In case you missed the road test

[rennur]

2016 Toyota 4Runner TRD-Pro Review: The FJ40 of the 21st Century

 

[LandCruiser]

The Pro is a sad imitation of the TE.

And unless they can pull a live axle out of their asses, it will never be an FJ.

 

[Danimal]

2016 Toyota 4Runner TRD-Pro Review: The FJ40 of the 21st Century

Well, I really disagree with the comparison. It's also a super North American POV. Know what the modern equivalent of the Land Cruier is in the rest of the world? The Land Cruiser.

Dan

 

[Bevo]

The Pro is a sad imitation of the TE.

Yes, it's another stupid article. but what does this mean?

 

[LandCruiser]

Yes, it's another stupid article. but what does this mean?

It means you need to buy an Aussie HJ61.

 

[Bevo]

It means you need to buy an Aussie HJ61.

I'd love to have one, but I'm still keeping my nice comfy 4runner.

 

[veloindy]

I like the "cement" color.

 

[Simpleman74]

 

[Low-Tek]

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2016 Toyota 4Runner TRD-Pro Review: The FJ40 of the 21st Century

Yeahhh.... I stopped reading this article right here "— The Quicksand paintjob isn’t for everyone...It’s not the prettiest car out there."

*facepalm

 

[Friggin Idiot]

Accurately described what it's like to drive though:
"Because when driving the 4Runner, there’s something inside you that inexplicably wants to mount every small mound of road salt, drive through someone’s lawn just to traverse their drainage ditch, use the rough dirt shoulder instead of the safe, sensible highway just because you know you can. The 4Runner was built for rough terrain, and not driving on it just feels wrong."

I also like the mention about it being "delightfully analog." Some of us are old school who don't need all that fancy electronic gadget crap in everything we do. It's not inconvenient for me to insert and turn a key for ignition, it's habit. Lane departure, and collision avoidance are worthless when you actually pay attention to what you're doing. They could make themselves worthwhile once in a blue moon when they can react before I can, but to me that's not worth the weight, trouble, or repair of the tech that isn't used on a regular basis. I'd rather deal with a collision and the insurance company once every 5-10 years than have all that crap in my vehicle. Also I frequently wonder about the tech and it's ability to recognize that safest way to avoid some collisions isn't to stop, but to stomp the throttle and maneuver around the obstacle.

 

[phaedrustoday]

... Also I frequently wonder about the tech and it's ability to recognize that safest way to avoid some collisions isn't to stop, but to stomp the throttle and maneuver around the obstacle.

+1.

Nicely said.

 

[Danimal]

I also like the mention about it being "delightfully analog." Some of us are old school who don't need all that fancy electronic gadget crap in everything we do.

See, I've always felt specifically *not* old school driving a 5th gen. Tons of electronic doo dads and traction whatnots. Old school is no stability control, no 4WD traction aids, no active brake assist, no in-dash nav, etc. It's manual hubs, manual t-case lever, and e-lockers. I sold an 80 series to get my 4Runner and I feel like a total softie now.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 4Runner.

Dan

 

[Spenny]

See, I've always felt specifically *not* old school driving a 5th gen. Tons of electronic doo dads and traction whatnots. Old school is no stability control, no 4WD traction aids, no active brake assist, no in-dash nav, etc. It's manual hubs, manual t-case lever, and e-lockers. I sold an 80 series to get my 4Runner and I feel like a total softie now.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 4Runner.

Dan

I did the same and feel the same way. Nice to have a new car and no leaks, but . . . wish i had a garage (that isn't used for piles of crap) so I could have kept the 80.

 

[jrandom]

Heh my old Toyo PU was totally analog! I loved it, no power steering, manual hubs, manual transmission, 22re, roll-down windows.

My 5th gen, love it, with all its doodads it totally feels like cheating. I am okay with that because I learned on something without it.

This is the first truck I "really" learned how to drive on a mountain :madgrin:

 

[RedMagik]

Accurately described what it's like to drive though:
"Because when driving the 4Runner, there’s something inside you that inexplicably wants to mount every small mound of road salt, drive through someone’s lawn just to traverse their drainage ditch, use the rough dirt shoulder instead of the safe, sensible highway just because you know you can. The 4Runner was built for rough terrain, and not driving on it just feels wrong."

I also like the mention about it being "delightfully analog." Some of us are old school who don't need all that fancy electronic gadget crap in everything we do. It's not inconvenient for me to insert and turn a key for ignition, it's habit. Lane departure, and collision avoidance are worthless when you actually pay attention to what you're doing. They could make themselves worthwhile once in a blue moon when they can react before I can, but to me that's not worth the weight, trouble, or repair of the tech that isn't used on a regular basis. I'd rather deal with a collision and the insurance company once every 5-10 years than have all that crap in my vehicle. Also I frequently wonder about the tech and it's ability to recognize that safest way to avoid some collisions isn't to stop, but to stomp the throttle and maneuver around the obstacle.

To be honest the safety features in the wife's Outback make me a lazy drive in the sense I "relax" and trust the tech too much. In the 4Runner I still drive defensively.