Honda Accord vs. Toyota 4runner

smallfry

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Been debating whether to post this up or not but I decided to go ahead and post this.

About two weeks before I was to head back to Colorado to start another construction project a new driver (16 year old girl) panic when at a stop light suddenly changed. Instead of just going on though she slammed on her brakes and not having enough time to stop I slammed into the back of her going about 35-40 mphs (she left skid marks from her stopping and I left skid marks from trying to stop). I ended up pushing her vehicle completely though the intersection and I just came to a stop right at the light (luckly no one had started to go from the opposite lanes yet). All I could think of was 'Oh, Crap' up till the time I hit her then a slew of colorful language followed.

After the light changed again I continued on though and pulled up behind her along the side of the road. We both get out of our vehicles unharmed though she was pretty shook up and apologetic for stopping like she did. I was just glad she was ok. I ended up calling the police since she really didn't know what to do in an accident instead she called her parents (probable a good thing). We probable waited about 30 minutes for the police to show up so we could make the accident report (her parents show up in the mean time, nice people).

After making the reports and exchanging information we both headed out.

She wound up being sore for about a week (according to my insurance claims agent saw a doctor a few times)and I wound up with a ticket and 60 points on my license (I was fine).

Photo's of her vehicle and my 4runner:

Her car - 2000 Honda Accord


Her car was still drivable despite the damage, though it was ultimately totaled out.

My 4runner


I took minimal damage. The driving lights got pushed up into the grill breaking both, slightly bent the front lower part of the passenger side fender (that small piece under the headlight) and bent the front edge of my hood. The Shrockworks bumper did it's job just scuffed up the powder coat on the passenger side (no worse than rock wear you might get on the trail) and bud built skid probable saved my undercarriage some since it receive some scuff marks as well.


So a couple words of advice to everyone on this board

1. 'Slow down and don't follow too closely to the person ahead of you cause you never know what they are going to do'. If you rear end someone despite what the other driver does you'll be the one ending up with the ticket cause you hit them (I've read that there are some circumstances where the other can be proven at fault but you have to have pretty good evidence).

2. If you see and accident pull the crap over and make sure that everyone is okay and make a call into the police. Not one single person who saw the accident stop to check to make sure we were okay.
 
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So a couple words of advice to everyone on this board

1. 'Slow down and don't follow too closely to the person ahead of you cause you never know what they are going to do'. If you rear end someone despite what the other driver does you'll be the one ending up with the ticket cause you hit them (I've read that there are some circumstances where the other can be proven at fault but you have to have pretty good evidence).

2. If you see and accident pull the crap over and make sure that everyone is okay and make a call into the police. Not one single person who saw the accident stop to check to make sure we were okay.

Yeah, like if they stop and are backing up toward you at 25MPH. LOL
Seriously though, glad your truck wasn't hurt too badly, and you are OK. And thanks for putting one more Honda in the wrecking yard.
 
I have a newer Accord, nice peppy car with the V6, drives great, and gets 33mpg on the highway, but that comes at a price. It's built like a paper mache house, extremely light and thin sheet metal, it'll get a door ding just looking at it wrong or in a stiff breeze.
 
I had that IDENTICAL Accord when I was 16. Same year and color. I was rear ended at the same speed by a girl in a Grand Prix. It HURT. I had whiplash and a sternum fracture from my seatbelt. Despite that, I would say this Accord's rear end has twice the damage mine did. Goes to show what a decent winch bumper is capable of, and I wouldn't doubt she's pretty sore from a hit like that.

But I'm glad you could both drive away from it!
 
Yikes! Glad you both made it out of that ok.... I'm happy that your truck didn't get wrecked too bad.... that Honda on the other hand.... lol! I gotta say though... Honda's are pretty good vehicles... they may not have thick sheet metal.... but they run forever... :D
 
Yeah, Honda's are right up there with our 4runner in terms of reliability. Kind of like Toyotas little cousin.
 
