Newbie questions on OME Suspension Setup

[whodat]

I have decided to finally get a lift because when I go on a ramp with a mild incline with the steering wheeled turned at an angle, the tires would rub on the SW bumper, and then I get "the look" from the princess. I can only imagine would it would be like when I do an emergency brake at an angle on the highway!

After much consideration, I feel like the OME Suspension Kit is the most bang for the buck considering it's reputation. I am finally ready to pull the trigger on an OME Suspension Kit, but have a few questions. Forgive me if they're stupid questions, but maybe someone else might benefit from them also...

I searched in the google search bar "5th gen ome" and didn't really find the answer I'm looking for. Mostly questions whether someone did it or not, how's the ride, etc. I know many have done it (the lifted thread has lots of people who've done it) and the "ride" is very subjective, some love it some hate it.

I currently have a Shrockworks front bumper and 285/70/17 Duratracs as the only major modifications on my 4Runner.

I plan to add sliders (most likely from BudBuilt, the "beefy" ones like phillyd2) in the near future.

And many many years down the road I will add a winch, skid plates, a roof rack, and a rear bumper with a tire carrier. It all depends on if the kids get into outdoor activities or not, and if they don't then it'll be after they leave for college, so the latest would be 18 years down the road For now, the 4R is set up as the family tank that will see the occasional camping, mild non-paved roads/river banks.

I plan on getting the:
-887 Heavy Front Coils
-Front top plate spacers
-No front diff drop kit
-Rear Coils 899 Heavy (880 lb constant weight)
-Rear shocks 60080 OME Shocks
-Rear shock stone guards

My question is, if I get the 899 Heavy Rear Coils (880 lbs constant rate) now, instead of getting 889 Medium Rear Coils now and having to upgrade to the 899 Heavy Rear Coils later down the road (more expenses), would that cause any problems because Toytec's website states "Med and Heavy coils are rated to handle additional weight from aftermarket bumpers, winches, and accessories and should NOT be used WITHOUT stated weight already in or installed at all times."

I'm guessing the above disclaimer is about a firmer ride, correct? Will it cause any other adverse effects to the ride, with the heavies on the front and back, that would be considered "dangerous"?

Will the "heavier" coils cause a larger lift than the "lighter" coils due to its strength? I'm thinking no, I've seen the term "spring rate" thrown around here a few times and I think that's what determines the differences in these coils. Therefore these coils should still yield the same lift in terms of inches, correct?

They have an option for a diff drop, but I read on here that it's only need if you have a lift >3" (I think harper7 said that?). The kit yields on average 3", better safe than sorry, or overkill?

They use the same OME shocks (60080 Rear Shocks) for the three different coils, so weight doesn't affect the shocks as much as they do with coils? I know shocks are used to help control the vehicle from bouncing all over the place, but wouldn't shocks be valved for specific weights, kinda like different coils for different loads? Or maybe the shocks cover a range of energy absorption? :shrug:


Thank you for your time!

 

[BigredTEX]

I have the OME system with the lightest springs. Without any additional weight on the vehicle the ride is pretty stiff. I've added Shrockworks sliders and really can't tell the difference. With the vehicle loaded down for an extended road trip it is better.

The OME system is designed for overland travel in mind and is designed for a heavy load. Even with a bumper and other add-ons, the heaviest springs will be very stiff. If you had front and rear bumpers, skids, sliders and provisions and gear for a month on the trail they would carry that load and still provide you the maximum ride height. If you can find a supplier that will allow you to try before you buy, that may be the best way to figure out the right spring set-up for you.

 

[thebwlife]

Think you should do 884's and Toytec Springs. If you go with heavy spring your going to ride so rough and your wife and kids will be miserable. Some people with heavy springs fully load with gear complain they are still to stiff.

Call Toytec Lifts - Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits and get some real experienced opinions before doing this.

 

[hamiltonj2w1]

I ran 884s with topout spacers and toytec superflex in the rear and like was mentioned before it was pretty stiff I kept about 150lbs of stuff in the back plus Rocky Road offroad sliders.

As for ride yes the OME kit will make it ride like a truck not a lifted caddy like some people want.

As for dangerous I feel like the very stiff springs might not be very much fun on washboard roads.

Diff drop if you do springs and topouts you will want a diff drop I got nearly 4.5 out of 884's with topout spacers.

And my 2 cents is if you add all that stuff way later down the road your shocks and struts will more then likely need to be replaced so swapping to a heavier spring shouldn't be much of an extra added expense

Here is what my old Trail Edition looked like http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/90014-post-your-trail-edition-here-3.html

 

[Intruder]

I plan to add sliders (most likely from BudBuilt, the "beefy" ones like phillyd2) in the near future.

