Nitto Ridge Grappler?

[AINOMOATACO]

I pulled the trigger on some P-Rated RG’s yesterday at Discount Tire and waiting for them to come in. It was a $200 difference more for the C-loads. After reading this thread looks like the majority went with C-load range. Did i make a mistake? My 5th gen is my daily driver, probably 95% road with the occasional gravel roads and rocky trails, but nothing extreme.

 

[TeeDub21]

Love the way they look and they aren't terribly loud, although they do get a bit louder with some miles. My main gripe is they're scary at times in the wet. Unfortunately I live in the Pacific Northwest. I've had it pitch sideways on me a few times turning through wet intersections.

 

[2012sr5]

I've had it pitch sideways on me a few times turning through wet intersections.

Yikes. At what mileage did that start happening?

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

I ran them in 295 for about 6000 miles. They got better in the rain after maybe 1500 miles or so, seems to be what most people say. Also found they were best at about 33 PSI and they did get louder once broken in but not loud at all especially for how aggressive they are.

 

[TeeDub21]

Yikes. At what mileage did that start happening?

Always have been like this. Have about 4k miles on them now. Running 35 psi.

 

[HurricanePaul]

Anyone try running 265/70r17 LT C load on a 17x9 wheel? Manufacturer approved rim width is from 7.5 to 8.5.

Just curious. I bought the wrong wheel width.

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[Decipher]

You can definitely make the 9” work with that size, but it’s going to be stretched. This means that you’re going to get bad wear and decreased performance. I’d also not air down at all. You can make it work but it’s surprising how much that 1/2” difference makes.

I was on the opposite side of this with my 33s, trying to fit them onto the factory 7” wheel when 7.5 minimum is required. I had poor ride quality, vibrations, balancing issues, and I wouldn’t dream air down. Since I actually off-road my rig, this wasn’t acceptable and I bought an appropriate wheel size.

I’d recommend you jump up a size in tires since you already bought the wheels. I sold my stock sized Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws with 5,000 miles for barely a loss on Craigslist


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[HurricanePaul]

You can definitely make the 9” work with that size, but it’s going to be stretched. This means that you’re going to get bad wear and decreased performance. I’d also not air down at all. You can make it work but it’s surprising how much that 1/2” difference makes.

I was on the opposite side of this with my 33s, trying to fit them onto the factory 7” wheel when 7.5 minimum is required. I had poor ride quality, vibrations, balancing issues, and I wouldn’t dream air down. Since I actually off-road my rig, this wasn’t acceptable and I bought an appropriate wheel size.

I’d recommend you jump up a size in tires since you already bought the wheels. I sold my stock sized Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws with 5,000 miles for barely a loss on Craigslist


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Thanks for the response. I'm going to hold onto the wheels until I get bigger tires and lift early next year. Thanks.

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[RajjyP]

285/75R17 "C" installed on 17x8.5 SCS SR8 Wheels with 1.25" G2 Wheel Spacers. I'm really liking this setup. The SR8s are incredibly light, probably the closest to OEM weight available in an aftermarket wheel. Stoked on how it came out!

how much modding to run this regarding lifts, trims, etc? Looks amazing.

 

[ryan87]

anyone have actual measurements of the 255/80s yet? preferably on an 8" rim.
little disappointed in the height of my stmaxx in this size so probably going to try these next

 

[Swipter]

How tough is the SL version of this tire?

 

[DeepSea]

how much modding to run this regarding lifts, trims, etc? Looks amazing.

Thanks, 3/2 suspension and 1" body lift is what I have with BMC and the standard inner front fender trimming.

