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cangler
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is your 4R 4x4? I keep talking to toyota service centers and they seem put off by the idea of putting this Lexus driveshaft on a 4R with 4x4
Installed GX470 Driveshaft - Clunk/Thump Gone!!!!
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is your 4R 4x4? I keep talking to toyota service centers and they seem put off by the idea of putting this Lexus driveshaft on a 4R with 4x4
have you guys seen this?
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/93266-ford-fix-toyota-driveline-clunk.html
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/93266-ford-fix-toyota-driveline-clunk.html
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cangler
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I got the 08 v6 SE 4x4, so wasn't sure if it would work with the GX470 driveshaft... you think the v8 vs v6 matters on the driveshaft?
chaz
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in case anyone is interested, according to a lexus site, the clunk may come back to some, others not. read somewhere it may take 10-20k before/if it comes back. anybody put that much on after the change? http://www.toyota-4runner.org/probl...-tsb-page-18-aka-driveshaft-thump-bump-7.html http://www.toyota-4runner.org/probl...-tsb-page-18-aka-driveshaft-thump-bump-7.html
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cangler
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i may just try this lube route instead. but i don't know where it's even located or where exactly to lube...
I believe you want it on the slip yokes...see this sticky thread...
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/maintenance/28414-07-v8-4x4-zerk-fitting-pics.html
For the Ford grease, I don't think you can just squirt it in there...I believe you have to disassemble the drive shaft and apply it directly to the slip yoke and reassemble.
At least that is what is recommended from the Ford TSB on Rangers.
You might contact the vendor to see if they have any suggestions...
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/maintenance/28414-07-v8-4x4-zerk-fitting-pics.html
For the Ford grease, I don't think you can just squirt it in there...I believe you have to disassemble the drive shaft and apply it directly to the slip yoke and reassemble.
At least that is what is recommended from the Ford TSB on Rangers.
You might contact the vendor to see if they have any suggestions...
Greased my new to me 08 4x4 v8 Sr5 (28k miles) after reading this thread. It's pretty obvious It had never been greased before as it took about 1/2-3/4 tube of grease. So much for being "Toyota certified" and all that should entail. I did the front driveshaft and u joints as well.
Oddly, I don't think my '05 2wd v8 t4r has any fittings on the driveshaft or u joints. ill have to crawl up under there tonight and look. If it does, I'm sure I have greased them at some point...just not recently.
Oddly, I don't think my '05 2wd v8 t4r has any fittings on the driveshaft or u joints. ill have to crawl up under there tonight and look. If it does, I'm sure I have greased them at some point...just not recently.
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empty403
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SC Joe, did you have clunking noise or were you just doing it as a preventative maintenance?
I believe that is correct. The 2WD driveshaft has no zerk fittings whereas the 4WD has zerk fittings. I don't know if anyone with a 2WD has reported the clunk, only 4WD 4Runners.
I didn't experience the "clunk" until my truck hit the 10k or so mark. I grease the fittings every 5k miles and the clunk comes back within 1k miles or so. It would be nice to get rid of that noise and the feeling it produces.
Actually both. The vehicle had about 29K miles on it and it would "clunk" sometimes when it came to a stop. I don't think it had ever been greased before.
First time it did I thought someone bumped me from behind at the stop light...but noone was behind me.
I also had the Lexus propeller shaft installed and my truck is a new truck. I asked the service tech to put the Toyota and Lexus shafts together on the bench to see if we could visually notice a difference. We both couldn't see any difference.
Doesn't matter though. It did the trick. Was well worth the cost.
Doesn't matter though. It did the trick. Was well worth the cost.
bigwebb83
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here is the email I just got from the dealership. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Mr. Webb,
We have contacted Toyota about your problem and have come to the determination that the “thump” you are feeling is normal operation for that vehicle. The torque of that vehicle gets transferred out through the joints in the driveshaft as you come to a stop. This can happen instantly or take some time for it to happen. Lubricating the propeller shaft and drive shaft is the only fix, and it will not fix the symptom 100%, it will however make it better. Also I know when we checked your brakes the first time in, we didn’t see an issue. Brakes can squeak intermittently at times with condensation buildup on the rotors and pads.
