I have taken the plunge!

You hear that SV? And he drives a second gen, so you know he's already got questionable taste.

At least I made it 450 miles to Moab.

Each generation has their pros and cons
2nd gen's have nothing going for them. They suck. Various things.

Uh, you should read my build thread, watch my videos and look at my pics. You will find few 1st or 3rd gen owners with rigs that can do are that are willing to do half the wheeling I do with my 2nd gen.

I can see it now "3rd gens go to Moab"!

We invited the 3rd gens and they all chickened out.

SV, change your listing to 33x12.5x10.5 BFG KM tires. Give me the 35's.
 
I voted for KidV...

You're dead to me.

Uh, you should read my build thread, watch my videos and look at my pics. You will find few 1st or 3rd gen owners with rigs that can do are that are willing to do half the wheeling I do with my 2nd gen.

With the exception of Moab, I have gone everywhere you've gone. Moab had nothing to do with the capability of my 4runner or with where I have been willing to take it.

FWIW: IF I got a 3rd gen, it will do the same that my 1st gen does and more...... eventually.
 
Uh, you should read my build thread, watch my videos and look at my pics. You will find few 1st or 3rd gen owners with rigs that can do are that are willing to do half the wheeling I do with my 2nd gen.

We invited the 3rd gens and they all chickened out.

Uh, i'm not really sure what this is getting at, I was only pointing out that 2nd gens are my least favorite in stock form.
But at any rate, my friends' '93 seems more capable than that, and another's '99 is the most capable streetable 4runner i've ever known. ARB, Detroit, HP kingpin 60, 14 bolt, dual cases, 37's. God i wish i could have his 4runner.

But at any rate, I like your second gen a little, but more importantly, it looks like you love the hell out of it. In the end, that's all that matters. :)
 
So... I have other ideas. IF I keep my 4runner, I'll build the absolute heck out of it with no stops in any direction. Meaning, I'll build the heck out of the engine with a goal of 200+HP and 250ft/lbs tq. linked front and rear suspension using dana 60's and stepping up to a 37" tire. Of course I'll deck out the interior too. It will be a little spendy but I'll have my own vehicle that I have yet to see anyone else have. I have my own special plans on body work too :D

I had a nice conversation today with the folks at LCEPerformance.com and in order to get my HP numbers I'll need the following:
Pro Stroker Short Block Kit - 22R/RE/RET(85-95)
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Pro Fuel Injection Kit #3 Naturally Aspirated 4 Cylinder
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I could do an engine swap but I think in the end this will be more unique and more fun. Besides, if this video doesn't get your blood pumping, I don't know what will:


All of this is of course if I keep my 4runner. But it will be built to the hilt and it will definitely be a one of a kind 4runner with more or less all new parts from front to back to essentially make it a 2012-2013 4runner.
 
So... I have other ideas. IF I keep my 4runner, I'll build the absolute heck out of it with no stops in any direction. Meaning, I'll build the heck out of the engine with a goal of 200+HP and 250ft/lbs tq. linked front and rear suspension using dana 60's and stepping up to a 37" tire. Of course I'll deck out the interior too. It will be a little spendy but I'll have my own vehicle that I have yet to see anyone else have. I have my own special plans on body work too :D

:: drools a little ::
 
Get something with a little more man in it.

I know you like to have a little more man in your life so I won't hold it against you :D

I'm keeping the 4runner for sale for now. If it doesn't sell for my full asking price then I'll take the ad down and keep it. But nothing will be done on it till the end of March or early April next year. I'll be gone for a while in a school so it's good time to start putting some change in the bank.
 
They all have there points
1st gen light, cheap parts ,reliable
Whats a 2nd gen?
3rd getting cheaper to buy ,reliable
What's the weight to power bias ?
Sure the 3rds have 183 ponies ,but how many per ton?
and first gen 116 with a 22re
If the first gen has 3.0 then i would think you would notice less power in a 3rd gen 43 more horse power and a lot more weight
 
Why is everyone hating on the 2nd gens? Lets talk about reliability... ANY 4runner is just as reliable as the next. If you maintain your vehicle, it will be reliable. Capability goes as far as the parts you have on your 4runner, a driver helps too but either 4runner can be just as capable. A second gen has pretty much the same front end and drive train as a 1st gen. The real difference between the 1st gen and 2nd gen is that the 2nd gen has a hard top and 4 doors. Depending on what you want, a hard top and 4 doors is a huge plus! The 2nd gen is a lot lighter (correct me if I'm wrong) and a little narrower than the 3rd gen. The fact that it is lighter makes it a bit better for offroading because it's less weight that the tires are having to pull up a hill or a rock. It's narrower so it can wiggle through tighter spots.

All 4runners, 1st gen through 5th gen have their differences. I doubt that any one of them are more capable or better than the other. I think they each have their pros/cons. Ultimately, to each their own. But I wouldn't bash ANY of the 4runners. They're all good capable vehicles... even the new plastic ones.
 
Why is everyone hating on the 2nd gens? Lets talk about reliability... ANY 4runner is just as reliable as the next. If you maintain your vehicle, it will be reliable. Capability goes as far as the parts you have on your 4runner, a driver helps too but either 4runner can be just as capable. A second gen has pretty much the same front end and drive train as a 1st gen. The real difference between the 1st gen and 2nd gen is that the 2nd gen has a hard top and 4 doors. Depending on what you want, a hard top and 4 doors is a huge plus! The 2nd gen is a lot lighter (correct me if I'm wrong) and a little narrower than the 3rd gen. The fact that it is lighter makes it a bit better for offroading because it's less weight that the tires are having to pull up a hill or a rock. It's narrower so it can wiggle through tighter spots.

All 4runners, 1st gen through 5th gen have their differences. I doubt that any one of them are more capable or better than the other. I think they each have their pros/cons. Ultimately, to each their own. But I wouldn't bash ANY of the 4runners. They're all good capable vehicles... even the new plastic ones.
2nd gens are pretty ugly...
 
third gens are just fat second gens.... I'll slap some clear turn signal tails on mine and you tell me how close they look.

sooo off topic but I think we need to do a t4r moab event. get as many to go as possible.
 
I think the 2nd gens have a more 'rugged' look than the 3rd gens. 3rd gens are nice, don't get me wrong, however the majority of 3rd gens I see are driven by middle aged women... 2nd gens, are driven by american badasses.
 

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