How to Properly Adjust 1st Gen IFS Torsion Bars to Factory Specs (Via the SM)

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I decided to create this write up to assist with those of us replacing torsion bars, repairing or restoring a front end.

There has been a ton of mixed information floating around the 1st Gen 4Runner community regarding the factory height of the IFS 1st Gen 4Runners of 1986-1989. This forum as well as competing forums have thread after thread of tape measure measurements from the ground to the fender, hub to the fender, hub to the frame, etc. Every post produces wildly different numbers.

The information was gathered from one of these…

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Information on ride height and alignment correction are pieced together from a few pages.

Page "FA-3" instructs the technician that before alignment of the front end, the ride height needs to be confirmed as standard and correct, and it is shown where to measure for this here:

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Next to this photo are these instructions:

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This clarifies the correct spot to measure from, which is the "center of the lower suspension arm front mounting bolt" as pictured above.
These instructions also state to reference page "A-35" for the correct chassis ground clearance.

Page A-35 can be seen here:

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Confirming your model will give you the measurement down to the one thousanth, but that is impossible to adjust to. Adjusting to the tenth is possible, and extremely accurate.



1. Remember: This is for factory tire size and wheels. ***The chassis ground clearance numbers found on a-35 above is for 225/75 R15***. If you are running 31x10.5, which were a factory option, you must do the math for the additional sidewall lift.

That is a 1.35" difference, so for 31x10.5 tires, the technician would have to add 1.35" to the chassis ground clearance numbers found on page A-35. This applies to new tires, and not all tires are perfectly the same in size. To minimize error, do this with brand new tires only, properly inflated to specifications (26psi in the front for the 225/75 R15s).

2. Remember when adjusting you need to be on a perfectly level surface, say a leveled porch, or shop floor, garage. You cannot do this well on a seemingly flat parking lot, as the independent front suspension is, well, independent, and will not read correctly, leaving you with a leaning truck in the end.

3. Remember, you CAN adjust ride height on the ground, but you will need to drive in reverse and forward apply heavy brake pressure to rock the suspension to the actual height you adjusted to each time you turn the torsion bolts. Once the vehicle is close to the correct measurements, take it for a five minute drive, come back, check to see if there is change, and adjust and drive as necessary.

I hope this information helps those of you replacing torsion bars, repairing a front end from damage, or trying to compensate for heavy accessories. Sometimes the bars just sag unevenly after 25+ years. This is how they are properly corrected.

Good Luck!
 
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Roger that, cranking them as high as they can go like you recommend... JK good informational post :nod:
 
Very late to update this post, but here are all the numbers in relation to the correct way to adjust old/ install new T-Bars on IFS:

Remember, this is for the above explained 1986 to 1989 body style IFS 4Runner (it most likely applies to 86-88 IFS 4x4 Pickup too).

Tires:

225/75R15

Factory height -

(at lower control arm) ground to middle of mounting bolt: 11.2"
from 15" rim to bottom of fender lip: 13.5"

31x10.5R15

Factory height-

(at lower control arm) ground to mounting bolt 12.55"
from 15" rim to bottom of fender lip 13.5"

So for those of you who just want the shortcut answer, it is 13.5" from top of a 15" rim (factory size) to the bottom of the front fender lip. This is the best way to measure, it takes the tires out of the equation.

It is worth noting that I have worked on some 1st gen 4runners that measured 13.75" from the top of the 15" rim to the bottom of the front fender lip. This could be because the rear sagged, and changed the height of the front end - but if you are replacing bars or adjusting bars to stock then 13.5" to 13.75" is pretty much perfect - unlike the misinformation floating around the web stating "14 to 15 inches". That is far from stock on a rather limited IFS system.

Hope this helps everyone looking to restore a 1st Gen!
 
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I just answered a question regarding factory REAR ride height in the lift pic thread regarding how to measure the rear leaf springs to ensure stock height, and thought I would add it here for those who need the information during restoration:

Measure at the center of the front mounting bolt for the leaf spring on an extremely level surface, like a leveled garage floor:

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***The height should measure 16.3" on NEW 225/75 R15 tires inflated to 29 PSI. For NEW 31x10.5 tires add 1.35", so 17.65".***[


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Using the IFS information originally posted, the wheel to fender measurement (in the front) should read roughly 13.5" at stock height, so theoretically, since the fenders are 2" lower on the body in the rear, the stock height should be around 11.5", regardless of tire size.

If you do use the official method though...

Front tire pressure for either size factory tire should be 26psi, these trucks are quite light. (Ensure your front tires are not at 35 PSI or something, and people wonder why they IFS seems so rough in stock form, hahahahaha). Rear should be 29 PSI (sometimes door sticker says 35, but the numbers on the FSM manual page shown above are retrieved with tires @ 29PSI in the rear).



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Good info thx...so looks lime they measure the front in fsm at lower control arm mounting/adjusting bolt? What section in fsm is this in i looked for it before and couldnt find anything

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Good info thx...so looks lime they measure the front in fsm at lower control arm mounting/adjusting bolt? What section in fsm is this in i looked for it before and couldnt find anything

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Yes, that is the best area to measure it. The info is under the "FA" section (Front Axle And Suspension) under the alignment section, which is FA-3 in my book. Because the truck cannot be perfectly aligned unless it is at the correct ridge height, technically a true alignment is supposed to involve checking and correcting ride height first.

