Newly Installed Toytec Ultimate

[usdm1]

Hi T4R Members,

I have a couple questions for those of you who installed the Toytec Ultimate kit on a Trail Edition.

1) When installing the front coilovers and LR UCA's, I disconnected the swaybar links and it was a PITA trying to reconnect it. I managed to reconnect it with the help of a jack, cuss words and A LOT of patience, but I am worried about unwanted tension on the KDSS, or it causing some other unforseen damage.

Someone posted a link that explains how to disable the KDSS and allow it to articulate freely. Unfortunately, since I was unaware of this and completed it by loosening the top bolts that connect to the frame, then prying the connector on the LCA's to line up, will this affect my KDSS or anything I should be aware of?

2) I read in another document about a differential drop that needs to be installed with the Toytec Ultimate kit. I did not install this as I did not see it in Toytec's install guide.

There were 2 sets of spacers that came with the Ultimate kit; one labled for Tundras (i don't know what it was for); the other was for some sort of swaybar spacer - it was rectangle in shape, but our swaybar connections are round.

Sorry for the ignorant questions, but this has been bugging me as I read other install guides on T4R. I would like to add that an alignment was needed after my install due to my steering wheel being off centered. Since the install I haven't had any issues, yet, but I want to get a second opinion.

I appreciate any help I can get,

-Eric

 

[brockeverly]

Hi T4R Members,

I have a couple questions for those of you who installed the Toytec Ultimate kit on a Trail Edition.

1) When installing the front coilovers and LR UCA's, I disconnected the swaybar links and it was a PITA trying to reconnect it. I managed to reconnect it with the help of a jack, cuss words and A LOT of patience, but I am worried about unwanted tension on the KDSS, or it causing some other unforseen damage.

Someone posted a link that explains how to disable the KDSS and allow it to articulate freely. Unfortunately, since I was unaware of this and completed it by loosening the top bolts that connect to the frame, then prying the connector on the LCA's to line up, will this affect my KDSS or anything I should be aware of?

2) I read in another document about a differential drop that needs to be installed with the Toytec Ultimate kit. I did not install this as I did not see it in Toytec's install guide.

There were 2 sets of spacers that came with the Ultimate kit; one labled for Tundras (i don't know what it was for); the other was for some sort of swaybar spacer - it was rectangle in shape, but our swaybar connections are round.

Sorry for the ignorant questions, but this has been bugging me as I read other install guides on T4R. I would like to add that an alignment was needed after my install due to my steering wheel being off centered. Since the install I haven't had any issues, yet, but I want to get a second opinion.

I appreciate any help I can get,

-Eric

I can tackle one of them for you. The diff drop is not needed. I ordered it myself and did not end up using it as my CV angles were just fine. Above 3" you may need to revisit it, but at 3" your should be fine.

 

[usdm1]

Ah, that makes sense. I feel a little more at ease

I measure 47" from ground to bottom of fender, it seems it raised my truck more than 2.5", which is supposed to be the factory settings of the coilovers from Toytec. What do you think about the angle of my CV and Steering Control Arm?

 

[brockeverly]

Doesn't look bad IMO. I am pretty sure you mean 37" not 47" though, or you lifted 12.5" LOL

 

[usdm1]

LOL! Laptop keys are dark and I neglected to read what I typed. haha.

Thanks again for your help

 

[Jesse1983]

There were 2 sets of spacers that came with the Ultimate kit; one labled for Tundras (i don't know what it was for); the other was for some sort of swaybar spacer - it was rectangle in shape, but our swaybar connections are round.

no swaybar relocates on a TE

 

[philromero215]

How the heck did u get it re connected?!!!! Im stuck

 

[Mijfwb23]

I used a rachet strap to reconnect mine and it worked, needed two people but wasn't too bad.

 

[weeeee]

Ah, that makes sense. I feel a little more at ease

I measure 47" from ground to bottom of fender, it seems it raised my truck more than 2.5", which is supposed to be the factory settings of the coilovers from Toytec. What do you think about the angle of my CV and Steering Control Arm?

