NPA: Bilstein 47-258624 - 6112 Coilovers for 96-02 Toyota 4Runner

[DirtTimeAttack]

The photo above is my setup on the 7th setting with SPC tubular arms. Really enjoying it so far!:usa:

 

[absalom]

Do we know hub-to-fender measurements are, on the lowest setting?

 

[AssBurns]

Also do we know compressed and extended lengths? Will the spindle hit the coils at full droop?


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[DirtTimeAttack]

Also do we know compressed and extended lengths? Will the spindle hit the coils at full droop?


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When I first installed the coils I still had the OEM UCA in place and at full droop the spindle/arm were very very close to the coil spring. I would say if you plan to run stock height on them you'll be fine, but if you are lifting at all get arms to be able to correct alignment and get correct geometry. Chas of MRT may have a suggestion as well and maybe the access to those other measurements from Bilstein

 

[absalom]

Bilstein products tend to be overly stiff in my experience. Do you guys find this to be true? Question aimed at forum members, not the vendor of the product.

 

[phattyduck]

Bilstein products tend to be overly stiff in my experience. Do you guys find this to be true? Question aimed at forum members, not the vendor of the product.

I've only had experience with the 4600 series truck shocks and car coilovers so far (PSS9's)... but they are the best mix of handling and ride I have ever experienced. Always stiffer than stock, but in many ways more comfortable (better mix of high vs. low speed dampening). I will probably be getting the 5100 series stuff all around when I replace the 4600 stuff that is on the truck right now. Realistically, I won't need the capabilities of the 6112 coilovers.

-Charlie

 

[AZBub]

Bilstein products tend to be overly stiff in my experience. Do you guys find this to be true? Question aimed at forum members, not the vendor of the product.

The Bilsteins up front make the Monroes I have in back feel like a Mercury Grand Marquee with blown shocks trying to run a road course. I often wonder if I even have shocks back there.

 

[absalom]

The Bilsteins up front make the Monroes I have in back feel like a Mercury Grand Marquee with blown shocks trying to run a road course. I often wonder if I even have shocks back there.

You might not. The Monroes may be cheap, but they don't last very long. Thankfully they take all of 30 mins to swap out.

 

[JayRolla]

The Bilsteins up front make the Monroes I have in back feel like a Mercury Grand Marquee with blown shocks trying to run a road course. I often wonder if I even have shocks back there.

My exact experience I had the day I installed them.

 

[DirtTimeAttack]

You might not. The Monroes may be cheap, but they don't last very long. Thankfully they take all of 30 mins to swap out.

Something like a monoroe really won't compare.

By no means would I call the 6112 on 3rd gen overly stiff. The ride is very nice and matches the 5100 in the back decently. I could see where the 5160 in back when it comes out could be nice if it really does add more dampening over the 5100 in the rear.

I have ridden and driven Tacomas with the 6112 and I did think it was a little stiff so I could see where you might get that impression if you look around a bit. Maxing out height could be part of that as well. The dampening on the 3rd gen specific 6112 is very nice though. I am also only on 31's so I dont have a ton of tire to absorb things off-road. This is all on road conditions so far too, so i am sure off-road they will feel great. This is my 2 cents on your question

 

[absalom]

My exact experience I had the day I installed them.

Lol, you must have gotten a crap pair. Hopefully you replaced em with something else right away

Something like a monoroe really won't compare.

By no means would I call the 6112 on 3rd gen overly stiff. The ride is very nice and matches the 5100 in the back decently. I could see where the 5160 in back when it comes out could be nice if it really does add more dampening over the 5100 in the rear.

I have ridden and driven Tacomas with the 6112 and I did think it was a little stiff so I could see where you might get that impression if you look around a bit. Maxing out height could be part of that as well. The dampening on the 3rd gen specific 6112 is very nice though. I am also only on 31's so I dont have a ton of tire to absorb things off-road. This is all on road conditions so far too, so i am sure off-road they will feel great. This is my 2 cents on your question

Cool, good to know.

 

[JayRolla]

Lol, you must have gotten a crap pair. Hopefully you replaced em with something else right away


Cool, good to know.

I did get a crap pair. They said Monroe. But again that was 15 years ago

 

[d_benet]

When I first installed the coils I still had the OEM UCA in place and at full droop the spindle/arm were very very close to the coil spring. I would say if you plan to run stock height on them you'll be fine, but if you are lifting at all get arms to be able to correct alignment and get correct geometry. Chas of MRT may have a suggestion as well and maybe the access to those other measurements from Bilstein

Uh oh, is this true? I was planning on installing these with my stock UCA's on the 5th or 6th perch. Chas, you got any input here? Would be great to know before several hours into the project on the daily driver.

 

[d_benet]

Thanks for the order! Glad to hear that you got them.

Are you referencing the lower bushings?

I was referencing both upper and lower bushings, but I spoke with Bilstein and decided to use the bushings they came with. They recommended going poly urethane everywhere else but the shocks since they are engineered to work with the hardness of the material they provide. They also told me the upper bushings are somewhere in between OEM rubber and poly urethane in hardness.

 

[DirtTimeAttack]

Uh oh, is this true? I was planning on installing these with my stock UCA's on the 5th or 6th perch. Chas, you got any input here? Would be great to know before several hours into the project on the daily driver.

It was close but it wasn't binding or anything. I was suggesting the arms for alignment correction if you are lifting, that was all. Arms aren't required.

 

[absalom]

Can we get some motherfudging ride reports? Jesum crow ....

 

[4Runner4TW]

Man, I've got brand new 5100s sitting on my floor...maybe I should have waited and got the 6112....f*ck...I hate being addicted to off roading/camping lol

 

[DirtTimeAttack]

Can we get some motherfudging ride reports? Jesum crow ....

I couldn't be happier with the ride quality on mine. Daily they feel great and I have finally taken them off road a little bit where they also felt awesome for the things that I use the vehicle for. I mostly was doing higher speeds on fire type roads with ruts and bumps. My build is more a "prerunner" style build so higher speeds is more my focus, which I am thinking your build is the same absalom. I know you have mentioned lower CG and everything. I also did a few mild climbs and crawls and it all felt great! Vehicle always felt comfortable and in control. I was able to get it to rotate really well too for sliding and transitioning into corners, seriously had a blast.

If you find me on instagram "JohnBurrowsRacing" you can see a little clip of me driving a part of the road.


Got a few photos out of that day too

 

[bramuno]

When I first installed the coils I still had the OEM UCA in place and at full droop the spindle/arm were very very close to the coil spring. I would say if you plan to run stock height on them you'll be fine, but if you are lifting at all get arms to be able to correct alignment and get correct geometry. Chas of MRT may have a suggestion as well and maybe the access to those other measurements from Bilstein

You won't need arms to clear coils at the highest setting. Bilstein designs all ride height adjustable shocks to clear at all ride heights and cause no interferences with anything. Put those suckers at the highest setting and use that 2.3" lift!!!

 

[DirtTimeAttack]

Yeah purely a recommendation not a requirement