Lift Debating and will i need spacers?

[1da4]

So I've wanted a lift since the day i bought my T4R, But there are so many options I got kind of overwhelmed and had a lack of funds... (yay college) but after lots of looking around I have decided i want a mild 1.75-2" lift via OME 906's and 881's with Bilstein 5100 shocks. Seems to be a relatively inexpensive route compared to buying the full toytec boss kit or a full OME kit. I have 2 questions 1) does this seem like a good setup? anyone have this that can give opinions? 2) i have the stock 2001 limited 16" rims, will I need spacers or a bigger rim etc?
Any input or advice is welcomed. Thanks

 

[1da4]

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[MStudt]

Anything is better than a spacer lift. The only thing I can tell you is wait. You'll put on the 2" lift and wish you would have gone with the 3". I know it sucks, but that's the way it is. Spacers all depend on the tire and wheel you run. Given that you're going for about a 2" lift you will most likely be fine.

 

[1da4]

I really want a 3" but it's just not practical at the moment. Maybe after i graduate college
The main thing I need to know before I dive into this is Spacers- I guess ill do some more searching, I really hope i dont need them... If i do, I might consider just getting some tundra rims, good excuse for a 231mm upgrade anyway..

 

[BrandonF]

tundra bilstein 5100 shocks and tundra coils up front with landcruiser coils and shocks out back is always a good option. It can be pieced together for cheap and its a well-performing setup on and off road. You may get too much lift in the rear though. When I was stock weight, I was getting 4.5" of lift out of my landcruiser 7.5 wrap coils.

Keep in mind that you will want to also buy a front differential drop kit (not too expensive at all from toytec) if you are lifting the front 3". Even still, you may find that your CV boots start leaking grease after you lift it, which means you will have to reboot them or replace them altogether - just one more cost and process to deal with.

In addition, when you reach 3" of lift, you will not be able to get your alignment fully back to toyota's specs, unless you purchase after market upper control arms. These alone will cost more than you are probably willing to spend on your lift. I am not running them with my 2.75-3" of lift and its bearable. My caster is just low, so it doesnt track as nicely on the highway. You get used to it, but it's not amazing.

Also, an extended rear brake line is not mandatory, but I would recommend it as well.

Sure, there is the logic that you should just wait and save up for the bigger lift, but you have to keep in mind that the higher you lift it, the more small problems you will run into, especially in the front.

 

[1da4]

Sure, there is the logic that you should just wait and save up for the bigger lift, but you have to keep in mind that the higher you lift it, the more small problems you will run into, especially in the front.

Thanks for all the Info! I have been looking at LC 7 wraps but those seem hard to find.. and it might be a little more lift than I want anyway. Still might just stick with the OME 881's and 906's
Quick question: on this lift thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/66976-3rd-gen-4runner-lift-information-faqs.html It says 881's are about a 2.5" lift but I'm pretty sure on wheelersoffroad.com it said they give a 1.5-2" lift, can anyone confirm either of these?

If they are 2.5" then the 906's wont be enough to look normal because they are only 2", i dont want to have to drop down to 880s just because of this

 

[Brique]

[MENTION=8729]Speedy[/MENTION] did an amazing job recording his lift with tundra front coils and OME 906 rears. You might consider going this route.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/154200-speedys-lift-install-how-video.html

 

[tre9er]

If you get the 5100 Tundra Bilsteins up front you can scale your lift to wherever you want it, including swapping out springs after you've outgrown the fifth perch on stock springs (which means you start with just the cost of the struts, but can buy springs to increase lift later).

In the rear you can start out with 906s and replace them with 890 or 891s if you want another inch or so down the road. Springs aren't that expensive. Honestly, coilovers are the expensive items. Every other setup is fairly inexpensive.

 

[Fishwerks]

No experience with the lift springs in question, but why is a 3" lift impractical versus a 2" lift?

 

[1da4]

[MENTION=8729]Speedy[/MENTION] did an amazing job recording his lift with tundra front coils and OME 906 rears. You might consider going this route.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/154200-speedys-lift-install-how-video.html

This is Perfect. Thanks. I had heard of the idea but didn't know how to go about doing it and it seemed complicated because of piecing the whole thing together. However, Thanks to Speedy and his writeup /video, this it probably what i'm going with.

 

[1da4]

No experience with the lift springs in question, but why is a 3" lift impractical versus a 2" lift?

Impractical because of what BrandonF said earlier in the thread, he explains it all very well- above 2" requires diff drop, still may have leaky cv boots, throws your alignment way off without aftermarket UCA's etc. 2" is still mild and doesn't cause any of this for the most part. Also I would be tempted to buy bigger tires == worse gas mileage and tires are more expensive.

 

[Blute]

Like you, I was also considering doing the OME 881/906 lift with either the Bilstein or OME shocks. The 881/906 will likely give you a fairly level setup, but you can always add a trim packer (spacer) to the rear if it sits too low. Or if you want more lift height go to 890 springs in the rear. Plus the front will be somewhat adjustable; you will likely either want the lowest or 2nd perch on the front depending on what rear coils you end up with.

I ended up finding some good used Tundra springs locally, and bought some OME 890s through the classifieds on this forum. I then bought the Bilsteins on ebay from a seller called "hardpartsfast" and they were the best price anywhere.

Here's a link to my install: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/155518-tundra-coils-bilstein-5100-ome-lift-questions.html

In my opinion, Tundra coils cost too much new, but are a great option if you can find some decent used ones. You can shop around for a good price on OME coils; don't forget to check Amazon, and browse the classifieds here at the forum.

 

[piecesparts]

[MENTION=8729]Speedy[/MENTION] did an amazing job recording his lift with tundra front coils and OME 906 rears. You might consider going this route.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/154200-speedys-lift-install-how-video.html

Just completed my 2" lift with the same setup that Speedy used. I put the front struts together with new parts and had them ready to install before I took the old ones off. It took us two hours to install everything and then another hur to do the alignment. The ride is greatly imporved and the handling is still good.

Be sure to search around as Speedy pointed out for the Tundra coil prices can be different. I found the prices on Toyota parts direct and then communicated that to my local dealer, they matched the prices. The rest of the parts came from Wheelers, hey beat many others out on prices for the Bilsteins.