honda250xtitan
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possibly. but the only thing you hear in our 4r is the roof rack and normal wind noise. zero tire hum. the f250 all i hear is the tire hum so idk. doesn't bother me either way lol
Nitto Ridge Grappler?
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possibly. but the only thing you hear in our 4r is the roof rack and normal wind noise. zero tire hum. the f250 all i hear is the tire hum so idk. doesn't bother me either way lol
eelliiss
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This is good to know. I'm on Cooper ST Maxx pizza cutters right now, and I was thinking of making the switch to RGs after the Coopers have run their course. May think twice about that now.
Reading up on this thread and had a few questions. I have a '17 TRD PRO and almost wearing time to change out the stock nittos. Does the 285 RG fit underneath for the spare.
Got some Cornfed 2.5/1.5'' just to get it a slightly aggressive stance. Any rubbing for owners with the same set-up? Thanks all.
Got some Cornfed 2.5/1.5'' just to get it a slightly aggressive stance. Any rubbing for owners with the same set-up? Thanks all.
comtn4x4
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Yes a 285 will fit underneath, although it will hang down more then your current spare.
I'd expect a bit of rubbing, but the trimming is minor. Probably don't need a BMC
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DannyLlama
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[MENTION=112299]Formidable[/MENTION] thinking about switching to this setup , same size too.. Any more feedback since your last post? Recommend them?
Thanks!
Danny
Formidable
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Excellent all around tire choice. Highly recommended. A little more road noise than KO2’s, (due to the sipes). BUT... Still quiet considering the capabilities of the tire and per the tech at Discount Tire, easier to balance than the KO2’s.
DannyLlama
Elite Member
Thank you !
For the rest of the folks.. I read mixed reviews about snow performance. I guess my question is, is there a tire that would concour all? including Snow?
Is Snow performance that bad?
They do make the 3-peak snow flake ones but do not make the mistake of assuming they are in the same class as a dedicated winter tire.
All-terrains can work well in snow, but understand that they are still no where near the stopping power of dedicated winter tires. 4WD+3PSF is an advantage only when moving in snow. In stopping you are the same as every other 2WD vehicle.
I keep a second set of wheels for winter driving and Americas/Discount tire swaps them for me for free. Michelin Xice XI2. Would have bought XI3 but not available for our 4runner. Ran those on my old Forested.
All-terrains can work well in snow, but understand that they are still no where near the stopping power of dedicated winter tires. 4WD+3PSF is an advantage only when moving in snow. In stopping you are the same as every other 2WD vehicle.
I keep a second set of wheels for winter driving and Americas/Discount tire swaps them for me for free. Michelin Xice XI2. Would have bought XI3 but not available for our 4runner. Ran those on my old Forested.
comtn4x4
Senior Member
Yes the snow performance is that bad.
I'm on Cooper St Maxx's now and they are all around much better. I didn't realize how bad the RG were until I put on the Coopers in January. I was putting the rig in 4 Hi with even a bit of snow to keep traction in corners and from a stop. With the coopers I can get where I'm going without being in 4 Hi frequently. In deep snow and on ice the RG's are a joke.
There are some other AT's I hear are good too depending on your application. Check out the Cooper AT3 XLT or the Falken AT3W is 3 Peak rated
DannyLlama
Elite Member
Well that is unfortunate. I currently am running Toyo AT'2 and have punctured a side wall twice.
I dont mind taking a hit on MPG and noise to have a great all around tire...
For those that made the switch from RG's to something else, is there a consistent good all around tire?
Cooper ST Max?
I dont mind taking a hit on MPG and noise to have a great all around tire...
For those that made the switch from RG's to something else, is there a consistent good all around tire?
Cooper ST Max?