 

[CalRnr]

I just bought the RG's in 285/70/17 and realized I ordered the version that's not C or E. It doesn't list any play rating. Part #217710

Looks like the difference is that these have 13.5 Tread depth vs. the C and E that have 16.4. And Max load for these is 2756@44. E's are 3195@80. C's are 2755@50. Is there a big difference in anything with these tires vs. the C? Don't think I need the E. Mainly concerned with performance/handling and somewhat with off-road capability. Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

 

[CalRnr]

I just bought the RG's in 285/70/17 and realized I ordered the version that's not C or E. It doesn't list any play rating. Part #217710

Looks like the difference is that these have 13.5 Tread depth vs. the C and E that have 16.4. And Max load for these is 2756@44. E's are 3195@80. C's are 2755@50. Is there a big difference in anything with these tires vs. the C? Don't think I need the E. Mainly concerned with performance/handling and somewhat with off-road capability. Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on this. Trying to figure out if I should send these tires back and get the C. Talked to a guy at Nitto and he said these are softer and will have a less "harsh" ride on the road than the C and E versions. But, seems like they are a bit less durable for off road use.

 

[r1verf3nix]

You bought the lowest rated tires. They are 4 ply on the sidewall and are NOT suitable for any sort of rock crawling. They will be fine for road wear and light off roading.

 

[4RunnerFlex]

Just installed my Ridge Grapplers C-rated 285/70/17 and loving them. Quiet on the road. Haven’t tested off road yet but love the way they look.

 

[CalRnr]

Just installed my Ridge Grapplers C-rated 285/70/17 and loving them. Quiet on the road. Haven’t tested off road yet but love the way they look.

They look great! Did you have to do much in terms of trimming to avoid rubbing? Curious what lift you went with. About about to do the same tires, TRD Wheels and sorting out the lift.

 

[Decipher]

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on this. Trying to figure out if I should send these tires back and get the C. Talked to a guy at Nitto and he said these are softer and will have a less "harsh" ride on the road than the C and E versions. But, seems like they are a bit less durable for off road use.

Sounds like a passenger series tire. Does the size say “p” before the numbers on the sidewall?

Diehards will say not to off road with these and while I agree they’re not as tough as C load tires, I did off-roading with P series tires aired down way more than friends with flashy Jeeps and E load mud terrains without any issues.

Your ride will be more comfortable on road, you will wear down quicker than the higher loads (duh), but unless you’re in Moab crawling serious rock you’ll be fine off-roading. I was. Send them back if you’re concerned. Better to address it now than regret it later.


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[4RunnerFlex]

They look great! Did you have to do much in terms of trimming to avoid rubbing? Curious what lift you went with. About about to do the same tires, TRD Wheels and sorting out the lift.

I went with TRD pro suspension coz they were on clearance and did icon 2” lift for rear coil and then added spacers for the front to get 2.5” lift front and 1.5”lift on rear. No rubbing but my shop pushed my front wheel well a little bit

 

[CalRnr]

Sounds like a passenger series tire. Does the size say “p” before the numbers on the sidewall?

Diehards will say not to off road with these and while I agree they’re not as tough as C load tires, I did off-roading with P series tires aired down way more than friends with flashy Jeeps and E load mud terrains without any issues.

Your ride will be more comfortable on road, you will wear down quicker than the higher loads (duh), but unless you’re in Moab crawling serious rock you’ll be fine off-roading. I was. Send them back if you’re concerned. Better to address it now than regret it later.


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Thanks for the info. Glad to hear from someone with off-road experience with the non C or E load tires.

I've been doing a ton of reading on this and never thought I'd need to know so much about tires. But, I don't want to regret my tire purchase and/or have to buy new tires right away.

There's no "P" at the beginning of the tire numbers. Just 285/70/R17 116 Q. From what I'm reading, P = P-Metric and no P = Hard Metric or Euro Metric. Non P tires have a heavier load than P tires.

The C and E have LT at the beginning of the numbers, which is "Light Truck" metric. Sounds like LT tires are basically for carrying heavy loads or pulling large trailers. (probably stating the obvious here, but i'm a newbie

Having less ply seems like the negative of these tires, the positive is that they are 9 lbs lighter than the C and E, which I'm assuming results in better MPG and they probably are quicker off the line.

Would the concern with lighter tires, be blowing a tire or tearing a sidewall when off-roading or when towing? I don't think I'm going to be doing serious rock crawling, but who knows where this goes eventually. Probably better to have more versatile/durable tires...