Installed 3" lift, now re-thinking that decision -- Opinions?

Hmmmm. I wonder how true that is. Sounds more like someone's assumption that fact. Too many guys running around for years with diff drops.

Yeah, very likely. IIRC, it was a "X # of people who ended up with dead diffs had diff drops" and some assumptions went from there. Likely one of those things where people don't post unless it's broken, so there may be some bias towards those who blame the diff drop in comparison to the hundreds who run them without problems.
 
Measure your tire-to-frame distance on driver and passenger for the rear. With my 3", it was really obvious, and the alignment shop aligned the front as if it were a perfect track (which means I have to turn my steering wheel left to actually track straight).


Here's a shot of my rig with the PCK. That's the stock panhard bar and it's almost perfectly flat. The kit is cheap and made by a member that put a ton of research into it before finalizing the product. After a lift it's the first thing everyone should buy. Ok, maybe the second right after Lower Ball Joints. lol
 

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I'll have to check. Both sides of tires stick out the same amount, and I track pretty perfectly straight. Wonder if this is one of those things that affects some and not others.

The tracking straight may be because of your alignment shop. Mine intentionally left it crooked for when I fix the problem. If your axle really is panned, and your steering wheel is still straight, the shop likely just compensated for it.
 
Here's a shot of my rig with the PCK. That's the stock panhard bar and it's almost perfectly flat. The kit is cheap and made by a member that put a ton of research into it before finalizing the product. After a lift it's the first thing everyone should buy. Ok, maybe the second right after Lower Ball Joints. lol

Kind of obsessed with how nice that kit is. Some damn good engineering on his part.
 
Question for all of you, what other problems could I expect with this 3" lift? UCA issues? Sway bar links?

Contemplating the long-term cost tradeoffs between installing the eimKeith kit, or just going stock springs.

Another thought, what's the deal with the driveshaft striking the gas tank issue? Seems to me like that PCK should eliminate that too, right?
 
Another thought, what's the deal with the driveshaft striking the gas tank issue? Seems to me like that PCK should eliminate that too, right?


This is an issue some have and some don't. When you lift the axle is pulled to the passenger side, away from the tank. I've never had the issue with or without the PCK. Since the PCK re-centers the axle you'd think it would occur more with it for those with the issue. I haven't seen anyone report that in any of [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] threads though. My theory is that when the axle is pulled passenger side it wants to pull back to drivers side more when unloaded, thus causing the gas skid contact for some.
 
This is an issue some have and some don't. When you lift the axle is pulled to the passenger side, away from the tank. I've never had the issue with or without the PCK. Since the PCK re-centers the axle you'd think it would occur more with it for those with the issue. I haven't seen anyone report that in any of [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] threads though. My theory is that when the axle is pulled passenger side it wants to pull back to drivers side more when unloaded, thus causing the gas skid contact for some.

It also depends on the height of your lift. The taller the lift the more uneven the pan-hard is. Mine was hitting just making sharp right turns.

What is that crazy parking brake bracket on your axle housing? Thats not the normal lift extension.
 
This is an issue some have and some don't. When you lift the axle is pulled to the passenger side, away from the tank. I've never had the issue with or without the PCK. Since the PCK re-centers the axle you'd think it would occur more with it for those with the issue. I haven't seen anyone report that in any of [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] threads though. My theory is that when the axle is pulled passenger side it wants to pull back to drivers side more when unloaded, thus causing the gas skid contact for some.

As long as the PCK levels the bar as well as yours does, I don't quite see how that could cause an issue. Now, if someone put a longer PHB on, that makes sense to me.

It also depends on the height of your lift. The taller the lift the more uneven the pan-hard is. Mine was hitting just making sharp right turns.

What is that crazy parking brake bracket on your axle housing? Thats not the normal lift extension.

Implying then that an even PHB would ail the problem?
 
What is that crazy parking brake bracket on your axle housing? Thats not the normal lift extension.

Good question. That is the bracket the Toytec includes with there lift to extend the rear brake line down. I put on new extended stainless all the way around so I had no use for it in there intended location. I never did like the way my parking brake line sat below the axle housing in it's stock location. It's way to easy to snag it on things when wheeling. So I put it on the axle to raise the parking brake line. I had to loosen the bell cranks and back off the tension at the lever itself but now it's perfectly adjusted and my parking brake line will never catch on anything.
 
