My Daystar lift and Spidertrax wheel spacer experience.

[G.I.G.]

The farther you push out your wheels the more strain there will be on wheel bearings and such , they get hotter and can burn out quite easily.

I do love the looks of them but will not run spacers for safety reasons . Just my opinion , PLUS 99% of tire shops will not change / rotate your tires for liability and safety reasons .

I went to a friends frame an axle shop about my lift install , they are slow , I can use the facility and they will do it with my help , so I can learn. I've never been one to drop off and pick up. I've know these guys for 30 years and they have always been in the frame and axle business. They also said I can put the spacers on myself and bring it back for alignment . They don't want to be responsible for putting them on.



I chose to run FJ rims for the time being. I know they will not push out as far as a 1.25-1.5 spacer will but it will widen the stance I think about a 1/2" or something on each side. Not sure how much exactly so if someone could through a number at me that would be great. I do like the sport rims better , but ??? FJ's don't look to bad. I basically got 5 new rims/take off's with caps delivered to my door for $70 each ($350.00).

Those are valid points, Falls. I actually just got off the phone with Ross at Spidertrax asking him the same questions. He agreed that wheel spacers and off-set or wider wheels will put more strain on the wheel bearings, but he said over the life of a set of wheel bearings, that you might go through them a few thousand miles sooner than if you were not running spacers or greater off-set wheels. I might start another thread specifically regarding the long-term effects of wheel spacers for those who have been running them for a few years or longer.

 

[J.A.]

I chose to run FJ rims for the time being. I know they will not push out as far as a 1.25-1.5 spacer will but it will widen the stance I think about a 1/2" or something on each side. Not sure how much exactly so if someone could through a number at me that would be great.

6/10's of an inch further out, slightly less than half the spidertrax.

 

[J.A.]

JA , your kit is still on the DS website , so they must be using the same part number for the new and older kit.

The new style topout only kit is indeed re-using the old part #KT09115BK. This is the part number for front and rear spacers sold as a kit. The front end only new style part is #KT09115BK. This should provide 2.5" of lift as opposed to the old style two part system which actually gave 3.0".

 

[J.A.]

I chose to run FJ rims for the time being. I know they will not push out as far as a 1.25-1.5 spacer will but it will widen the stance I think about a 1/2" or something on each side. Not sure how much exactly so if someone could through a number at me that would be great.

6/10's of an inch further out, slightly less than half the spidertrax.

This will help you to visualize the differences.

Factory Wheels (30mm Offset)


FJ or 09 Trail Edition Wheels (15mm Offset)


Spidertrax (31.75mm or 1.25" wheel spacers on 30mm offset factory wheels) :biggrin2:

 

[gaberelli]

huge help

JA's post puts together something that I have always wanted to see. I have some FJ wheels on the way because I wanted to go from 18" to 17" and thought I may as well go with some with less offset. Those pictures really help visualize the difference.

 

[Okie]

do you have xreas?

If you are referring to me, then yes. I believe all Sport Editions have XREAS.

 

[Falls]

Thank you JA . You are the man !!

I gave a guy at the gas station (who also has a 3 & 4th gen) your website addy to check it out.

 

[darkie3495]

Your ride does look a lot like mine, including the Yakima Fat Cat 6 rack. thanks for posting these pics. Do you happen to have any pics looking straight on from the front or rear?

here you go...

 

[G.I.G.]

here you go...

Awesome, thanks!

I'm definitely sold on the look. Darkie (or anyone else running spacers), do you have any issues getting your tires balanced and rotated? What Falls mentioned seems to be true and some shops won't touch your car with a 10-ft. pole if you are running wheel spacers. Has that been your experience?

 

[Falls]

The new style topout only kit is indeed re-using the old part #KT09115BK. This is the part number for front and rear spacers sold as a kit. The front end only new style part is #KT09115BK. This should provide 2.5" of lift as opposed to the old style two part system which actually gave 3.0".

