Icon lift vs. PRO

Woodytwin

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I put money down on a 2015 TRD PRO but as I wait for delivery, I can't help but wonder if the ride quality of a $4,000 Icon 3" suspension lift would be a comparable ride.

I hate to admit it buy my rig will rarely see the dirt. I wonder if ya'll can tell me if the the stage five or six lift will give me a ride quality as good as the TRD PRO???? Yea, I wanna talk the talk (with the 3" lift) but I want to walk the walk too. Ride quality and a taller/badder looking rig is what I'm hoping for.

I'd like to put on some beefier tires to help get over deep snow.
 
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1. Yes the icon will ride better, and if you rarely see dirt why on earth are you wanting a stage 4? Why are you even upgrading in the first place?

2. Why did you buy a Pro if you're just going to pull the tires and suspension off of it?

3. WHY??
 
The TRD Pro doesn't have some sort of miracle suspension. MSRP on the TRDP suspension is $1800 and typically sells for $1500. It's based off the Bilstein 6112/5160 which can be had for about $1200 through retailers. Now you be the judge whether or not you think a $4000 Icon Stage 5 is better than the TRD Pro suspension...
 
1. Yes the icon will ride better, and if you rarely see dirt why on earth are you wanting a stage 4? Why are you even upgrading in the first place?

2. Why did you buy a Pro if you're just going to pull the tires and suspension off of it?

3. WHY??

LOL.... Well, I am strongly considering NOT buying the PRO in lieu of a TE with a bigger lift (than what the PRO comes with). It won't be hard to make the switch.

I want the ability to go crazy off road (IF) I decide to but I'm mostly concerned about its road manners.

I lifted my 2011 Tacoma with a $650 Pro Comp suspension lift with bigger tires and now it rides like CRAP! In hind sight, I should have spent more money on a "real" suspension lift. Still.... open to opinions. thanks!
 
I would forego the TRD appearance package and get a TE Premium, which has more than the pro does. And get an icon stage 1 or 2 if that's the brand you want.
 
I would have bought a Trail and got Chas at TotalAutomotivePerformance to hook you up with an unbeatable discount on an ICON stage 2 kit. Out the door on that is less than a TRD PRO including CA sales tax on the truck.

But in all seriousness if you're getting a TRD Pro I would not upgrade the suspension unless you needed something much more serious for off-roading. One of, if not the biggest reason for buying the TRD in the first place is the upgraded suspension over a Trail. And since you're not planning on "seeing the dirt" then I sort of question your thinking in buying the TRD to begin with, let alone an ICON stage 4....

But if you were to upgrade to ICON, I can personally recommend Stage 2 as thats what I have on my Trail.


IMHO, If you want the best on-road and off-road suspension then I can absolutely suggest ICON. Stage 2 is the best bang for your buck because you get an extra inch of travel over stage 1. Remote Reservoirs are really only needed for high speed desert stuff, and most of the time the standard 2.0 rear and 2.5 front coil-overs and plenty. Hit up Chas at TotalAutomotivePerformance if you decide to upgrade, he can hook you up with the best discounts and pricing.
 
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I have icon and think they are great but if I was doing it again, I'd consider King, Fox and Radflo. They are all high quality. Even the Bilatein 5100 will be improved and be "as good" as the pro suspension. Honestly, the Pro is mostly looks. I'd do a TE premium and do my own mods as I needed/wanted them. It certainly isn't advisable to get a pro and mod it at all tbh. The pro is aimed at people not wanting to mod but want a certain look (imho).
 
Since you're not taking it offroad, I wouldn't build it to do so. To really makea 4Runner shine, it gotta be scraping the ground. The tailpipe rubbed a bit when going over small pebbles, but bro... its looks over functionality. I'm pretty sure you could contact Icon directly and they would hook it up with a sweet lowering kit! Why go up when you can go down:withstupid:
 
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Since you're not taking it offroad, I wouldn't build it to do so. To really makea 4Runner shine, it gotta be scraping the ground. The tailpipe rubbed a bit when going over small pebbles, but bro... its looks over functionality. I'm pretty sure you could contact Icon directly and they would hook it up with a sweet lowering kit! Why go up when you can go down:withstupid:
 
Dude, what you really need on your on-roader is an Icon Stage 7.

