doggy when you accelerate. It’s not really bad but you can feel it. I leave the OD off when driving around town. It actually saved me a bit of gas and better throttle response since it doesn’t drop into 4th gear.
But I do have a new diff with 4.56 gearing and a Yukon locker from ECGS waiting at home for install. Can’t wait to get some free time!!!
 
So you’re saying turning off overdrive saved you gas? How did staying out of 4th gear get you better mpg?

With OD off I am not mashing down on the gas in 4th to keep that speed going. Ya, the rpm is lower but the pedal is further down. On the fwy, ya OD is on of course. This is just something I noticed in my truck with 3.73 gearing.
 
I guess there's no real harm in putting the 31's on and seeing how it drives. I can always pop in some 4.10s in the future. Where's the best place to pick up some 4.10 front and rear diffs?
You sure you don't have the 3.90 gears? Anyway, I did the opposite while I was in process with my 4WD swap. I put in the rear 4.10 diff while I still had the 29" tires. There is definitely a large change in performance and highway RPM. You'll probably want the OEM 4.10's once you step up to the larger tires - but luckily there should be a ton of 4.10's out there and available for you.

You will probably also want to get some sort of speedo calibrator (I used one from Dakota Digital). The speedometer is driven off the ABS system, so changing your tire size (but not diff ratios) will affect the speedo.

-Charlie
 
Charlie,
I did the spin test with a co-worker here at my shop. I counted the driveshaft rotations while he counted the rotations on the tire. He spun the tire 20 times and I counted just over 37 rotations of the driveshaft.

I may do it again today to double check. I can't find a single source that says 3.73 was an option on any 3rd gen V6 4WD auto 4Runners even with stock 15" wheels. I should have 3.91 according to every reliable source I've found.

I may be buying some 245/75R17 tires this weekend to go with the 17" 5th gen wheels I picked up. These tires are 31.5" tall but obviously narrower than the stock 265/70R16 31's. Think I will be ok with this size. Is a taller tire harder to turn than a wider wheel like say a 265/65R17?
 
Is a taller tire harder to turn than a wider wheel like say a 265/65R17?
No, that's no problem. You will notice the lack of brakes... The 16" wheel trucks have bigger front rotors and calipers and bigger rear wheel cylinders. I still need to upgrade my brakes, especially since my wife daily drives the 4Runner sometimes...

It is also possible somebody swapped a rear diff and not the front. Do you get any binding in 4WD on hard surfaces driving in a straight line?

-Charlie
 
No, that's no problem. You will notice the lack of brakes... The 16" wheel trucks have bigger front rotors and calipers and bigger rear wheel cylinders. I still need to upgrade my brakes, especially since my wife daily drives the 4Runner sometimes...

It is also possible somebody swapped a rear diff and not the front. Do you get any binding in 4WD on hard surfaces driving in a straight line?

-Charlie

Swapping out at 3.9 and putting in a 3.73? I suppose it's possible but would be highly unlikely. Not sure what the benefit would be if someone did that, unless it was done accidentally.
 
No, that's no problem. You will notice the lack of brakes... The 16" wheel trucks have bigger front rotors and calipers and bigger rear wheel cylinders. I still need to upgrade my brakes, especially since my wife daily drives the 4Runner sometimes...



It is also possible somebody swapped a rear diff and not the front. Do you get any binding in 4WD on hard surfaces driving in a straight line?



-Charlie
Meh. I have had multiple trucks with the stock "small" brakes and 35" tires, it's not the huge difference that people make it out to be. Difference in pad engagement is something like an extra quarter inch. Never had a problem stopping my 4runner weighing in at 4200 lbs and a 90 lb wheel and tire on each corner.

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I just picked up an '02 V6 4WD SR5 for $1,500. Rear diff is howling. Looking at options and I'm already getting confused and conflicting information on gear ratios. The stock tire size is a 225/75-15, on the door sticker. The axle code is A02A. After Googling and reading a crap ton of posts, it's steering me to think the ratio is 3.90. But then I asked for a quote from Just Differentials/Nitro and they responded that I have 3.73 gears. And then a few posts up I see another person with the same year/engine/drive/trim is reporting a 3.73. Looks like I need to do the tire spin and driveshaft count thing to be sure.
 
I just picked up an '02 V6 4WD SR5 for $1,500. Rear diff is howling. Looking at options and I'm already getting confused and conflicting information on gear ratios. The stock tire size is a 225/75-15, on the door sticker. The axle code is A02A. After Googling and reading a crap ton of posts, it's steering me to think the ratio is 3.90. But then I asked for a quote from Just Differentials/Nitro and they responded that I have 3.73 gears. And then a few posts up I see another person with the same year/engine/drive/trim is reporting a 3.73. Looks like I need to do the tire spin and driveshaft count thing to be sure.
The door sticker on almost all 3rd gen 4Runners says the tire size is 225/75-15. There is a good chance your truck is actually a 16" wheel truck despite the door sticker. I say that because my 4Runner actually was a 2WD 15" wheel truck and has an A01A axle code, verified to be 3.73's.

I expect you have a 16" wheel truck and 3.90 gears - do the spin test to verify.

-Charlie
 
The door sticker on almost all 3rd gen 4Runners says the tire size is 225/75-15. There is a good chance your truck is actually a 16" wheel truck despite the door sticker. I say that because my 4Runner actually was a 2WD 15" wheel truck and has an A01A axle code, verified to be 3.73's.

I expect you have a 16" wheel truck and 3.90 gears - do the spin test to verify.

-Charlie

They're definitely 15" wheels because I just looked at the tires and replaced the spare on it that was 18 years old. The original Firestone spare was a 225/75-15. the PO put some Michelin LTX M/S 235/75-15 on it. Only a 2% size difference so I'm not too worried about changing the gear ratio.

I live at 7,000 ft elevation in the mountains east of Albuquerque, NM and needed something with 4WD for my son to get to/from school at University of NM, on the other side of the mountain, in town. So it's just for paved road use. I've got a '99 Land Cruiser for the off-road stuff. I don't plan to change the tires or the gearing. Just need to replace/repair the rear diff so it will stop howling and wanted to attempt to figure out the ratio without having to pull it out and count teeth.
 
Tires and door sticker.
 

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Sorry to break in but on a similar subject, did any of these trucks have a positrack rear end? Now that I have disabled my abs that would be a mod I would consider for my 2wd.
 
Sorry to break in but on a similar subject, did any of these trucks have a positrack rear end? Now that I have disabled my abs that would be a mod I would consider for my 2wd.

I don't think any 4runner came with LSD. Only option was a center locking Atrac or rear locker. Some Rav4 models have auto lsd.
 

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