Kudos To Toyota For Giving the V8 the Boot!
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ToyTech99
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Oh boy, now you've done it! LOL
Better get your fire-proof flame suit on right away!
Better get your fire-proof flame suit on right away!
eskimochaos
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The 2UZ-FE V8 is one of the best engines ever made - period.
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ToyTech99
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No doubt that it's a good engine. But if you look at the history of 4Runner engines, there are a bunch of them that could be considered one of the best engines ever made. Hell, even the 4.0L V6 might be considered one of the best ever made in the future. It's probably still too new to know for sure, but that doesn't mean it will not be considered one of the best ever.
Bottom line--- Toyota engines in general are probably the best engines ever made.
Agree 100%
While true in general, specifically the 2UZ has seen success in quite a range of vehicles for over 10 years now. Its not uncommon for a 2UZ to go 500K with a few timing belts and water pumps, and from UOA's (not that they mean all that much) it hardly wears at all and is extremely easy on oil. I just saw an amazing 16K mile oil run in a Sequoia, and he had oil life left! I had an 06 with the 4.0 so I consider myself experienced and unbiased wrt both engines.
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ToyTech99
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Just think of the possibilities with the 1GR-FE (4.0L V6) engine. It doesn't use a timing belt, but a timing chains. And from 2004 forward, Toyota has used 100K mile coolant, which has no silicates, which means that water pumps will not "wear out" and leak for much longer than people expect. So don't be surprised to see plenty of 1GR-FE engines going 500K miles without even needing timing belts (since they have chains) and water pumps.
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ToyTech99
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BTW, do you know what 1GR-FE stands for?
One Great F___ing Engine.
LOL:bravo:
One Great F___ing Engine.
LOL:bravo:
I'm with you on this. I never did want a V8 in my 4Runner.
Of course my car has an LS2....but eh, the novelty has long worn off.
snap315
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Exactly.
And if their V6 and smaller engines are so great, why aren't they used in Toyota's top of the line luxury SUV???
The GX470 only comes with the V8 engine in the U.S. So does the Land Cruiser.
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Small engines are fine for small vehicles and small folks. Us Americans tend to be a bit larger than you average Japanese person.
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eskimochaos
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That Sequoia has the V8 made in the US with different internals too. The one from the US that goes into the 1st gen tundra and seq. dont have any internal iron parts.
The ones from Japan are in an entirely different league. As you said they are easy on oil. Thats why after 5k on dealer oil, its still dark gold at worst.
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ToyTech99
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That's easy to answer. First, people who buy luxury SUVs are spending a lot of money and want the biggest engine offered. The luxury SUV segment is a completely different segment than our 4Runners, which Toyota's own research indicated that 80% of buyers in that segment prefer a V6. I read that in Toyota's own literature. It has nothing to do with whether or not an engine is "great", but more to do with what people expect when they purchase a $50K luxury SUV as compared to what people expect when they purchase a $35K midsize SUV.
BTW, I'm not sure if you consider the 4Runner to be a large vehicle, based upon your "small engines for small vehicles" comment. But to me the 4Runner is certainly not large in any sense. It's considered midsized, but I think it's on the smaller end of the midsize SUV segment. Does the 4Runner need a V8 engine? Absolutely not. In fact, it never had a V8 engine until the 4th gen and now it looks like the V8 has been dropped entire, probably because the majority of buyers chose the V6 instead. If I wanted to turn your logic around on you, I'd ask you this: If the V8 engine is so great, then why did Toyota drop it from the 4Runner? Of course this is a rhetorical question, meant to make you realize that the V8 engine in their luxury SUVs has nothing to do with whether an engine is "great" or not.
If you judge truck engines by peak horsepower alone, then there really isn't anything I have in common with you.
SportRunner
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Are we all forgetting how Nissan, to compete with Toyota dropped the 5.6 liter Titan/Armada engine in the Pathfinder....and you all are giving toyota sh*t for throwing a little 4.7 liter in the 4Runner, It was about time......to each there own i say, if you want a smaller engine or a bigger engine it should be your own choice.....we all have different preferences....so to the guy that buys the '10 4cyl power to ya, and the guy who buys the '10 v6 good for you, and for the people who want the '10 v8 hang in there, more than likely they'll release later on, give or take a couple years....
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ToyTech99
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The V8 Pathfinder sales were in the toilet from the beginning. That's why Nissan is dropping (or may have already dropped) their V8 in the Pathfinder too.
Edit: Okay, so I looked it up. The V8 was introduced in the Pathfinder in '08. They dropped it in '09 because of poor sales. So only one model year and no more V8 for the Pathfinder.
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borgzman
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It should drop in sales, specially if surveys were based in years 2007- 2008.
But it does not indicate that there's no demand for it( including the V8 4Runner)..They might have a newer replacement.
I wonder why KIA Borrego have the V8?
Is it a gamble? or they feel that their V8 is competent.
But it does not indicate that there's no demand for it( including the V8 4Runner)..They might have a newer replacement.
I wonder why KIA Borrego have the V8?
Is it a gamble? or they feel that their V8 is competent.
jmc8387
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Nissan didn't drop the V8 in their Pathfinder. I just got a 2010 Pathfinder brochure a couple days ago. Still lists the V8 as an option in the brochure and it is still listed on Nissan's website for the 2010 model year.
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They're made at the Tihara Lexus plant in the Aichi prefecture. Supposedly one of the best plants in the world. Can't wait to run my oil to 10-15k and see how it looks.
I've said it before I think the reason they put the V8 in the first place was - when times were good- to try and get at a luxury/hard core niche that didn't want to pony up for the GX or a Tundra.
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ToyTech99
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Wow, you're right. They still do list a V8 engine option. That's surprising because there are hundreds of websites that say the V8 was dropped in the '09 model year. Maybe Nissan had a change of heart. But either way, don't expect to see the V8 option long on the Pathfinder because nobody is buying them. It's just a matter of time before Nissan pulls the plug too.
