lift/leveling kit

slowteg97 said:
yea cj i can do that for you and the ride is still the same no change.

falls not to jump all over your shit but gig did say he has a 1in spacer. and if you look at his measurements compared to my starting measurements you will see the spacer gave him 1in of lift and the remaining hieght gained was from his tires and since i used a 2in top spacer and gained exactly 2in of lift in the front i feel its safe to say that when using top mount spacers the size you use is the amount gained. so far its been proven twice.
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Thats incorrect, a spacer on this type of suspension will add more lift than the actual spacer height. Argue all you want about this, but this is just how the dynamics of the suspension works, its not a 1:1 thing.

I cannot count how many guys can testify to this, including myself.
 
Falls said:
slowteg97 said:
idk gig's 1in soacer really only gave him 1in of lift the rest is made up by his tires they are giving him the other 1/2 in on lift. [/QUOTE

Thats incorrect. He has a Toytec spacer which is a 1/2 inch spacer which yields 1" of lift. You are correct about the tires having an add'l 1/2 , but really has noting to do with spacer issues/lift were talking about .
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BlairB said:
Thats incorrect, a spacer on this type of suspension will add more lift than the actual spacer height. Argue all you want about this, but this is just how the dynamics of the suspension works, its not a 1:1 thing.

I cannot count how many guys can testify to this, including myself.
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Mike and Blair are correct. Spacers yield closer to a 2:1 ratio of lift. Can I ask that you show the "proof" that you have seen twice?

Not to "jump all over your shit" of course. :bash: :lmao:

slowteg97 said:
falls not to jump all over your shit...
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oh and hb my proof is in the pics gig used a 1inch top spacer and got 1in of lift plus alittle extra with his tires, and i used a 2 inch spacer and got 2in of lift in the front read the entire post and look at the pics next time thanks
 
slowteg97 said:
oh and hb my proof is in the pics gig used a 1inch top spacer and got 1in of lift plus alittle extra with his tires, and i used a 2 inch spacer and got 2in of lift in the front read the entire post and look at the pics next time thanks
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I was being sarcastic in case you didn't pick that up. You are incorrect. Spacers yield 1.5:1 to 2:1 ratio of lift in front components. If you take your own advice, and read through the entire thread you will see this information posted by reputable members multiple times.
 
slowteg97 said:
oh and hb my proof is in the pics gig used a 1inch top spacer and got 1in of lift plus alittle extra with his tires, and i used a 2 inch spacer and got 2in of lift in the front read the entire post and look at the pics next time thanks
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Toytec spacers give more lift than just the height of the spacer, they name their spacers based upon the amount of lift they give, rather than the actual spacer height. Their 1 inch spacer, is not in actuality 1 inch tall, it just yields that amount of lift. I would guess that is what Gig has.

For your case, I would guess that some sort of mismeasurement would be a lot more likely than your lift somehow defying the same physics countless others suspensions
 
I am trying to look for a diagram I have seen before that shows you how what you are saying is IMPOSSIBLE, but have yet to find it.

Once I do, you will finally believe everything all these people have been saying.
 
BlairB said:
Toytec spacers give more lift than just the height of the spacer, they name their spacers based upon the amount of lift they give, rather than the actual spacer height. Their 1 inch spacer, is not in actuality 1 inch tall, it just yields that amount of lift. I would guess that is what Gig has.

For your case, I would guess that some sort of mismeasurement would be a lot more likely than your lift somehow defying the same physics countless others suspensions
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Correct , just like the Cornfed , Daystars lifts also are stated by how much they lift NOT the spacer size.
 
ok taking a better look at gigs lift its not like mine at all its not a top spacer its the type where you disassemble the strut and is added in which explains why his 1/2 in spacer gave him 1 in of lift that i understand which ive been tryin to say. his type of lift will do that because you will gain a 1/2 in of lift plus with the added spring tension from the spacer i understand why he will get the 1in of lift out of the 1in spacer. i have the type oif lift where you just bolt it to the top of the hat and thats what ive been tryin to say that with that type of lift you will get the amount of lift out of the size you purchased being a 1:1. the lift i have is completely different from his.
 
Gigs spacer looks like it is in the exact same place as yours. Also you say you front end is nearly at 35 1/2 but the pic with the ruler looks like it is not even at 35 1/4. So if you are off 1/4 there and possibly 1/4 when you took the before measurements combined with the fact that one side is always higher than the other and you dont provide measurements for both sides, means we are all thinking operator measuring error and not a 1:1 ratio unique to your 1sourcemfg fusionlift spacers.
 
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I feel that regardless of what everyone else says, this guy won't admit his fault and will keep on thinking he is somehow defying the actual dynamics of how the suspension works.

Topout, preload, whatever type- they will always result in more lift than the height of the spacer with the 4runners type of suspension.
 
Rather than saying "it does this..." can you just show us proof that what you are telling us is correct? We don't want to hear what you "think" based off of "personal experiences." Will you simply show us proof that what we believe is incorrect?
 
HB 4X4,
In you sig is Cornfed 2/1 and 3/2..you had spacer lift b4 the SAW? and is the SAW the same as the Race Runner Coilover?
and they are are avail in 2.0 and 2.5?:)
 
borgzman said:
HB 4X4,
In you sig is Cornfed 2/1 and 3/2..you had spacer lift b4 the SAW? and is the SAW the same as the Race Runner Coilover?
and they are are avail in 2.0 and 2.5?:)
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I think I can answer your questions for him, he did have spacers before and decided pretty quickly a full coilover setup was the better way to go.

His SAW's are the Race Runner and they do come in both 2.0 and 2.5

Here is SAW's Toyota subpage
 
borgzman said:
HB 4X4,
In you sig is Cornfed 2/1 and 3/2..you had spacer lift b4 the SAW? and is the SAW the same as the Race Runner Coilover?
and they are are avail in 2.0 and 2.5?:)
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Yep. And everything Blair stated is correct. He knows everything I have done to my truck, and why I did it.
 
gigs lift look like a pre load spacer because it look as if it is sitting top of the spring and then the hat is bolted down on top of it, where mine just bolt directly to the hat. i have no problem agreeing with the fact that you will gain lift out of a preload spacer which makes all the sense in the world but to say your gonna get more lift out of a top mount spacer is just plain silly simply because it doesnt place any added tension to the suspension like a preload spacer would it just simply is bolt to the hat which pushes the the whole strut down the amount of inches places in. to simplify this for you it works like a wheel spacer would where the wheel spacer bolts to the hub and spacer the wheel out this is basicly doing the samething it bolts to the hat and spaces the strut down. i dont understand whats so hard about that i proved it through pics and everything i used a 2in top spacer and gain 2 in of lift you can see it in the measurements and in just the photo the truck sits damn near perfect.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

this link is an example of how seller even describe these leveling kits if your buying a 2inch spacer you'll get 2in of lift. seriously guys im not tryin to say i dont understand and that your completely wrong cause your not your right about preload spacers but as for the style lift i have what your saying is wrong.
 

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