Lift installed. Can someone look over my alignment sheet.

[Presa Canario]

I just had the lift installed on my 2016 SR5. Bilstien 6112's in the front on the highest setting. Icon 2.0 shocks in the rear with Wheeler T13 coils. Factory Trail wheels with 255/75/17 Duratracs. The vehicle drove absolutely perfect before the lift (with the duratracts installed/no lift). Now, after the install not so much. It has a slight pull to the right going down the highway. Also, once it gets up to 55-60 mph the steering wheel shakes/vibrates back and forth (right & left). Also, the steering seems way overly sensitive to where to will not drive/track down the road easily. It requires constant side to side correction. Here is a copy of the alignment sheet they gave me. I don't have a lot of faith this shop that did the work. Could someone give me some advice on what might be wrong.
Thanks.

 

[Angelo]

I just had the lift installed on my 2016 SR5. Could someone give me some advice on what might be wrong.
Thanks.

Sounds like a pretty decent lift height, are you running aftermarket UCAs? The general wisdom around here is that you'll need them in order to get alignment in spec above a 2" lift. Once you have UCAs, you'll want as much caster as they can provide while keeping camber and toe in spec. Looking at your "current measurements", the caster is out of spec on both sides with what I'm guessing are your OEM / stock UCAs. I've seen numbers around here anywhere from 3-4.5 of caster depending on the individual lift, truck, etc, with aftermarket arms.

The only real way to see if you're getting d!cked around would be to take it to a shop that you trust and have them look at the alignment, but again it does sound like you need UCAs if you're not already running them. It doesn't look like your shop necessarily screwed you over as much as they just tried to align it as best they could and didn't know or didn't advise you about your need for new upper arms with that tall of a lift. Good luck.

 

[Presa Canario]

I appreciate the reply. Yes, I am running stock UCA's. I was going to see if I could get by without them first. I've seen numerous people on here that were able to get alignment within spec with the same lift I have now. I also realize that each vehicle is different and you can't expect the same results as someone else. I was hoping the 2.5 on the Caster would be enough to get decent driveability of it.

 

[uplusd]

I have 1.7 and 2.0 caster with stock UCAs and my car seems to drive fine

 

[Presa Canario]

I have 1.7 and 2.0 caster with stock UCAs and my car seems to drive fine

Exactly......it seems like they are all different from one 4runner to the next. I will admit I am very picky/critical. I've drove lifted F250's with huge tires for the last 12 years. I am sick of it and I loved the way the stock 4Runner drove/handled. Losing that was my biggest fear. Everyone talks about how much better these aftermarket lifts/shocks/struts drive over stock and in my experience with the last 7 lifted vehicles I've owned, that's never been true. I guess it's just a trade off.....the comfort of the ride or the added height/clearance.

 

[TEujunga]

I just had my post-lift alignment done on Wednesday, and your numbers look better than what my alignment tech was able to obtain, and yet I'm not noticing any vibration or tendency to wander in my T4R. It's noticeably stiffer from the new springs/shocks and revised geometry, but that's about it so far.

Some of it may be perceptual. Seems like the lift on its own shouldn't cause a pull or a vibration in any case.

 

[MyanRagahis]

I'm dealing with the same stuff you're having minus the vibrations. At first I thought my alignment done in March was awesome after my lift. Not sure if it's in my head, hit a hard bump maybe, crowns in the road, windy, or what, but some days I'm having to make a lot of side to side corrections, and some days it'll drive fine.
Next year I'll probably just get UCA. Maybe the JBAs

Here's mine for reference

 

[Presa Canario]

I'm dealing with the same stuff you're having minus the vibrations. At first I thought my alignment done in March was awesome after my lift. Not sure if it's in my head, hit a hard bump maybe, crowns in the road, windy, or what, but some days I'm having to make a lot of side to side corrections, and some days it'll drive fine.
Next year I'll probably just get UCA. Maybe the JBAs

Here's mine for reference
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I will say that I've never owned a vehicle before that was affected by the wind so much as the 4Runner. Now, keep in mind my last 7 daily drivers have been 3/4 ton F250's. In the 4Runner, even a 8-10 mph cross wind really pushes it around when going down the highway. I wish I could have seen what my alignment specs were before they installed the lift.

 

[MyanRagahis]

I will say that I've never owned a vehicle before that was affected by the wind so much as the 4Runner. Now, keep in mind my last 7 daily drivers have been 3/4 ton F250's. In the 4Runner, even a 8-10 mph cross wind really pushes it around when going down the highway. I wish I could have seen what my alignment specs were before they installed the lift.

Lol, right? I still enjoy the vehicle but never had to battle the wind so much with my 98 Explorer or 2nd Gen Tacoma at the time.
I notice it a lot when passing by 18 wheelers also.

 

[gm350reratliff]

Sounds like a pretty decent lift height, are you running aftermarket UCAs? The general wisdom around here is that you'll need them in order to get alignment in spec above a 2" lift. Once you have UCAs, you'll want as much caster as they can provide while keeping camber and toe in spec. Looking at your "current measurements", the caster is out of spec on both sides with what I'm guessing are your OEM / stock UCAs. I've seen numbers around here anywhere from 3-4.5 of caster depending on the individual lift, truck, etc, with aftermarket arms.

The only real way to see if you're getting d!cked around would be to take it to a shop that you trust and have them look at the alignment, but again it does sound like you need UCAs if you're not already running them. It doesn't look like your shop necessarily screwed you over as much as they just tried to align it as best they could and didn't know or didn't advise you about your need for new upper arms with that tall of a lift. Good luck.

I agree with this.

I would install some aftermarket UCAs of your choice and get it re-aligned. You will want to do that anyway because the new springs with the 6112's will settle some which will change all those angles. It is true that all these Toyotas seem to be a little different from one to the other in terms of how they drive when lifted. My 4th gen needs high caster to feel somewhat stable on the highway. I run the Camburg balljoint UCAs on my 5th gen which only netted me 2.5 degrees but it drives absolutely perfect and is super stable everywhere.