Off-roading Tips
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gotmud?13
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hey all. great thread. it has helped me out a LOT. on e of the pressing issues i have and also have a great fear of, is recovery. winches dont do everything they say they do. there are more forces holding a mired (stuck) rig down than you would expect. PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE, and take it into account next time you are wheelin and get stuck... thanks,
Jake Engel
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Recovery/index.html
Jake Engel
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Recovery/index.html
off roading
Very helpful tips you got there.
I think the most important part is to also make sure that you drive with mud terrain tires to ensure better grip and smoother driving off road
Very helpful tips you got there.
I think the most important part is to also make sure that you drive with mud terrain tires to ensure better grip and smoother driving off road
MikesToy
Banned
First, drive slow. Expect some ice on the road. Even tho if you don't see it, you will eventually run into some patches of ice. If you feel that you're about to slide before the whistles and bells ring, downshift one gear or two pending how bad the road is. :nono: DO NOT slam on your brakes, just step on them as you normally would, the ABS and VSC will do the rest. On intersections where you have to run a yellow/red light, RUN thru it b/c you will not be able to stop on a dime. Don't worry, the other vehicles on the other side cannot pull up that fast.
Best time to practice is late at night when no one is around the road. Once you get the hang of it, driving in snow is easy.
Carl_G
Member
Driving in snow
OK I learned the hard way and here is some of what I learned:
1. It doesn't matter how capable the vehicle is, driver error can cause problems.
2. Walk the area first before you drive it. Although the snow all looked the same I had the driver wheels on hard ground and the passenger wheels on compacted snow. All 4 tires were spinning in 4-LO with diff-lock. So the ATRAC was trying to help but not enough traction anywhere. Shovelling under the skidplates only caused the passenger side to sink lower.
3. Not being careful can be expensive. $90 for the towing bill.
I know it doesn't look like it's that stuck but believe me it was!
Some people offered to help pull it out but no one really was confident with it so we decided to pay the tow bill and get it out professionally rather than have a chain snap and break a tailgate window or something.
OK I learned the hard way and here is some of what I learned:
1. It doesn't matter how capable the vehicle is, driver error can cause problems.
2. Walk the area first before you drive it. Although the snow all looked the same I had the driver wheels on hard ground and the passenger wheels on compacted snow. All 4 tires were spinning in 4-LO with diff-lock. So the ATRAC was trying to help but not enough traction anywhere. Shovelling under the skidplates only caused the passenger side to sink lower.
3. Not being careful can be expensive. $90 for the towing bill.
I know it doesn't look like it's that stuck but believe me it was!
Some people offered to help pull it out but no one really was confident with it so we decided to pay the tow bill and get it out professionally rather than have a chain snap and break a tailgate window or something.
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Mr. Leary
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Tornadom
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I see this thread was brought back up from the dead by a spammer, but nevertheless it gives me a chance to read it and add some.
1). know your limits as a driver. 9 times out of 10 your vehicle has higher limits than you do.
2). practice in the safest environment you can, with more experience people surrounding you if possible
3). have a backup plan. Maybe you only make it 35 miles in on your 70 mile out and back trail excursion... be sure you can either survive until help arrives, or be able to get back out
4). food and water. I have a fast metabolism, so I am always eating and drinking. I make no exception on off-road trips. Be sure to carry your trash back out, or dispose of it in proper trail head receptacles.
1). know your limits as a driver. 9 times out of 10 your vehicle has higher limits than you do.
2). practice in the safest environment you can, with more experience people surrounding you if possible
3). have a backup plan. Maybe you only make it 35 miles in on your 70 mile out and back trail excursion... be sure you can either survive until help arrives, or be able to get back out
4). food and water. I have a fast metabolism, so I am always eating and drinking. I make no exception on off-road trips. Be sure to carry your trash back out, or dispose of it in proper trail head receptacles.
810moto
New member
well i found this on another site but it is most certainly worth checking out. great specs and tips on recovery equipment.
Pirate4x4.Com - Extreme Four Wheel Drive
Pirate4x4.Com - Extreme Four Wheel Drive
RpzInc
New member
I learned this in a 2wd truck but it wokrs with unlocked 4wd trucks as well. if you come to a point where a rear spinning tire is keeping you stuck, try using the e-brake 1 click at a time with steady increase until the other wheel gets power. it doea wear your rear pads fast but in an emergency its a life saver.
nevada
Senior Member
ive done that before. it actually allowed me to make it up a climb I never should have been able to. it was crazy.
I thought of something recently, and more along an extreme situation.
to use logs/limbs in place of straps or chains.
im thinking more if you're trying to use a high lift or come-a-long to get unstuck, but don't have enough cable to reach a good tree.
you could find a length of tree or branch, and using your belt, shoe laces, rope or whatever else you may have to secure it. it might be JUST enough to get you out the that predicament.
I once used several lengths of chain, and a couple small trees as levers to pull my truck out. not in the way I was describing above, as I had no mechanical pulling devices, nor any other vehicles. it was some full on MacGyver shit...
CAN-03runner
New member
Are you saying that you use a small tree or branches as a catapult....? In that you bend them down, tie them up to the truck and let go of the branches and then the pull back force of the branches might give you just enough of a tug to help you along. Interesting.
nevada
Senior Member
not exactly. i'll see if I can come up with some in mspaint that shows what I did.
it may be a couple days..
nevada
Senior Member
nevada
Senior Member
I thought of something else ive encountered on the trail.
when you get stuck attempting to pull out another vehicle. now both are stuck, and the strap is tight.
hopefully you have a second strap..
connect it to along side the tight strap, and try to do it in such a way that you get as much slack out.
then using a shovel, or high light handle, slide it between the straps start twisting the straps together. as they twist, they will get shorter, ONE of the rigs will move.
use caution, as the shovel will have a lot of tension against it, if you let go, it will spin....violently.
it can be a bit dangerous, but may be just enough to get you unstuck.
at least enough so you can reposition a vehicle.
when you get stuck attempting to pull out another vehicle. now both are stuck, and the strap is tight.
hopefully you have a second strap..
connect it to along side the tight strap, and try to do it in such a way that you get as much slack out.
then using a shovel, or high light handle, slide it between the straps start twisting the straps together. as they twist, they will get shorter, ONE of the rigs will move.
use caution, as the shovel will have a lot of tension against it, if you let go, it will spin....violently.
it can be a bit dangerous, but may be just enough to get you unstuck.
at least enough so you can reposition a vehicle.
CAN-03runner
New member
I think I get it now. And it quickly reminded me of this recovery video.
Russian fishermen caught the car on Lake Baikal in 2013 - YouTube
Russian fishermen caught the car on Lake Baikal in 2013 - YouTube
KidVermicious
New member
this is crude, and the distances arent to scale, but I think you get the idea.
That could work - you'd want the short side of each log closer to the truck for maximum leverage.
nevada
Senior Member
yes, it DID work.
agreed, they were a bit closer, like I said, it wasn't to scale.
but, its not like we have a choice where the trees grow tho
things worked out just right for it to work that time.
KidVermicious
New member
Oh, I didn't get that part. Sorry!