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Good question. That is the bracket the Toytec includes with there lift to extend the rear brake line down. I put on new extended stainless all the way around so I had no use for it in there intended location. I never did like the way my parking brake line sat below the axle housing in it's stock location. It's way to easy to snag it on things when wheeling. So I put it on the axle to raise the parking brake line. I had to loosen the bell cranks and back off the tension at the lever itself but now it's perfectly adjusted and my parking brake line will never catch on anything.

Learn something new every day..... I didn't know they included this bracket. The digging begins......
 
Good question. That is the bracket the Toytec includes with there lift to extend the rear brake line down. I put on new extended stainless all the way around so I had no use for it in there intended location. I never did like the way my parking brake line sat below the axle housing in it's stock location. It's way to easy to snag it on things when wheeling. So I put it on the axle to raise the parking brake line. I had to loosen the bell cranks and back off the tension at the lever itself but now it's perfectly adjusted and my parking brake line will never catch on anything.

Good thinking. Not nit picking what about the one for E-cable coming from body
looks kinda tight. :zoom:
 
Installed 3" lift, now re-thinking that decision -- Opinions?

For anyone reading this:
BUY THE PCK FOR $86!!
An adjustable bar will center your axle, but it doesn't accomplish the same thing as this kit AT ALL.
This kit will transform the way your 4Runner handles. I've had it on both of my 4Runners, and I can't believe how stable it makes them.

Buy the [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION]!
 
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OP, if you're happy with the ride quality then keep the lift. The Eibach springs were a little stiff for my tastes so I swapped them for OME 890s, but I don't have any armor on mine. When I get around to a rear bumper/tire carrier I'll probably put the Eibachs back in.

Once the PCK is installed, are the stock mounting holes still usable?
 
Question for all of you, what other problems could I expect with this 3" lift? UCA issues? Sway bar links?

Contemplating the long-term cost tradeoffs between installing the eimKeith kit, or just going stock springs.

My experience after a 350,000 miles and THEN doing a 3" lift. Everything else that was OE needed to be replaced. UCA and LCA bushings, ITRE & OTRE, LBJ's, CV boots, steering rack bushings, and the front sway bar links. All of those were probably needed BEFORE the lift but they quickly deteriorated after the fact. And spend the money for Toyota parts! I know Keith and the PCK is a must for any lifted 4runner.
 
Question for all of you, what other problems could I expect with this 3" lift? UCA issues? Sway bar links?

Contemplating the long-term cost tradeoffs between installing the eimKeith kit, or just going stock springs.

Buyer's remorse, got it.

But why did you lift your truck in the first place? Embrace that and then decide.

The reality of an 18+ year old vehicle, and modding it, is a never-ending investment that pays dividends in the form of personal satisfaction, recreation and a paid-off, quality vehicle that will run to 400K if maintained.

Stock height replacement springs cost as much as lift-springs, etc. Quality shocks cost the same regardless of length (not talking Monroe) new bushings are new bushings. You get the idea. Whether you lift it or not, you have an investment-grade vehicle, might as well invest in what you want it to be.

Good question. That is the bracket the Toytec includes with there lift to extend the rear brake line down. I put on new extended stainless all the way around so I had no use for it in there intended location. I never did like the way my parking brake line sat below the axle housing in it's stock location. It's way to easy to snag it on things when wheeling. So I put it on the axle to raise the parking brake line. I had to loosen the bell cranks and back off the tension at the lever itself but now it's perfectly adjusted and my parking brake line will never catch on anything.
[MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION] is crafty and practical :D but c'mon man, paint it black!
 
New to the lift kit scene

I am considering a lift kit but idk what I want I have looked at rough country's 3" lift but many say it nose dives and I do not want that I like toytec's spacer idea with 2" in the front and 1.5" in the back. I don't want a crazy expensive lift and nothing extremely high. I plan to keep stock tire size because I have just got new a/t's. Just wondering if there are better options than this.
 

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