McCain announces running mate on 72nd birthday

[CJ3Flyr]

I really doubt either one has anything to do with the other.

I pray for the people in it's path.

:iagree: with the 2nd part... On the first are you sure Karl Rove isn't steering Gustov to displace a group of Democratic voters? :lmao: New Orleans is traditionally a 'blue' country. And yes, I believe New Orleans is a country. I have travelled in South America and had it feel more like home than New Orleans

 

[Falls]

I just want a break from the Republicans and vote for some intelligance in the white house and reduce some of the cronyism that exists in the republican party and still does today.

I'm not a Democrat and I vote for what I perceive as the best guy to run our country and not blindly like alot of Rep and Dems do.

Obama is a smart guy (he's got 180 IQ) and I don't think do anything that's detrimental to this country (unlike the Reps have done for 8 years) over the next 4 years but McCain is too much in line with Bush style economics and ideals and that bothers me.

I agree and have no issue with any party , but the democratic party has nothing to offer. Obama may have a high IQ ( which means nothing ) and his complete career in politics is 140 days served in senate . That kinda scares me .

 

[Jeff Kleb]

I remember years back when there was a debate between Reagan and Mondale (I think it was Mondale) and Mondale asked about his age (Reagan) being a drawback in the presidency and Reagan came back and said not unless your youth and inexperience is .

It was the best line in politics I have ever seen or heard. It shut Mondale down in his tracks . He was literally speechless .

I'm really dating myself with that , but I love this political stuff .

Reagan was asked by a news reporter if "age" was an issue in the 1984 campaign. His response was that he would not hold the 'youth and inexperience' of his opponent (Mondale) against him.

Definitely classic!

If you think that is good, though, a different reporter had questioned Reagan about being partially responsible for the growth of government. Without missing a beat, Ronnie replied, "Well, of course I am. I was a Democrat for almost 40 years."

:biggrin2: :bigok:

 

[Jeff Kleb]

The fiscal responsibility aspect of the Presidency is a sham. The President has little to do with it; especially presidents as weak as both Bush's and Clinton (weak in terms of congressional favor. Reagan had the power of persuasive ability and the will/focus to move the political tide his way.) There are the Presidents' fingerprints on the deficit but it's far more about a conglomeration of world events, Congressional leadership and the balance of power in Congress.

The President can't sign a check for anything, that's all I'm saying.

And yes, she's hot Actually she's one of those "sum of the parts exceeds..."

:cheers:

+1 to the reminder about CONGRESS being more responsible for deficits than the President. It must also be said that deficits are caused by irresponsible spending - not by tax cuts.

Under JFK, Reagan and even G.W. Bush, actual revenues to the US Treasury increased significantly when marginal tax rates were lowered (tax cuts). The deficits that are often "blamed" on tax cuts resulted because of spending increases by Congress (under either party's hegemony) that far exceeded the amount of additional revenue. Annual revenues nearly doubled during Reagan's two terms, but spending practically tripled.
:bash:

The decline of the deficit during the Clinton years resulted because of at least some discipline on spending (but certainly not enough) by Congress - in addition to the Internet boom in the economy. Furthermore, Clinton had sold off some long-term bonds (debt) by refinancing at lower rates, but shorter term. Definitely a gamble that we are likely paying for now.

Those who take George W. Bush to task for "deficit spending" are only being halfway honest about it. Those people - mostly on the left - would run up deficits for ten generations as long as it would keep them in power.

Sure, it is nice to criticize "war spending" and question our purpose for being in foreign conflicts, but do people like Henry Waxman, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Charles Schumer, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton (and scores of others like them) honestly care about reining in wasteful domestic spending? I very seriously doubt it. Just watch how much they'll squirm if the topic of a balanced budget ever comes up.

 

[Thai]

Obama is a smart guy (he's got 180 IQ)

It only makes him more of a weasel!

 

[Uneek]

The fiscal responsibility aspect of the Presidency is a sham.

I say for most Presidents true, as well as little effects on the economy. The Chairman on Federal Reserve can impact the economy to a far greater extent. But for "W" pouring more money into the war with no end in sight lies squarely on his shoulders that we have a huge deficit.

 

[Falls]

It only makes him more of a weasel!

lol... so true. He is a sneaky one !!

 

[alaskaman]

Palin's teenager pregnant. 17 yrs old. The conservative right wing who fell in love with McCains Babe just hit concrete......

face first.....:bash:

 

[RonMAIDEN]

This one hurts the family values push.

 

[alaskaman]

Palin calls a lawyer on the 4th day. To protect her against assertions that she used her office as Governor attempting to influence an investigation of a member of her family.

