New TRD Pro - Need mild lift options

[st8rocks]

derail/
Hey st8rocks...Tnx for the trail report! Would you say Brown Mt. (Trail 1) would be passable without sliders, by a reasonably competent driver (read military off-road experience)? I'm not incredibly keen on the idea of wheeling without them, but from the vids I have seen, it looks like trail 1 is not much more than a gravel road with some mild ruts and a few small rocks.
/derail

Yes passable without sliders. I read a bunch of trail reports before I went, all seemed to make it out to be quite easy. Its more than a gravel road that is for sure... I kept it in 4 low to keep things kosher. I could have done it blindfolded in my FJ80 but since I was in my 40k truck with 3000 miles I was much more cautious. There were plenty of times where I felt more comfortable with my friend driving and me spotting her. The elevation makes it fun and coming down is always a clincher.

I did not make it to the top, the last climb was a red clay hill so I did not trust my stock H/Ts from keeping me straight and not to slam the sides of the truck. There is another way too the top but we were maxed out for the day so did not look for it.

Pin stripping was minimal, everything waxed out. The bumps on the skids could have been avoided with better lines. We were out there for a solid 3-4 hours so make a day out of it.

I saw 2 new Jeeps and about 50 atvs and bikes so there is some traffic out there. Everyone was friendly. I did get a little worried when bikes flew by kicking up rocks. Facilities are decent. A handful of good looking campsites and the vaulted shitters were clean and stocked with TP.

 

[CplTurner]

Yes passable without sliders. I read a bunch of trail reports before I went, all seemed to make it out to be quite easy. Its more than a gravel road that is for sure... I kept it in 4 low to keep things kosher. I could have done it blindfolded in my FJ80 but since I was in my 40k truck with 3000 miles I was much more cautious. There were plenty of times where I felt more comfortable with my friend driving and me spotting her. The elevation makes it fun and coming down is always a clincher.

I did not make it too the top, the last climb was a red clay hill so I did not trust my stock H/Ts from keeping me straight and not to slam the sides of the truck. There is another way too the top but we were maxed out for the day so did not look for it.

Pin stripping was minimal, everything waxed out. The bumps on the skids could have been avoided with better lines. We were out there for a solid 3-4 hours so make a day out of it.

I saw 2 new Jeeps and about 50 atvs and bikes so there is some traffic out there. Everyone was friendly. I did get a little worried when bikes flew by kicking up rocks. Facilities are decent. A handful of good looking campsites and the vaulted shitters were clean and stocked with TP.

Wow st8rocks, I couldn't ask for a better trail report than that..Thank you for taking the time to answer my question in such detail! I feel more confident about taking a new vehicle out there now.
Did I mention this forum is AWESOME :happy:
I will be sure to get some pix as long as the traffic allows.

 

[st8rocks]

Rooooarr!!!!

 

[CplTurner]

rooooarr!!!!

 

[Saker]

Investigate whether or not your front bilsteins can be adjusted up another notch. There is reason to believe, from other threads on this forum and a post above, that this may be possible...

The only way to know for certain is for someone to actually look at the coilovers with an inspection mirror to see if there are 2 or 3 rings seat settings or someone at the port to rotate those shocks, take a photo to put this issue to rest and then we'll all know for certain!


Also take a photo because -> :worthless

 

[CplTurner]

The only way to know for certain is for someone to actually look at the coilovers with an inspection mirror to see if there are 2 or 3 rings seat settings or someone at the port to rotate those shocks, take a photo to put this issue to rest and then we'll all know for certain!


Also take a photo because -> :worthless

I will do my best to get some detail photos of the front strut assembly in the next day or two...I'm pretty sure I have a mirror. If not, good excuse for a trip to Hazard Fraught.

 

[CplTurner]

Shameless pic of the rig in question....

 

[470SNC]

shes a beaut

 

[LandCruiser]

The only way to know for certain is for someone to actually look at the coilovers with an inspection mirror to see if there are 2 or 3 rings seat settings or someone at the port to rotate those shocks, take a photo to put this issue to rest and then we'll all know for certain!


Also take a photo because -> :worthless

I tried to do that and the dealership staff told me to get away from the vehicle

 

[NW4R]

I wanted a TRD pro real bad. Dealer said I couldn't have one unless I wanted to wait 8 weeks to special a order a 2016 for 1K down. So I settled for a 2015 trail and threw down a stage 3 Icon which is in route. I bent over for the black TRD Pro wheels because I wasn't happy with other aftermarket options. In retrospect I am very glad I went this route. I wouldn't be happy with the stock TRD pro setup (not that its not bad ass), and I would be the chump that wasted money upgrading. My new child...