Don't listen to anyone else in this thread.

Do eeeiit.

And totally go for bead lockers. You want to be able to air down to below 10psi...

Then just armor every square inch of it, like add 1000 pounds of bumpers, rock sliders, and underbelly armor.

Put some Oakley stickers on it and you're GTG.

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I don't care about spending the money on a quality lift... although, I do like a good "bang for my buck". There is nothing wrong with having a bad ass truck (ready for real off road) even if it never leaves the pavement. What the hell is wrong with owning a serious off-roader and rarely beating on it? To talk as though I'm stupid for owning a capable off-roader and rarely taking it off road is... well THAT is stupid.

A big reason for a 3" lift (besides looks ride quality) is to be able to get through deep snow.... lives literally depend on my ability to get around in bad weather.

For the record, I wasn't planning on modifying a PRO. After reading some of your responses, I will change over to the TE and add a lift and better tires and wheels.
 
I don't care about spending the money on a quality lift... although, I do like a good "bang for my buck". There is nothing wrong with having a bad ass truck (ready for real off road) even if it never leaves the pavement. What the hell is wrong with owning a serious off-roader and rarely beating on it? To talk as though I'm stupid for owning a capable off-roader and rarely taking it off road is... well THAT is stupid.

A big reason for a 3" lift (besides looks ride quality) is to be able to get through deep snow.... lives literally depend on my ability to get around in bad weather.

For the record, I wasn't planning on modifying a PRO. After reading some of your responses, I will change over to the TE and add a lift and better tires and wheels.

You will be happy either way, but if you do plan on lifting it get the trail.

If you get the Pro as I am sure you can tell from this thread, prepare to get bashed on a daily basis around here. Welcome aboard.
 
I don't care about spending the money on a quality lift... although, I do like a good "bang for my buck". There is nothing wrong with having a bad ass truck (ready for real off road) even if it never leaves the pavement. What the hell is wrong with owning a serious off-roader and rarely beating on it? To talk as though I'm stupid for owning a capable off-roader and rarely taking it off road is... well THAT is stupid.

A big reason for a 3" lift (besides looks ride quality) is to be able to get through deep snow.... lives literally depend on my ability to get around in bad weather.

For the record, I wasn't planning on modifying a PRO. After reading some of your responses, I will change over to the TE and add a lift and better tires and wheels.
Your 3" lift won't get you through any deeper snow. Now if you put 35" tires on there then yes, that will help some, but not much.

As far as "lives" depending on "your" ability to get around in bad weather? Pretty sure there are a few other guys out there that do whatever job you do too, and they are not trying to justify lifting a truck to save lives. Reading your posts it sounds like you want one of these to go to the mall and that is very close to having "bro" status...
 

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Your 3" lift won't get you through any deeper snow. Now if you put 35" tires on there then yes, that will help some, but not much.

As far as "lives" depending on "your" ability to get around in bad weather? Pretty sure there are a few other guys out there that do whatever job you do too, and they are not trying to justify lifting a truck to save lives. Reading your posts it sounds like you want one of these to go to the mall and that is very close to having "bro" status...

That would look pretty sweet parked at the mall!
 
If you get the Pro as I am sure you can tell from this thread, prepare to get bashed on a daily basis around here. Welcome aboard.

Repeating a lie does not make it true.

If you get the Pro AND post stupid crap then prepare to get bashed on a daily basis ON THE STUPID CRAP NOT about the truck. Its really not the poor truck's fault what sort of owner it attracts.
 
Your 3" lift won't get you through any deeper snow. Now if you put 35" tires on there then yes, that will help some, but not much.

As far as "lives" depending on "your" ability to get around in bad weather? Pretty sure there are a few other guys out there that do whatever job you do too, and they are not trying to justify lifting a truck to save lives. Reading your posts it sounds like you want one of these to go to the mall and that is very close to having "bro" status...

Do you even bro, bro?

Lives are at stake, bro.

You need a totally *****in suspension and maybe some fly ass dubs to melt that unrighteous snow away!

