Lets address the "elephant"/ weight in the room!

[patkelly4370]

GVRW isn't just springs.
It's brakes, bearings, axles, etc.

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[spartacus]

A lot off good points in this thread. The moded trucks are heavy but still extremely functional the folks driving these rigs are fairly good drivers for the most part. The 4th and 5th Gen have more power so handle the weight better. I've seen 3rd gens fully armored doing awesome on some really off cambered sections and let's not forget the 2nd gens with their 3.0 out there last but not least legendary 1st gens that are lighter but handle armor and 35's off road like nobody's business.
So in conclusion if weight is the Elephant in the room then the 4runner is the Ant.

 

[Padraic]

Where's 1engineer when you need him?

 

[sn_85]

I'd be willing to bed that this Porsche is an Instagram Queen and doesn't see much more than a gravel road.

Oh you mean like most 4Runners?

 

[baldrik78]

I was checking out my buddy's RTT on his JKU and we started talking about weight. 250 lbs -- holy crap! I certainly see the benefits and why some people like RTTs, but this isn't for me. Having that much weight up top is a no-go. Plus, you need an aftermarket rack to support all that RTT weight, so it's probably closer to 300 extra pounds on top of the roof.

That must be one heck of a tent. My 3 person RTT was only like 120.

 

[ahtoxa11]

Oh you mean like most 4Runners?

Well, you aren't wrong there. :rockthrow:

 

[firegod33r]

I just had an interesting conversation with a guy at my Toyota dealership and he said that the GVWR topic came up during one of his trainings and Toyota engineers say that the GVWR is actually not conservative at all and that’s mostly because corporate uses that as a selling technique. So they want to maximize the useful load. The other interesting point they made was safety. Especially during collision involving airbags and restrain system. I would love to dig into details about the physics of it all, but I can certainly imagine a difference in a 6300 lbs roll over vs 7000. Especially when you add a couple of more variables like CG.


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[patkelly4370]

Here are the weights from the scale at work:
Front- 2,700, rear- 2,480, total- 5,160.
Variance probably from wheelbase exceeds scale by an inch.

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[Nalcyon]

Good points in this thread.

I am fortunate enough that my 4runner is not a daily driver, (I have a paid off manual transmission Honda Fit for that).

I am also fortunate enough to live with access to a little over 600 acres of heavily wooded land with many trails I maintain connected to my property so my 4runner is one of the few that can actually say it spends probably close to 70% of its time in 4wd, (time not mileage). The 4runner is only used for offroad work, vacation, and carrying things that I can't carry with the Fit, (trailer). As such I can justify the added weight but if this was a daily driver there is no way I would run this heavy. When we do go on long trips to camp on the beach or up to the trails of Colorado and Utah we definitely feel the weight. I'm patient enough to keep maximum speed under 70 and usually around 60 which can really add up on a longer trip. I also take a longer tiem to slow down and turn. This is not something I would put up with on something I drove back and forth to work everyday.