In a situation like yours, sometimes some liability van be put on the front driver depending on your state and depending on whether there's any trouble proving what happened. The way you describe it, she should have been about 20% liable imo.
 
Yeah, Honda's are right up there with our 4runner in terms of reliability. Kind of like Toyotas little cousin.

No doubt Honda makes a pretty good product. I just happen NOT to be a fan. It's like not being a Raiders fan. Even if they have a good team, I'm not a fan because I'm not a fan of the fans. And I dislike what Skeletor, I mean Al Davis tried to do to Marcus Allen.

I also think Honda tries to hard to be "tricky" or cutting edge. Needlessly complicating many things. This goes back to the Keihin carburetor, and goes right to their modern suspension designs, unique steering fluid, and general Hondaness. Even worse on motorcycles, but I won't go there.

They could take a lesson or 90 from the simple but functional designs of Toyota, and even GM. :rant:

Look at that 4runner the OP is driving, it's a thing of beauty :twitch:
 
She stomped on her brakes and left a trail of skid marks to avoid going through a yellow?

Ho Lee Shit thats terrible!

Glad the 4runner made it through without any damage
 
I once had a situation, where the guy in front driving a 79 diesel (lots of smoke) took off from a dead stop where traffic is coming from one lane on the right, i looked right, looked clear and took off, turned left, he stopped! I tried to stop but too late, rear ended, insurance took care of his busted bumper shocks. Later, months later, i learned he went to the doctor and got 12 or so $500 insurance bills, exactly for $500. What kind of doctor bills like that?! So i questioned the insurance when they sent me a courtesy statement. They investigated they guy, watched him for awhile and learned he was scamming the whole time. So yeah watch out for idiots, those who you can't tell if they're idiots and those that might be. Whose left?! LOL Glad you took it in stride man! :banana:
 
Huh, 2700 North.

My advice is never follow too closely. If you rear-end someone, you are following too close, and will usually get a ticket if you hit them. Also, never assume another driver will do the logical thing.

ALWAYS assume they will make the dumbest move possible. Then when they do, you won't be caught up in their actions.

Assuming I am invisible, and that every cellphone talking cager is an incompetent driver, has saved me from being squashed too many times to count will I'm riding.
 
Well brother it's good to hear that your alright and I definitely think I'm going to invest in a nice bumper cause you never know maybe a front and back lol. Even build the sides up so I can be in my own little bubble.

Good to hear all is well and your doing fine as is she cause the cars can be replaced you can't.
 
Glad you guys are ok.

I am getting ready to make some repairs to my 4Runner so my 17 year old daughter can start driving it.
 
Wow! First time I've seen a wreck with the same bumper I have. 3rd gen prerunner hoop. Did well!!

I wound up with a ticket and 60 points on my license (I was fine).

California's point system is different. Mind elaborating what this means for you? Were you at fault for the accident to have received a ticket and points for something you technically didn't do?
 
I want to put a camera in my runner. This way I would always have proof in a situation like this.

Glad the bumper did it's job, and your ok smallfry Can you imagine if you didn't have armor on?? Armor is expensive but when you have an incident...they are a game changer. Been wanting to drive with a dashcam too. Just got to do more research on which dashcam is the best cost - to product ratio, too many unreliable Chinese cams out there. Been hearing a lot of horror stories of accidents where our fellow man is trying to cash in on our dime.
 
yikes! I'm glad everyone is alright. That's the worse feeling when you rear end someone, let alone getting rear-ended like that
 
Were you at fault for the accident to have received a ticket and points for something you technically didn't do?

If you rear-end someone, you are almost always at fault for not leaving sufficient distance between you and the car ahead.

One exception might be if a car suddenly swerved into your lane, slammed on the brakes, and you have witnesses to that fact.


Bottom line is the OP was following too close, and rear-ended the Honda. I'm grateful they're both ok, and that he wasn't following a Motorcycle.
 

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