Not sure how this happened but, ouch 2017 flop

[Jeremy556]

I shouldn't have looked at this thread....I am about to make a run to crystal mill in Marble (before devils punchbowl) loaded down with RTT. Being top heavy made me nervous before I saw this.

There is nothing tippy between Marble and Crystal, either way. The crazy traffic is worse, imho.

 

[Sleeter]

I heard through the internet that the wrecker cost $3k and insurance paid... I have taken BB twice in my jeep and I can't remember that spot as being technical in anyway, it looks like he took the most blind route through the most off-camber section and put his downhill wheel in that hole. Big mistake.

 

[Jetboy]

Skip to 0:47 for an example. Just a matter of time before the wreck happens. After looking closer I think it's a different one. Just an easy example of how these things happen. Push your luck one too many times. - cool video in general though.
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[ninchendo]

I am surprised by how many people are kicking a guy/girl when they are down.

It is obvious that experience is important, but you can't get experience without actually going out there. Mistakes happen and you learn. Training helps but still doesn't replace experience.

For all these anti-overlanders out here posting, it is ironic since some of you have instagram pages that highlight your build and overlanding adventures. The whole point of this forum and overlanding is to have a community. It isn't for you to grandstand on a pedestal at the expense of others and brag about how awesome you are.

I have come on this forum for assistance in tailoring the vehicle to meet my needs. I have even come to some of you directly for help and you guys have been very gracious with your information. That is why some of these comments are so alarming to me.

I am not the most knowledgeable with these vehicles, don't have the best off road experience, and don't have many of the skills you guys may have, but I do know when someone is being an @$$.

 

[Flemster]

This picture was taken at the same spot 2 months beforehand. When you go down a ledge, go down the ledge, not across it. This guy wouldn't last 10 minutes in Moab. Just my .02. Ridiculous how many vehicles are flopping/plummeting down the sides of mountains due to driver error. This hobby is a privilege, not a right, don't be the one to ruin it for everyone else.
Though this does happen more often than it should, it looks like the carnage was handled well, glad everyone (minus the truck) is ok. Glad the right people were there to make a quick recovery as well. Practice makes perfect everyone, don't get in over your head.
[MENTION=144428]RockyMtnPhoto[/MENTION]graphy being a badass

Don't ruin this view for the rest of us ITS TOO GOOD

 

[NoOneBetter]

Was just there less than a month ago...
Looks like the line he took was way more passenger than my line. Although I have to admit, it was a little sketchy from the driver seat, especially with all the weight up top.

 

[JSparky]

Don't get me started on the "overlanders" lol. They are hilarious. Thank God where I go they haven't found out about it yet. Otherwise, instead of running solo in a stock truck with just a few tools, my bike and a rope for a half a day I would be required to have every gadget and crap known, full suspension upgrade, E tires, RTT, extra fuel and water for seven days, all to drive 40 miles off road. Oh, I would have to go really slow and get in line with all the other idiots at every little ditch, while they got out their max trax and bridging ladders to go over a culvert. Sheesh.

They really need to get back on the couch and eat another twinkie and dreaming of exploring instead of trying it without putting in the up front effort.

You cannot buy experience. You cannot buy time. You cannot buy intelligence. You cannot buy skill. You can only buy stuff, as evidenced by some of these vehicles and posts.

Rant over.

I was having a Toyota Care service done back in June and when I pulled up one of the service writer's ran over and said "nice truck, do you overland?!".. made me pause for a minute but the guy was so excited I couldn't let him down, I bypassed the question and just told him I go on lots of trips. Very nice guy but it's funny how connotations work.

 

[GottaSkiBC]

Skip to 0:47 for an example. Just a matter of time before the wreck happens. After looking closer I think it's a different one. Just an easy example of how these things happen. Push your luck one too many times. - cool video in general though.
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Cool video... makes me wonder how many guys are controlling a drone / thinking about their GoPro rigging while they tackle a tough obstacle. I know these things "fly themselves", but it would only take an instant to draw your attention away.

But I do love these videos...

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[FunBobby]

Where in Texas? There are several off road parks all over the state.