Unless you're doing serious rock crawling where you're often landing the weight of the truck on your sliders you don't need the beefy ones. Save yourself the weight and money and get the regular ones. I've been running the regular bump outs for over a year through some pretty gnarly stuff without any issues at all.

My question is, if I get the 899 Heavy Rear Coils (880 lbs constant rate) now, instead of getting 889 Medium Rear Coils now and having to upgrade to the 899 Heavy Rear Coils later down the road (more expenses), would that cause any problems because Toytec's website states "Med and Heavy coils are rated to handle additional weight from aftermarket bumpers, winches, and accessories and should NOT be used WITHOUT stated weight already in or installed at all times."

I think the key is that you're looking at adding a lot of your weight "many years down the road". The OME shocks are not rebuildable, so it's likely that at some point between now and then you'll be replacing them. At that time you can go to a heavier spring, but for now like others have said your ride will be extremely stiff and it could be dangerous - think of bumpy roads with tight curves. Adio3x probably has a ton more weight than you're considering adding and I don't think he's even running the heavy OME springs. Check his build thread and consider starting with the springs he originally ran.

 

[Icufltrn]

I'll be watching this one. I am starting to look at kits so I can lift mine up.

 

[ATL4R]

I have decided to finally get a lift because when I go on a ramp with a mild incline with the steering wheeled turned at an angle, the tires would rub on the SW bumper, and then I get "the look" from the princess. I can only imagine would it would be like when I do an emergency brake at an angle on the highway!

After much consideration, I feel like the OME Suspension Kit is the most bang for the buck considering it's reputation. I am finally ready to pull the trigger on an OME Suspension Kit, but have a few questions. Forgive me if they're stupid questions, but maybe someone else might benefit from them also...

I searched in the google search bar "5th gen ome" and didn't really find the answer I'm looking for. Mostly questions whether someone did it or not, how's the ride, etc. I know many have done it (the lifted thread has lots of people who've done it) and the "ride" is very subjective, some love it some hate it.

I currently have a Shrockworks front bumper and 285/70/17 Duratracs as the only major modifications on my 4Runner.

I plan to add sliders (most likely from BudBuilt, the "beefy" ones like phillyd2) in the near future.

And many many years down the road I will add a winch, skid plates, a roof rack, and a rear bumper with a tire carrier. It all depends on if the kids get into outdoor activities or not, and if they don't then it'll be after they leave for college, so the latest would be 18 years down the road For now, the 4R is set up as the family tank that will see the occasional camping, mild non-paved roads/river banks.

I plan on getting the:
-887 Heavy Front Coils
-Front top plate spacers
-No front diff drop kit
-Rear Coils 899 Heavy (880 lb constant weight)
-Rear shocks 60080 OME Shocks
-Rear shock stone guards

My question is, if I get the 899 Heavy Rear Coils (880 lbs constant rate) now, instead of getting 889 Medium Rear Coils now and having to upgrade to the 899 Heavy Rear Coils later down the road (more expenses), would that cause any problems because Toytec's website states "Med and Heavy coils are rated to handle additional weight from aftermarket bumpers, winches, and accessories and should NOT be used WITHOUT stated weight already in or installed at all times."

I'm guessing the above disclaimer is about a firmer ride, correct? Will it cause any other adverse effects to the ride, with the heavies on the front and back, that would be considered "dangerous"?

Will the "heavier" coils cause a larger lift than the "lighter" coils due to its strength? I'm thinking no, I've seen the term "spring rate" thrown around here a few times and I think that's what determines the differences in these coils. Therefore these coils should still yield the same lift in terms of inches, correct?

They have an option for a diff drop, but I read on here that it's only need if you have a lift >3" (I think harper7 said that?). The kit yields on average 3", better safe than sorry, or overkill?

They use the same OME shocks (60080 Rear Shocks) for the three different coils, so weight doesn't affect the shocks as much as they do with coils? I know shocks are used to help control the vehicle from bouncing all over the place, but wouldn't shocks be valved for specific weights, kinda like different coils for different loads? Or maybe the shocks cover a range of energy absorption? :shrug:


Thank you for your time!

I have the 889 rear and 285 70's. rear fender is at 39" driver and 39.5" passenger.

Items adding weight to my rear over stock: Budbuilt gas skid, shrockworks sliders, 285 70 spare tire, and 160 pounds of gear in the back.

OME claims their "light" rear springs are for 0-450 lbs additional weight. I believe it.

I think you would be miserable with the heavier rears.


The 883, 884, 885, & 887 fronts are all the same rate just different heights. I think an 887 would work well without the top spacer for you(until you add more weight up front) Thats what i run with a shrokworks bumper, winch, and full bud skids. I have no top spacer and and sit around 37.5" passenger and 37.25" driver.