You couldn't write this stuff.........

:happy bda John

 

[Falls]

Palin calls a lawyer on the 4th day. To protect her against assertions that she used her office as Governor attempting to influence an investigation of a member of her family.

You couldn't write this stuff.........

:happy bda John

Its always the game you play in the limelight. I personally don't think ( as of now ) any of this will have any impact.

 

[Thai]

Sadly, Palin's daughter pregnancy is just a reflection of today's society. I love how Palin and her husband are "proud" of her daughter's pregnancy and that the daugher is going to marry her boyfriend soon. Having a kid out of wedlock is apparently the "right" thing to do these days....

 

[alaskaman]

Two Timing Trailer Talkin'

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3125537020080901

 

[Thai]

But then again, Obama talks too much and promises too damn much...and many of his promises are contradictory! He reminds me too much of Clinton.

There is just not a good candidate to vote for these days....

 

[Kmvreter]

But then again, Obama talks too much and promises too damn much...and many of his promises are contradictory! He reminds me too much of Clinton.

There is just not a good candidate to vote for these days....

I was going to comment on your presidential race until you said this. At least your race has twists and turns.
We have a potential snap federal election in the works in Canada because the current Prime Minister is childish and can't play ball with the opposition in a minority government situation. Talk about candidates lacking.
We have the choice between the equivalent of 2 wet socks (one for the left, the other for the right) and a condom (for the middle.)

 

[RonMAIDEN]

But then again, Obama talks too much and promises too damn much...and many of his promises are contradictory! He reminds me too much of Clinton.

Clinton wasn't too bad and the '90s was a pretty good time;McCain reminds me of Bush and even brags that he voted the same as Bush 90% of the time.
McCain is just as contridictory too and yes,it is voting for the lesser of two evils but I think I'll be voting for the Dems this time around.

Also how hasty was the nomination of Palin? I've read that about 3 days earlier McCain was considering Joe Leiberman and how much vetting did the McCain camp do on Palin befoe making this decision?

Here's the latest from the MSN page
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26501863/?GT1=43001

 

[TheBlueWave]

There is just not a good candidate to vote for these days....

There wasn't last time around, either, or the time before that!

I'm a young person, so I can't speak in great lengths like Jeff and Falls (sorry to call you out, old dudes) about the state of American politics. I don't like the government messing with my business, so I tend to sway Republican.

But this last administration spent spent spent, and even though it may have been necessary, invaded the privacy of American citizens. Bush's reign was one of radicalism and ass kisisng. But, at least those who contributed to his election fund got paid, huge.

And I agree with Falls, the Democrats don't have much to offer. They talk of change, but are things really that bad? I have a 4runner, and will watch the Twins tonight on a 40" HDTV, right after I have one of many high quality choices for dinner in my affordable yet nice air conditioned single family home. And all this was made possible by the state and federal governments that provided grants and affordable loans for me, a poor kid, to go to college.

My dad, who is older than both Jeff and Falls, claims the only presidents that saved him any money and gave him a feeling of increasing prosperity, were Clinton and Reagen.

Sheesh, I may not even vote this year, and how sad is that, when a young man loses all faith in our politicians lobbying for the highest position of leadership in the world simply because they can't run by standard party lines, or (gasp!) run under a new third party this country is craving!

 

[Thai]

Sheesh, I may not even vote this year, and how sad is that, when a young man loses all faith in our politicians lobbying for the highest position of leadership in the world simply because they can't run by standard party lines, or (gasp!) run under a new third party this country is craving!

x2. In the end, whether you or me vote or not, we still lose because the current candidates don't have much to offer. In the end, i will probably go with McCain because i "think" that he will protect this country better.

At least with some past presidents, you know where they stand on most issues. The last few elections consists of people who just talk about peace on earth and how everyone will be rich and blah blah.

But, i am happy TODAY...oil prices drop $6!! Woohoo, there is life for my G-wagen after all!! I can actually take my G-wagen around the block!

 

[Thai]

Clinton wasn't too bad and the '90s was a pretty good time;

How much of that "good time" was because of Clinton actual policies?? I have read contradictory stories/explanations of those years. Hell, i am sure that HE was having a good time in the Oral Office!:upset: :cursin:

 

[Thai]

and even though it may have been necessary, invaded the privacy of American citizens.

I don't personally care about this part because i have nothing to hide from the government. Whatever it takes to allow my family and I to sleep at night is a good thing in my book. Peace of mind when i go to sleep at night is worth it's weight in gold.