It is pretty easy to do, just remove the skid plate and ensure the entire vehicle is on a level surface. If the vehicle has significant rear sag consider getting it to the correct height with some assistance with a jack before measuring the front.
 
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I know I'm new here and this is my first post, but I am reading everything I can about these first gens. I'm running 31-10.5s. Since they are 1.35" taller than stock, wouldn't the measurement from the ground to center line of front suspension bolt be 0.675" higher since you are only compensating for 1/2 of the wheel's diameter (the radius). The top half of the wheel/tire change doesn't matter does it?

Thank you for posting this information. I need to get everything set to where it should be before I get it aligned. It hasn't been run in a few years and I am replacing a few steering components.
 
I know I'm new here and this is my first post, but I am reading everything I can about these first gens. I'm running 31-10.5s. Since they are 1.35" taller than stock, wouldn't the measurement from the ground to center line of front suspension bolt be 0.675" higher since you are only compensating for 1/2 of the wheel's diameter (the radius). The top half of the wheel/tire change doesn't matter does it?

Thank you for posting this information. I need to get everything set to where it should be before I get it aligned. It hasn't been run in a few years and I am replacing a few steering components.

No problem. To answer your question and to clarify, the 1.35" is the additional sidewall lift. They are actually 2.7" taller than 225/75 R15. You do not have to go through that trouble however, just use the method of measuring from the top of the rim (a 15" rim) to the fender lip. 13.5 inches is the target. This temoves tire size differences altogether. tire sizes vary from one brand to the other anyway.
 
Excellent, clear and precise info here. This info was quite timely as I rebuilt the front end on my 89. It was my first time dealing with torsion bars and as I replaced the upper A arm, this helped a ton. It lead me to buy that manual.

For anyone doing upper A arms, those torsion bars are clocked to the arms, so do yourself a favor and mark them prior to disassembly. Mine were marked on the ends of the bars, but having it in view gave peace of mind that it went back together correctly.

Thanks again for this thread!
 
So, I'm sitting in an airport making my mental to do list for when I return home. A thought occurred that my rear springs had only a 1/2" of sag, which I thought was a suspiciously small amount. Then the realization that a 1" body lift was done to accommodate the 5vz. Guess my front end was1" under spec when the alignment was performed. Just thought I'd throw that scenario into the mix.
 
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Excellent, clear and precise info here. This info was quite timely as I rebuilt the front end on my 89. It was my first time dealing with torsion bars and as I replaced the upper A arm, this helped a ton. It lead me to buy that manual.

For anyone doing upper A arms, those torsion bars are clocked to the arms, so do yourself a favor and mark them prior to disassembly. Mine were marked on the ends of the bars, but having it in view gave peace of mind that it went back together correctly.

Thanks again for this thread!

No Problem!
 
So, I'm sitting in an airport making my mental to do list for when I return home. A thought occurred that my rear springs had only a 1/2" of sag, which I thought was a suspiciously small amount. Then the realization that a 1" body lift was done to accommodate the 5vz. Guess my front end was1" under spec when the alignment was performed. Just thought I'd throw that scenario into the mix.

I dont fully understand. Generally on a stock truck you are looking at 13.5 front and 11 to 11.5 rear.
 
I dont fully understand. Generally on a stock truck you are looking at 13.5 front and 11 to 11.5 rear.

Sorry for the confusion. Basically it was the lack of measurable sag in the rear that got me thinking about the math. It was the 1" body lift that was throwing off the measurement. In other words, the sag was there, just misrepresented by the body lift. My "ah crap" moment was that I had the alignment done with the front an inch under spec, since a body lift affects the measurement between rim and fender lip. I needed to spec at 13.5 +1 & 11.5+1. Make sense?
 
Sorry for the confusion. Basically it was the lack of measurable sag in the rear that got me thinking about the math. It was the 1" body lift that was throwing off the measurement. In other words, the sag was there, just misrepresented by the body lift. My "ah crap" moment was that I had the alignment done with the front an inch under spec, since a body lift affects the measurement between rim and fender lip. I needed to spec at 13.5 +1 & 11.5+1. Make sense?

Ohhhh, yes I now understand. That must have been a nice ride though before you realized lol.
 
need math check please

Hello,

Possibly this thread is too old but I’ll try here first. After several weeks of wrenching and electricating on my nephew’s Frankenyota to get it to start and run again I’m getting ready to align it. Starting with ride height first, of course. But, I’m stumped on the tire height math shown here if tire size differs from the factory example.

It is claimed that the tire height correction between 275/75/15 and 31x10.5 is 1.35”. But, with a tire height of 27.4” for the 225 and 31” for the 31 this results in 3.6”/2=1.8” not 1.35”. I don’t see any mention of tire “squishability” anywhere so that doesn’t seem to be taken into account. What am I missing?

Thanks,
tesla
 
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