 

[tschuckers]

2016 TRD Suspension Options

After reading this thread, it seems as though the debate remains as to whether the TRD Pro coilovers are adjustable or not. I have recently purchased a 2016 TRD and would like to put a Southern Style Speed Bumper + Winch on the front. However, I am concerned that the approximately 120 lbs of added weight will cause an excess sag as the TRD front is already lower than the rear. If the coilovers cannot be raised, what other options do I have in order to offset the added weight of the bumper + winch? I have heard about adding a leveling spacer above the coilover, but then I have also seen people say that this is NOT a good idea due to added stress. Would it then be easiest to add different springs and remove the TRD to sell and offset the cost? Thanks for any input!

 

[krinkle]

After reading this thread, it seems as though the debate remains as to whether the TRD Pro coilovers are adjustable or not. I have recently purchased a 2016 TRD and would like to put a Southern Style Speed Bumper + Winch on the front. However, I am concerned that the approximately 120 lbs of added weight will cause an excess sag as the TRD front is already lower than the rear. If the coilovers cannot be raised, what other options do I have in order to offset the added weight of the bumper + winch? I have heard about adding a leveling spacer above the coilover, but then I have also seen people say that this is NOT a good idea due to added stress. Would it then be easiest to add different springs and remove the TRD to sell and offset the cost? Thanks for any input!

I don't think there is any question as to what the front suspension is. There are 2 height settings and most ship with the driver on the lower and the passenger on the upper to even the 'lean' out.

If you want to raise the the front to comp for weight look at the different Toytec spacers that are available. They sell a TRD Pro specific 2 inch lift kit for $400 which is spacers up front and springs in the rear. The front spacers are available individually go form 1/4" to an 1". Some go on the top hat some replace the spring perch. Talk to the folks at Toytec they will set you up. I have no affiliation but have researched this on my own a little.

If I were you I would measure from front height left and right. Install your bumper/winch etch, re-measure. By spacers to compensate. Go out and get the thing dirty.

 

[mtrtrdp]

So the question is remains. Can you move the bottom Mount on the Trd pro front shocks?

 

[pauldavis]

I tried to do that and the dealership staff told me to get away from the vehicle

Were you wearing goggles and a helmet like your avatar? Maybe they thought your the kind of guy that breaks stuff?

 

[CplTurner]

So the question is remains. Can you move the bottom Mount on the Trd pro front shocks?

Negative

 

[Loadedpocketz]

The guys who really truly overland adventure try not to lift it much, if any. Any lift will not improve static ground clearance. Bigger tires will do that and a lift will only improve approach/departure angles a bit. Now, if your "adventures" are built around going to malls then by all means, put a spacer lift on. Off road? No. I have a link in my signature that could help you learn about modifying for overlanding.

I know this was a while ago, but can you share the link in question? I can't see your sig in Tapatalk. Thanks in advance!

 

[mtrtrdp]

Ok so I have a question. I have a 2016 Trd pro, I am having a problem with the shocks making a knocking noise heard most when cold but can hear when warm as well. I have taken it to the dealer numerous times and they have replaced the shocks in the front. I love how it rides on and off road now. I don't want loose that ride. I am not used to having "performance" shocks like this on a vehicle. Is this par for the type of setup? If I replace the shocks with adjustable ones will they make noise? I work on cars for a living I have a very sensitive ear when it comes to noises. I like the idea of having a car that rides great on road and had great off-road manners that do not make noise. Am I asking too much?

 

[1engineer]

I know this was a while ago, but can you share the link in question? I can't see your sig in Tapatalk. Thanks in advance!

The 10 Commandments of Modifying an Overland Vehicle | Expedition Portal

 

[Zonie Taco]

I'm looking for some rear coils that will allow me to weigh down the rear with an extra 500-600 lbs (CBI bumper extra spare , roof tent, ext.), while keeping stock ride height. Anyone have suggestions? Icon 2" springs? Wondering how that will work with the rear trd pro shocks

 

[JT-TRDPRO]

I just lifted my 2016 TRD Pro using 2010-2016 Toyota 4 Runner 4WD 3" lift kit 809H | BDS Suspension I Only used the top spacers, Springs and SwayBar links.

You can see more images pre and post lift here Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum - JT-TRDPRO's Album: Pre/Post Lift