Nor Cal Wheeling, Camping and BS - 2018

FWIW, there was about 2-4feet of snow when we went 2 weeks ago.

Hopefully you guys don't get kicked out like we did. The guy apparently took pics of some of our trucks and threatened to call the police...? Or something along the lines of that... Calling [MENTION=175666]-joshua[/MENTION].

US Forest Service seasonal road closures...


Yeah the gentleman manning the snowplow took pics of the plates (old plates now that I've gotten my legacy plates in..:biggrin1:) on my truck and a couple rigs behind me, informing us that he would be forced to share our info with the Forest Rangers (hefty fine) if we decided to proceed with riding the trail. He informed us that the trail was closed during the winter season and only snow mobiles were allowed on the trail.

In doing some research it looks like this checks out, however it looks like it only lasted until March 31st.

Yeah, this...

It's legit...

Lots of legal fighting over the last 20-30 years about use and closures and environmental protection and what not. Seasonal road closures are part of the current status quo...

Depending on the forest, the road, and the general weather conditions... Nov. thru April is typically closed... but if there is spring snow - like there has been - I'd expect the seasonal closures to extend out till end of April or May (or later depending on how much more snow/rain falls this week).
 
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I think someone should call to verify to see if Bowman is in fact open. The link you posted said it was updated in 2016..

The campgroundis open, but Bowman Road is closed... It should be open since it's past March 31, but I wonder if they're going to close it for storm damage...:noidea::noidea:

I believe Bowman Road is closed where the bridge washed out last winter... not a seasonal closure... but a damage closure... so it'll be closed till repaired (if its repaired).

Attached pic is from last August when I was in the area...


Might be closed due to bridge needs fixed. Haven't looked on there site yet.

Yeah, this...

Website says it’s open

The website for the campsite or the Forest Service site for the road? There are other roads into the camp site... so I'd expect that the campsite will get opened (if it is not already).




With the recent snow and rain combined with the expected rain up there this week... I would expect the seasonal closures to still be in effect. I cannot find out for sure online... so I will try to call today if I can ...
 

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I believe Bowman Road is closed where the bridge washed out last winter... not a seasonal closure... but a damage closure... so it'll be closed till repaired (if its repaired).

Attached pic is from last August when I was in the area...




Yeah, this...



The website for the campsite or the Forest Service site for the road? There are other roads into the camp site... so I'd expect that the campsite will get opened (if it is not already).




With the recent snow and rain combined with the expected rain up there this week... I would expect the seasonal closures to still be in effect. I cannot find out for sure online... so I will try to call today if I can ...

I went to bowman in feb. diddnt make it all the way to the bridge before my buddy had to leave. Diddnt know that happened! There’s other ways around, however they take much longer which means much longer way back.
 
Looks like I missed some fun...

Had to do some adulting in Murphy's this weekend so I wasn't able to make it.
That being said, I did find time on Saturday to check out the Pourhouse as recommended by [MENTION=113049]rochmpr[/MENTION]... liked it so much that I went back Sunday for another beer and sandwich. Thanks for the recommendation Krister:thumb:

And I found a little time to explore in Arnold a bit and test out my new tire cover.

Aside from the main trails outside of Arnold (Sourgrass, Corral Hollow, Slick Rock and Deer Valley), there are a lot of Forest Service roads as well as Black Springs OHV.

Yes, the Murphys Pour House has great beer on tap and always revolving. The othe thing great about Murphys is almost every place is within walking distance of wherever you park. Lots of good food and I suppose wine (if you like that sort of thing).

I have plenty of recommendations for places up the Hwy 4 corridor.

Arnold
- Big Trees Market - Groceries, beer and great deli sandwiches
- Dogwood Seasonal Cuisine - Farm to fork dinner (pricey)
- Bistro Espresso - Coffee, breakfast, wine, beer, lunches
- Bristol’s Ranch House Café - Breakfast & lunch
- El Vaquero Authentic - Mexican
- Giant Burger - Name says it all
- JJ’s Dive Bar & Grill - Lunch & dinners
- Round Table Pizza
- Sarafina’s Italian Kitchen
- Susie’s Diner - Breakfast
- Snowshoe Brewery & Restaurant - Beer, food, Take-n-Bake Pizza

Dorrington / Camp Connell
- The Lube Room - Full bar, lunch, dinner, occasional live music , outdoor area, very family friendly
- Camp Connell General Store - Gas, coffee, breakfast, lunch, dinners & wood fire pizza on Saturday & Sundays with large outdoor area as well as general store

Avery
- Coop’s Coffee House - Coffee
- Las Tres Perlas - Taco truck on right hand side of road heading East just past Avery but before Arnold
- Avery Saloon - Yep, just a saloon
 
So if bowman doesn’t work out does anyone have any suggestions? Please keep in mind it is a Sunday and I don’t want to spend ALL day driving lol. MET? Snows gone so the trails are open.
 