The front only kit part no. is KT09115BK

 

[Okie]

The front only kit part no. is KT09115BK

The part numbers must have changed. I just took a look at my receipt, and it shows I bought the kit - KT09115BK. This included the new top only front AND the rear spacers which is exactly what I asked for. 4 Wheel Parts also show different prices than what they did when I ordered. They where charging the same for the rear only kit as they were the front only kit which was $129.99, if I recall correctly. The front AND rear kit was priced an extra $30.00 at that time, so I got the front and rear kit which put the price at $160.00. Looks like they have adjusted their prices to make more sense.

 

[J.A.]

The new style topout only kit is indeed re-using the old part #KT09115BK. This is the part number for front and rear spacers sold as a kit. The front end only new style part is #KT09115BK. This should provide 2.5" of lift as opposed to the old style two part system which actually gave 3.0".

Sorry, one cannot edit after 15 minutes anymore, this should have said " The front end only new style part is #KT09116BK."

 

[Okie]

Sorry, one cannot edit after 15 minutes anymore, this should have said " The front end only new style part is #KT09116BK."

Tell me about it, that is why my 1st and original post still has the wrong part number listed.....

 

[Falls]

Sorry about the confusion guys , the DS site is confusing.

 

[Pirate VI]

Awesome, thanks!

I'm definitely sold on the look. Darkie (or anyone else running spacers), do you have any issues getting your tires balanced and rotated? What Falls mentioned seems to be true and some shops won't touch your car with a 10-ft. pole if you are running wheel spacers. Has that been your experience?

I havent had anyone say anything about my spacers, and I have had my tires rotated, or balanced at the Toyota dealership, Tire Kingdom, Walmart, and Costco. No mention of the spacers.

 

[G.I.G.]

I havent had anyone say anything about my spacers, and I have had my tires rotated, or balanced at the Toyota dealership, Tire Kingdom, Walmart, and Costco. No mention of the spacers.

Good to know. How long have you been running your spacers? Any issues with them?

 

[Pirate VI]

Good to know. How long have you been running your spacers? Any issues with them?

I have been running spacers for about two years. I havent had any issues except for about a month ago when I put new tires on i started getting vibrations, I dont think it is the spacers, but we tried to tighten them to make sure, and when putting the wheels back on, a friend who was helping me (who is a big guy) broke one of the lug studs. I called Spidertrax, and ordered more for 1.99 ea.

 

[Vizwar]

I have been running spacers for about two years. I havent had any issues except for about a month ago when I put new tires on i started getting vibrations, I dont think it is the spacers, but we tried to tighten them to make sure, and when putting the wheels back on, a friend who was helping me (who is a big guy) broke one of the lug studs. I called Spidertrax, and ordered more for 1.99 ea.

Vibration with tires is probably a balance issue and not the SpiderTrax. Did it only happen at higher speeds?

 

[Pirate VI]

Vibration with tires is probably a balance issue and not the SpiderTrax. Did it only happen at higher speeds?

I agree, I have had them balanced 3 times now though, they vibrate between about 45 and 60, mostly around 55 which I hear is the spot for vibrations from unbalanced tires. I should start a thread asking for suggestions, also had the alignment done, and then rechecked when that did nothing either.
I had the spacers on before I put the tires on and there was no vibrations then either, so I doubt it has to do with the spacers.

 

[Vizwar]

I agree, I have had them balanced 3 times now though, they vibrate between about 45 and 60, mostly around 55 which I hear is the spot for vibrations from unbalanced tires. I should start a thread asking for suggestions, also had the alignment done, and then rechecked when that did nothing either.
I had the spacers on before I put the tires on and there was no vibrations then either, so I doubt it has to do with the spacers.

If the shop that did the alignment has another store you can visit you should try that. The warranty on the alignment should be honored at any store in the company. Goodyear did mine once and on the alignment report it listed my truck as a much older model year that it actually was so it was aligned to the wrong specs.

Another store, another alignment machine, another tech. If the problem still occurs then get them to talk to you about checking the new tires for defects. Maybe just do that out right...before you get too many miles on the new tires.