silver4est
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I'd remove the tape quickly after painting so the drain holes don't get clogged up
Please rinse out your frames...
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Scramble
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So I just ordered this from Eastwood, see codes for discounts. Eastwoods prices were better than any online store. Three cans should do both frame rails.
http://www.eastwood.com/internal-fr...e=&network=g&gclid=CJuyyeqj1csCFUEfhgod1GAJ-Q
I'll probably go with POR15 to do the outside.
http://www.eastwood.com/internal-fr...e=&network=g&gclid=CJuyyeqj1csCFUEfhgod1GAJ-Q
I'll probably go with POR15 to do the outside.
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Bry838
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Smart man! I too think the eastwoods products are the way to go to combat the internal portions of the frame!
MattJakobs
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Here's an example of the sand that I got out of one frame rail today. This is after putting the hose in at the rear for about 30 seconds. This also my 5th or 6th time washing out my frame since said incident.
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This is all due to this incident back in January.
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This is all due to this incident back in January.
<a href="http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/mattjakobo/media/131_zpsmayagozu.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o748/mattjakobo/131_zpsmayagozu.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 131_zpsmayagozu.jpg"/></a>
Stuck the hose in my frame today and surprisingly nothing came out except clean water. It'd be cool if my frame really is that clean, but Im betting the dirt is just caked onto the metal and will need more than just a bit of running water to break it loose…
After finding a spot on my rocker panel where it feels like I could push right through it with my thumb last week, I'm realizing I really need to start thinking about rust repair and prevention if I want to prevent his truck from becoming a rust bucket. Its currently at 372,000 km and is rock solid mechanically. I'd hate for it to get killed by rust rather than actually wearing out.
After finding a spot on my rocker panel where it feels like I could push right through it with my thumb last week, I'm realizing I really need to start thinking about rust repair and prevention if I want to prevent his truck from becoming a rust bucket. Its currently at 372,000 km and is rock solid mechanically. I'd hate for it to get killed by rust rather than actually wearing out.
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T4R2014
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I'd be hitting the frame rails for minutes at a time with a pressure washer. After that, I highly recommend injecting the piss out of the frame with Fluid Film or used motor oil. I'm not risking painting over a blob of sand and silt with that Eastwoods stuff. Maybe on a truck from out west once I rinse the hell out of the frame, but the thought of spraying a paint over who the hell knows what in the inside of a nearly twenty year-old boxed frame from the northeast sounds scary as hell.
MattJakobs
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Mind explaining the motor oil to me?
gamefreakgc
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Yeah I just have to dodge huge fissures in the ground on my way to work, no big deal.
The low humidity and no snow except high elevations is nice, keeps metal dry and doesn't have salt on the roads. If someone's car rusts around here it is solely due to neglect, as in never washed the car once in 20 years sort of neglect (except for Dodge trucks, those rust even out here!).
T4R2014
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Notice vehicles with oil leaks. The places where oil runs are very clean underneath that oily mess. Overseas, spraying the underside of vehicles with oil has been done for decades. Ask some mechanics of Caribbean background(I know quite a few), and they will often tell you that back home it was common practice to spray vehicles underneath with used oil in order to protect them from the salty conditions of the seaside. This is also commonly done in South America and Asia. Here is one example. I also believe that [MENTION=45027]fightman80[/MENTION] can attest to the oil undercoating. His build is an excellent testament to its effectiveness.
MattJakobs
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Interesting, thanks for the sharing. I've heard of using stuff like cooking spray but never used oil. Bummer that I just recently did an oil change and recycled my oil away.
So this would more or less be me pouring and spraying oil in and around my frame/underbody and anything of concern?
T4R2014
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The best way would be a cheap harbor freight spray gun. If you don't have access to that, then a garden sprayer. I just had a thought, but maybe a cheap electric paint gun? You will get drips for a few days, but it will stop.
Scramble
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Holy Crap! I used take my truck on the beach when I lived on Long Island but I would never take it into the ocean! Salt water & electrical parts don't mix! LOL
Scramble
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Yea man, this isn't as exciting as mods but it needs to be done. I found a little surface rust spot on the bottom of the DS rear door last summer. I hit it with sand paper, primer & touch up paint.
Stick your finger in the holes along the sides of the frame rails & feel along the bottom. I have 1.5 hrs of hose water in both sides & there's still crap in there.
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Scramble
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Yeah I just have to dodge huge fissures in the ground on my way to work, no big deal.
The low humidity and no snow except high elevations is nice, keeps metal dry and doesn't have salt on the roads. If someone's car rusts around here it is solely due to neglect, as in never washed the car once in 20 years sort of neglect (except for Dodge trucks, those rust even out here!).
LOL, when those faults open up & I'm sure you're happy to be in a 4Runner for those detours.:lookout:
silver4est
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does spraying oil on the rusted areas prevent rust from spreading?
i'd still treat with eastwood products and then fluidfilm or oil over top after its had 60 days to cure
i'd still treat with eastwood products and then fluidfilm or oil over top after its had 60 days to cure
Scramble
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Forget about the oil for now, you can do that last. The inside of the frame needs to be totally clean & dry & you spray the Eastwood rust encapsulator in there. Then paint the outside with the rust encapsulator of your choice & then chassis paint over that. Fluid film & oil will not stop rust. You can use them after the previous steps.
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Nope, eastwood, paint & then fluid film or oil.
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MattJakobs
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This was very unintentional haha, I could only hope no one would do this on purpose. This was shot from our hotel window and this was our parking lot. The night before, there was nothing but 20-some foot swells turned out parking lot into this washing machine. So far, no problems besides being very dirty and sand filled. I've since removed my skids to make sure under there was good, need to do my gas tank skid when I have time too
Just thinking out loud here... [MENTION=7105]Scramble[/MENTION] and others....
If you spray water from a garden hose in the frame holes/openings... would any of that water be trapped between the path of entry and exit? If so, that trapped moisture would only increase rust.
Is that not a risk?
If you spray water from a garden hose in the frame holes/openings... would any of that water be trapped between the path of entry and exit? If so, that trapped moisture would only increase rust.
Is that not a risk?
Scramble
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Yes, if there's still silt in there it will absorb the water & stay wet for a long time & accelerate rust. My silt was building up in front of the control arm mounts where the frame starts arching up & it feels pitted & flaky in that spot. I've managed to wash the silt forward where there was no internal rust & this weekend I plan on getting it all out & as soon as it's dry apply the Eastwood internal frame coating. It might take until the following weekend to apply the Eastwood but I want to do it right the first time so it will be good for a few more years.
If the inside of the frame is clean I don't see the water getting trapped anywhere but it will still be moist just like it would be on a rainy day. You could stick an air hose in there or driving it on the highway would help dry it out quicker.