Far east, Arklatex area.

 

[Toffees]

Far east, Arklatex area.

Barnwell Mtn, in Gilmer, is an off road park close to you. But I thought you were talking of a training course. There are at least three more within a half-day's drive for you.

 

[mybabydaddy]

I took a Toyota Corolla down South Padre Island back in the 90's. No problems.

90’s huh? I knew I knew you from a former life.... Spring Break on S Padre ’91, ’92, and ’93..... Hmmm, wonder who this mysterious 1engineer really is...?

 

[Grug556]

FUarock

This place is getting mean..real mean. Like the temple of Squatdog! :target:

 

[wfo9]

Far east, Arklatex area.

Barnwell TX... Hot springs AK... are the two largest near you with the most diverse terrain. Check out Lone Star Toyota Jambo next spring.

 

[wfo9]

Skip to 0:47 for an example. Just a matter of time before the wreck happens. After looking closer I think it's a different one. Just an easy example of how these things happen. Push your luck one too many times. - cool video in general though.

Yea, neat vid. but the 23 second mark is was a good example of the same thing almost happening. You need a spotter for stuff like that.

I understand why people do it without one... I'm guilty myself, but it is often the difference between damage/disaster and an easy drive up/down. There is just no way to see out of these trucks and feel can't cut it unless you have done the line before. I don't think people realize the difference between a flop and no drama.. is often an inch or less. You can't feel that.... someone often has to guide you.

Now in a dedicated crawler/trail rig fully caged... well that is different as the rig is built for such shenanigans.

 

[leftyguns21]

There is nothing tippy between Marble and Crystal, either way. The crazy traffic is worse, imho.

that's a relief thank you!!

the traffic on the main roads or the traffic on the offroad?

 

[Mass 4runner]

Seems like a front camera would be a godsend in helping navigate these vehicles through things like this. Even on the mild trails I have explored I find myself repeatedly getting out and inspecting on foot because I can't see a damn thing past that hood.

 

[Toffees]

Barnwell TX... Hot springs AK... are the two largest near you with the most diverse terrain. Check out Lone Star Toyota Jambo next spring.

These are closest for me as well. Safe for a solo adventure, someone getting their legs, or do these need an experienced guide as well?

*I mean, I can figure out the trail ratings and such, like going skiing, but otherwise.

 

[1engineer]

90’s huh? I knew I knew you from a former life.... Spring Break on S Padre ’91, ’92, and ’93..... Hmmm, wonder who this mysterious 1engineer really is...?

Yep. Spring Break '90 lol but we were way out of school by then. At that time I was Chief Hydraulics Engineer for a medium size OEM manufacturing Off Highway mobile equipment. My wife was a Captain in the Air Force - Flight Nurse - and was getting ready to ship out to the Gulf for what would become Desert Storm. I mixed business with pleasure and flew down to test an off shore crane, flew back off the platform for the weekend, rented a car, picked her up at Lackland and drove to South Padre Island. Then drove that little Corolla a long way down the beach! Great weekend. She later shipped out and was flying the Gulf to Germany route for several months.

 

[LawnDart]

Seems like a front camera would be a godsend in helping navigate these vehicles through things like this. Even on the mild trails I have explored I find myself repeatedly getting out and inspecting on foot because I can't see a damn thing past that hood.

People make it down much much harder trails without traction control systems or camera systems. The weakest link will always be the thing sitting between seat and steering wheel.

Same thing with pilots, there's a reason they train with all the electronic aids, but still know how to fly based on analog instruments and dead reckoning.

It's a common issue that people think that technology can outsmart physics and natural terrain that's been here longer than we have as a species, and long after our collective time on this earth.

 

[Falcon21]

I took a Toyota Corolla down South Padre Island back in the 90's. No problems.

Lots of stories like this from locals in the area. From personal experience, the weekend after Harvey hit the coast, I saw someone driving a Hyundai Elantra 36 miles down Padre Island Seashore. Sand was packed after the high tides and driving conditions were great. Of course two days later 4 wheel drive had pretty much become a requirement again.