So if bowman doesn’t work out does anyone have any suggestions? Please keep in mind it is a Sunday and I don’t want to spend ALL day driving lol. MET? Snows gone so the trails are open.

I think [MENTION=166246]bpchura[/MENTION] mentioned Blackwood Canyon trail(I think was the name) way back.

There's also an abandoned mine? Ski resort? Something... That [MENTION=142877]Folsom4Rnr[/MENTION] told me about a few months back.

Then a few trails near doner pass.
 
Check out this map.. https://www.fs.fed.us/r5/webmaps/SierraSnowDepth/
not sure how accurate this is but it says Blackwood Canyon Trail has points with over 100 inches of snow cover still..... not saying I'm not down to try but I've had my fair share of snow wheeling this winter already :thumb3:

I'll keep an eye on it and we can get out there in a few weeks. Let me know what happens this weekend as well.
 
Check out this map.. https://www.fs.fed.us/r5/webmaps/SierraSnowDepth/
not sure how accurate this is but it says Blackwood Canyon Trail has points with over 100 inches of snow cover still..... not saying I'm not down to try but I've had my fair share of snow wheeling this winter already :thumb3:

I'll keep an eye on it and we can get out there in a few weeks. Let me know what happens this weekend as well.

That’s where I’m at as well. Snow isn’t bad but if I’m takin my family want my daughter to have fun as well. One of my truck drivers told me there’s no snow up 80. We’re expected to get a little bit this week I think.
 
There's a trail just to the left of the dinner bridge that crosses the dried out creek. But you're probably right, with the recent weather conditions I wouldn't be surprised if it was still closed.



I believe Bowman Road is closed where the bridge washed out last winter... not a seasonal closure... but a damage closure... so it'll be closed till repaired (if its repaired).

Attached pic is from last August when I was in the area...





Yeah, this...



The website for the campsite or the Forest Service site for the road? There are other roads into the camp site... so I'd expect that the campsite will get opened (if it is not already).




With the recent snow and rain combined with the expected rain up there this week... I would expect the seasonal closures to still be in effect. I cannot find out for sure online... so I will try to call today if I can ...
 
So if bowman doesn’t work out does anyone have any suggestions? Please keep in mind it is a Sunday and I don’t want to spend ALL day driving lol. MET? Snows gone so the trails are open.

Yeah, I'm also trying to find somewhere to go for this we weekend, but on Saturday. Im thinking about heading up to Arnold area.
 
So if bowman doesn’t work out does anyone have any suggestions? Please keep in mind it is a Sunday and I don’t want to spend ALL day driving lol. MET? Snows gone so the trails are open.

I think [MENTION=166246]bpchura[/MENTION] mentioned Blackwood Canyon trail(I think was the name) way back.

There's also an abandoned mine? Ski resort? Something... That [MENTION=142877]Folsom4Rnr[/MENTION] told me about a few months back.

Then a few trails near doner pass.

Still thinking of going towards Arnold?

Saturday would be a bit easier to go wheeling, than Sunday.


I called ranger stations in Tahoe and El Dorado National Forests and both are still under seasonal road closures this weekend (TNF till May 1 per the ranger). Note - MET and trails in that area are part of the EDNF... including the abandoned ski resort at Iron Mountain off HWY88.

I havent looked... but I would suspect the Stanislaus National Forest has similar restrictions... ... if someone can call the Ranger Station and confirm trails are open and can pull together the details and a group for Sunday Im sure I could make it down ... (but I cannot make Saturday tho - have prior commitments).
 
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Feel free to wheel up to my place and grab a rake! :D I'll have cold beers!

Otherwise, I'll be at the Lube Room for dinner and drinks.

That'd be sweet. Although, I don't know [MENTION=175666]-joshua[/MENTION] 's plans, so I might stay home tomorrow and try going wheeling sunday if they go.
 
I called ranger stations in Tahoe and El Dorado National Forests and both are still under seasonal road closures this weekend (TNF till May 1 per the ranger). Note - MET and trails in that area are part of the EDNF... including the abandoned ski resort at Iron Mountain off HWY88.

I havent looked... but I would suspect the Stanislaus National Forest has similar restrictions... ... if someone can call the Ranger Station and confirm trails are open and can pull together the details and a group for Sunday Im sure I could make it down ... (but I cannot make Saturday tho - have prior commitments).

Booo..... But it makes sense...

Knoxville/Cow Mountain might be a bit of a stretch for Sunday... Poker Flat? I think there are some random trails directly north of Placerville too...
 
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