...OP could accomplish his Herculean task with a 700 dollar set of Blizzaks and save a fortune.
 
You will be happy either way, but if you do plan on lifting it get the trail.

If you get the Pro as I am sure you can tell from this thread, prepare to get bashed on a daily basis around here. Welcome aboard.

[MENTION=115435]Bevo[/MENTION] it's not owning a TRD Pro that causes people to get bashed. It's being a douche that causes the bashing. I might own a TRD Pro one of these days (LC more likely though) and I would fully expect to be excoriated if I posted, in a public forum no less, my lame justifications to mod for the Baja in order to go to the mall.

I understand people wanting to be prepared for any eventuality, buying said items needed and then never using them. The difference is how they do it. Coming to an enthusiast's forum where many actually go off road on a regular basis and stating you want to make $$$$ worth of mods to go to the mall is asking, begging for ridicule of the highest order. The word poser comes to mind.

We all know the 4Runner, in stock form, is one of the most reliable, dependable and capable vehicles you can buy in the US today. They require zero modifications to take you places very few vehicles out there can go. Modding to tackle difficult terrain is one thing. Modding to go places a Toyota Corolla can go is something else entirely.

Case in point:
Yesterday my wife and I along with a few friends went on a hike and packed a lunch. To get to the trail head was a seven mile drive down a dirt road. When we got there the vehicles around me ranged from a minivan to lifted F350 diesels. Easy dirt road. We hiked for around three hours and decided to drive down a trail to the river to have our lunch. There were a few vehicles down there and minivans were conspicuously absent. It was only about two miles from where we were parked but the terrain was far from a simple dirt road. It was a dirt road, but it was steep with switchbacks and rutted from erosion. When we were packing up to leave a Dodge 2500 Cummins that was lifted on 37's was leaving also. He left about five minutes before us. When we got to the first switchback he was stuck. He eventually had to back down (which made me have to back down) and take a much simpler line in order to finally get up to the top. I just put mine in 4HI (that's all) and calmly drove right through the switchback and on to the top. No drama, no spinning, no nothing. My 4Runner has no functional mods. It does have a new Gadsden Flag sticker on it though. Point is that truck was modded to look cool but by doing his mods he actually made the truck less capable. Those wide tires had reduced the already light rear end's ground pressure to a point that he could get no traction on the rear. In 4WD his front tires were not enough to pull that heavy truck around the switchback.

If people are going to mod then they should mod for a reason. If it's only for looks then say so and not try to justify it for anything else and be prepared for lots of comments.
 
Your 3" lift won't get you through any deeper snow. Now if you put 35" tires on there then yes, that will help some, but not much.

As far as "lives" depending on "your" ability to get around in bad weather? Pretty sure there are a few other guys out there that do whatever job you do too, and they are not trying to justify lifting a truck to save lives. Reading your posts it sounds like you want one of these to go to the mall and that is very close to having "bro" status...

A 3" lift will certainly help in getting through deep snow. In fact, three lives were (likely) saved this past winter just because I had the ability to get to patients when ambulances could not. I love my lifted truck for many reasons so "justifying" spending money on another one is pretty easy. Why are MY reason(s) for having a bad-ass SUV anyone's concern anyway? I'm gonna burn my money on whatever suits my needs and what makes me happy. "Bro" status is okay with me.

By your reasoning, I shouldn't buy a sports car if I'm NOT going to race it every weekend. That would make me.. like.. a double bro or something.

So, it seems like not everyone agrees on which lift system is best. Hmmm... I gotta lean toward the Icon lift simply because I've heard more about that lift than any other. I won't be jumping sand dunes at high speeds so I guess a stage 5 Icon lift would be overkill eh?
 
Why are MY reason(s) for having a bad-ass SUV anyone's concern anyway?

The moment you typed out your thoughts in a PUBLIC FORUM on the FRIGGIN' INTERNET it became everyone's business and concern. Can't you understand that? Telling the world you saved lives because you have a lifted truck? That is ludicrous and let's, again, the whole world know the depth of your thought process. Not even as deep as the shallow end of the kiddy pool. Snow tires get you a lot further than a lift bro. Oh wait, they aren't as bad ass looking so scratch that.
 

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