Drive around and let it settle a bit, remeasure from there. If it's still a bit high, its safe to readjust after about 10 miles or so. Make sure when you measure you have the ebrake off, that affects the ride height a lot believe it or not.

 

[jca21]

you need to have all 4 tires off the ground on a KDSS equipped trail edition to make install of the sway bar easier.

 

[STLDAVE]

you need to have all 4 tires off the ground on a KDSS equipped trail edition to make install of the sway bar easier.

As I'll be dealing with this soon I need you to clarify. When you say "...all 4 tires off the ground...", does the truck need to have jackstands under the FRAME at all four corners, or can the jackstands be under the rear axle?
I think I know the answer but want to make sure.

 

[ejason]

The jack stands are under the frame, NOT the rear axel. I did the front and then the back. Moving the stands where i needed them. You need to be able to move the rear axel a bit for the coils and shocks.

 

[jca21]

As I'll be dealing with this soon I need you to clarify. When you say "...all 4 tires off the ground...", does the truck need to have jackstands under the FRAME at all four corners, or can the jackstands be under the rear axle?
I think I know the answer but want to make sure.

needs to be under the frame.

the problem with KDSS equipped 4runners is that when the rear is on the ground and the front is in the air the KDSS actuates and as a result becomes stupid hard to put back in.

you should have all 4 wheels off the ground with the jack stands under the FRAME. it takes the pressure off the KDSS system and makes putting it back into place MUCH easier.

this solved FactoryRide's issue of not being able to get the KDSS back into place.

shoot me a pm if you need more help.

 

[STLDAVE]

needs to be under the frame.

the problem with KDSS equipped 4runners is that when the rear is on the ground and the front is in the air the KDSS actuates and as a result becomes stupid hard to put back in.

you should have all 4 wheels off the ground with the jack stands under the FRAME. it takes the pressure off the KDSS system and makes putting it back into place MUCH easier.

this solved FactoryRide's issue of not being able to get the KDSS back into place.

shoot me a pm if you need more help.

Thanks! That's what i suspected but wasn't sure. Every bit of confirmed information is one less potential headache.

 

[harper7]

needs to be under the frame.

the problem with KDSS equipped 4runners is that when the rear is on the ground and the front is in the air the KDSS actuates and as a result becomes stupid hard to put back in.

you should have all 4 wheels off the ground with the jack stands under the FRAME. it takes the pressure off the KDSS system and makes putting it back into place MUCH easier.

this solved FactoryRide's issue of not being able to get the KDSS back into place.

shoot me a pm if you need more help.

Did you have yours loose?

Well I had all 4 wheels in the air,4 jackstands under the frame and it was still stupid hard to get the KDSS front bar hooked back up. I reattached the rear KDSS bar first and it was easy.

Need someway to keep the front KDSS actuator from extending ,like as some mentioned strapping it up before disconnecting the bar.

 

[Mick1]

I had my truck supported at the frame. Disconnected and reconnected the rear bar at the "C" shaped mounts easily.

Had the front bar disconnected from the lower control arms. Wrestled / fought to get one side reconnected at the lower control arm but the threads on one of the bolts was not right. Wrestled and fought to get the other side, but lost. Jacking / lever bars did not work. It would just raise the whole truck off the jack stands rather than move the lower control arm at times.

Only solved it by removing the bud built skid plate. Disconnecting sway bar from the non-kdss actuator side C clamp. Then reattaching the now mostly free bar on both sides to the lower control arms.

Only then using the jack to move the sway bar back into position to reattach the C shaped mount.

 

[jca21]

Did you have yours loose?

Well I had all 4 wheels in the air,4 jackstands under the frame and it was still stupid hard to get the KDSS front bar hooked back up. I reattached the rear KDSS bar first and it was easy.

Need someway to keep the front KDSS actuator from extending ,like as some mentioned strapping it up before disconnecting the bar.

i havent actually lifted mine yet. i would think ratchet straps would be the best choice.