Greg Heins
Service Manager
Jay Wolfe Toyota
9650 NW Prairie View Rd
Kansas City, MO
816-584-4561
Mr. Webb,
We have contacted Toyota about your problem and have come to the determination that the “thump” you are feeling is normal operation for that vehicle. The torque of that vehicle gets transferred out through the joints in the driveshaft as you come to a stop. This can happen instantly or take some time for it to happen. Lubricating the propeller shaft and drive shaft is the only fix, and it will not fix the symptom 100%, it will however make it better. Also I know when we checked your brakes the first time in, we didn’t see an issue. Brakes can squeak intermittently at times with condensation buildup on the rotors and pads.
Greg Heins
Service Manager
Jay Wolfe Toyota
9650 NW Prairie View Rd
Kansas City, MO
816-584-4561
BlackWorksInc
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Yeah its pretty ridiculous in my opinion. I was talking to a factory rep a while back about the issue and he told me that Toyota in japan consider that a normal characteristic of an SUV and that its normal...
The new driveshaft that you can get via the TSB for your Lexus is not even in the production line, they still use the same "defective" (I use that term loosely since the driveshafts are fine other than that noise so not really defective in function...) driveshaft and replace it only if the customer complains...
Its just one of those really odd things that Toyota does that makes no sense...
The new driveshaft that you can get via the TSB for your Lexus is not even in the production line, they still use the same "defective" (I use that term loosely since the driveshafts are fine other than that noise so not really defective in function...) driveshaft and replace it only if the customer complains...
Its just one of those really odd things that Toyota does that makes no sense...
I think this is a "MEH" moment. Some people care, others don't. It has no impact on driveability so Toyota moves on.
Every SUV I have owned did this. My 84' Runner, my 90' Runner and so on. You have all this built in expansion in the system for the 4x4 components, much like expansion joints in a bridge, that allow some give and take. Every now and then it causes a little thud. Doesn't bother me in the least. I do grease it up and it goes away for a long time. If I notice it again and I happen to have 5 minutes, I poke my head up under with my grease gun and fill it up.
I think Toyota probably doesn't simply consider it an issue. Kinda like brake squeal. Brakes Squeak. Some more than others, some not at all, but it isn't an issue of safety unless you are hearing the "screech" of the warning tab.
We all hate it, but we have all had those pads we bought that just seemed to squeak a bit more than the others. Happens. Part of life. I am glad to see that the Lexus driveline swap is one solution for those who it really irritates.
Me. I will save that money for beer.
Every SUV I have owned did this. My 84' Runner, my 90' Runner and so on. You have all this built in expansion in the system for the 4x4 components, much like expansion joints in a bridge, that allow some give and take. Every now and then it causes a little thud. Doesn't bother me in the least. I do grease it up and it goes away for a long time. If I notice it again and I happen to have 5 minutes, I poke my head up under with my grease gun and fill it up.
I think Toyota probably doesn't simply consider it an issue. Kinda like brake squeal. Brakes Squeak. Some more than others, some not at all, but it isn't an issue of safety unless you are hearing the "screech" of the warning tab.
We all hate it, but we have all had those pads we bought that just seemed to squeak a bit more than the others. Happens. Part of life. I am glad to see that the Lexus driveline swap is one solution for those who it really irritates.
Me. I will save that money for beer.
Here is a photo of both shafts.
The one on top is the shaft installed by Toyota as a possible fix to the clunk. It did not work.
Lexus has a more recent TSB that I viewed only at the dealer and based on that, I received the shaft on the bottom.
The Lexus part # is 37110-60A40.
Good luck.
The one on top is the shaft installed by Toyota as a possible fix to the clunk. It did not work.
Lexus has a more recent TSB that I viewed only at the dealer and based on that, I received the shaft on the bottom.
The Lexus part # is 37110-60A40.
Good luck.
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MICA4R
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How much did you spend on that Lexus prop shaft?