Taco04
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Nitto RG 255 80r17 cookie cutters
I have run a set of these tires long enough now to have a decent amount of input. I previously ran Cooper St Maxx's but after 5 sets between 2 trucks I decided it was time for a change. First thing I noticed going from 255 80r17 coopers to the same size Nitto RG's was how much taller the RG's were. It was most obvious on my swing outs as the tire just missed my fuel can carrier where before there was ample room. This truck see's very little snow if any maybe running through Parts of AZ on the way to the Mojave in February every year. The one thing this truck does see a lot of living on the Texas Coast and hitting the Western deserts is sand. So far these tires have been great the sidewalls are a softer aired down then the Maxx's. I thought this would pose a problem with punctures but it hasn't. I have even stuffed a wheel so hard that it bent the wheel and tacoed a spindle. On the Hwy these tires are quieter than the Maxx's and I have now run them with less tread so don't know what to say there.... This may not apply on the wider tires but it has been noticeable on these tires. I have also noticed they do better in wet weather then the Maxx's as we deal with a lot of crazy wet weather here when we get it... Any way will most likely replace these with another set. While I don't deal with snow I can say these tires do far better with sand than the Maxx's.. Still love th Maxxes on my old tow truck since they didn't wear as fast.... Just overall my 02
I have run a set of these tires long enough now to have a decent amount of input. I previously ran Cooper St Maxx's but after 5 sets between 2 trucks I decided it was time for a change. First thing I noticed going from 255 80r17 coopers to the same size Nitto RG's was how much taller the RG's were. It was most obvious on my swing outs as the tire just missed my fuel can carrier where before there was ample room. This truck see's very little snow if any maybe running through Parts of AZ on the way to the Mojave in February every year. The one thing this truck does see a lot of living on the Texas Coast and hitting the Western deserts is sand. So far these tires have been great the sidewalls are a softer aired down then the Maxx's. I thought this would pose a problem with punctures but it hasn't. I have even stuffed a wheel so hard that it bent the wheel and tacoed a spindle. On the Hwy these tires are quieter than the Maxx's and I have now run them with less tread so don't know what to say there.... This may not apply on the wider tires but it has been noticeable on these tires. I have also noticed they do better in wet weather then the Maxx's as we deal with a lot of crazy wet weather here when we get it... Any way will most likely replace these with another set. While I don't deal with snow I can say these tires do far better with sand than the Maxx's.. Still love th Maxxes on my old tow truck since they didn't wear as fast.... Just overall my 02
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SilentWalker
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I’ve had ridge grapplers on my tundra and my 4Runner and loved them on both. Both came with Terra Grapplers and those are horrible in wet weather whereas the RG’s don’t slip. As for off road traction, my vehicles are two off road scenarios, the Texas beaches and the Texas Hill Country. The hunting camp has a creek crossing which I’ve been lucky and not had to cross it when it was very deep but they held traction great going through it and up the other side. The two trails leading to the camp house is not rock paved and when wet can get pretty slick. My old Jeep had fallen wild peaks and it slid a lot down the trails but the grapplers seem to keep me going straight without sliding sideways. The 4Runner is better about it than the Tundra was though.
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Rogue-Runner
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I've read through the entire thread, and posts on pages 46-48 and 57 have some really great information regarding the P-rated RGs. I'm wondering if anyone has tried both the C and P-rated version of this tire and can speak to the difference in comfort or MPG. I know that comfort is subjective, but for anyone who has felt the difference, was it just noticeable or substantial in your view?
I'm installing 285s the week after next and have gone back and forth between P and C half a dozen times. I do light to moderate off-roading most weekends. Never for off-roading's sake, but rather just to get to remote locations so the kiddos can swim near a waterfall and have a picnic or something. I'm in the southern Utah desert, so the terrain can be sharp and punishing at times. Other than that, it's DD the rest of the time. So far, I haven't had any flats on the P-rated Dunlops from the dealer (fingers crossed), but it's only been a few months.
I won't hesitate to get C's if I need to, but if I can manage on Ps AND the difference in comfort or MPG is significant, I think I'd just get Ps with DT certificates. It says orders take 8 days, so I'll need to put it in soon. Any particular reason why I should definitely get Cs? Any advice is really appreciated. If not, maybe I'll try both myself and document my experience. Thanks, all.
I'm installing 285s the week after next and have gone back and forth between P and C half a dozen times. I do light to moderate off-roading most weekends. Never for off-roading's sake, but rather just to get to remote locations so the kiddos can swim near a waterfall and have a picnic or something. I'm in the southern Utah desert, so the terrain can be sharp and punishing at times. Other than that, it's DD the rest of the time. So far, I haven't had any flats on the P-rated Dunlops from the dealer (fingers crossed), but it's only been a few months.
I won't hesitate to get C's if I need to, but if I can manage on Ps AND the difference in comfort or MPG is significant, I think I'd just get Ps with DT certificates. It says orders take 8 days, so I'll need to put it in soon. Any particular reason why I should definitely get Cs? Any advice is really appreciated. If not, maybe I'll try both myself and document my experience. Thanks, all.
I am happy with my choice with C's for the peace of mind of having sidewall protection. You described terrain that brings sharp rocks to mind. P rated were out of stock when I did my lift so I went with C. They are not harsher than P rating as I was told, I run them at 39 PSI and love them. Just hard enough to reduce the squishy turn feel but not uncomfortable at all over bumps. A tad noiser than my previously 265/70 Goodyear Ultraterrains. I am between moderate to heavy offroading. Heavy when i need to climb past obstacles to go hunting.
RG C's are heavier than most by a few punds so I seem to have taken a 1mpg to 1.5mpg hit. Don't think it is just the tires though but a combination of bigger tire than stock, lift, and a new gobi rack.
FWIW, tire is comfortable in C, but could be attributed to both suspension choice and tire size. I upgraded to larger 285/70 tires and my Westcott Designs spacer lift kept the stock Fox suspension system geometries and travel same so still feels stock.
Rogue-Runner
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Thanks for the input! So do you think you would have gone with P-rated if they had been in stock? I just called my local DT and they said they could have Cs tomorrow or Ps next week.
