Rear sway or not with LT

[wfo9]

This is mainly a request for opinions from those with LT rear or experience running with and without sway-bars in extreme terrain.

I'm heading to Moab in a few weeks and trying to decide how to setup my truck fro those trails. The current plan is to do the trifecta + flat iron mesa and some other stuff. It should be challenging. I've never been, so pretty excited.. Also never experienced that type of surface, so plenty to learn. Will hopefully post plenty of pics and vids....

So,
I have a disconnect setup for the front and I basically never run the front connected off-road (can't stand it on). For the rear, I always have extended links and sometimes run with or without it. I like things about it in both configurations.

Without the rear sway on it has really good articulation and endless traction. However, side hill situations can feel a little tippy and there seems to be more pucker moments.

With the rear sway on it still has decent articulation, just not quite as much. And the body feels a little more controlled with fewer pucker moments.

I've done about 50/50 on my local trails and think I prefer it off overall, but not sure what would be the best choice for moab.. Looking for some input and opnions... BTW, I will run it on the road portion of the trip...

 

[marshal]

I would really look into running something like an Antirock in the rear. It would help the capability of your truck substantially. A quad cool suspension benefits from having a swaybar connected.

 

[wfo9]

I would really look into running something like an Antirock in the rear. It would help the capability of your truck substantially. A quad cool suspension benefits from having a swaybar connected.

Definitely won't have time to get that done..LOL

Just out of curiosity, what makes the Antirock so special besides being adjustable. The stock swaybar with the extended links is pretty compliant...

 

[BLACK-FL4RUNNER]

No sway bars for max flex! It's moab.

The antirock setup is nothing magical. It's just an adjustable setup that lets you fine tune the stiffness, allowing for near full flex but still limiting somewhat.

YMMV

 

[marshal]

Definitely won't have time to get that done..LOL

Just out of curiosity, what makes the Antirock so special besides being adjustable. The stock swaybar with the extended links is pretty compliant...

The Antirock moves from sway bar to full on torsion bar. It is adjustable for resistance based on leverage, but the type of steel it's made from reacts to twisting differently based on force. Fast jerking movements like cornering it resists more than slow fluid movements like articulating. That way you can maintain road manors and achieve max useable articulation.

Assuming you had front and rear antirocks, the front and rear suspensions would work together, in concert. The effect is similar to how KDSS works in principle. As well, you might have hypothetically 14" of vertical travel, but 12 is only fully useful. The Antirock would only let you use usable travel.

I know it's kind of weird and hard to understand, but that's just how it works. Offroad torsion bars are awesome.

If you put two equal rigs side by side with long travel suspensions, one having no sway bars and one having front and rear Offroad torsion bars; the one with torsion bars would walk the one without in a heavy articulation setting, even with less total flex.

 

[wfo9]

The Antirock moves from sway bar to full on torsion bar. It is adjustable for resistance based on leverage, but the type of steel it's made from reacts to twisting differently based on force. Fast jerking movements like cornering it resists more than slow fluid movements like articulating. That way you can maintain road manors and achieve max useable articulation.

Assuming you had front and rear antirocks, the front and rear suspensions would work together, in concert. The effect is similar to how KDSS works in principle. As well, you might have hypothetically 14" of vertical travel, but 12 is only fully useful. The Antirock would only let you use usable travel.

I know it's kind of weird and hard to understand, but that's just how it works. Offroad torsion bars are awesome.

If you put two equal rigs side by side with long travel suspensions, one having no sway bars and one having front and rear Offroad torsion bars; the one with torsion bars would walk the one without in a heavy articulation setting, even with less total flex.

Some of that sounds a little Hocus Pocus, but I'm curious and I have felt some benefit to having a flimsy swaybar in the rear.... but mainly in off camber side hills.

I'm guessing I'll just keep trying it both ways until I figure out what I like best for sure.

 

[bimrunner]

I ran mine off in Moab. Yeah, I understand about the movement in off camber situations but I've gotten used to it. Max flex in Moab is mo-betta!!

 

[wfo9]

I ran mine off in Moab. Yeah, I understand about the movement in off camber situations but I've gotten used to it. Max flex in Moab is mo-betta!!

Appreciate the input.. and I will probably just take it...

I know it seems like an obvious choice, but what I don't think most people realize is that once you put on extended links and LT..., the stock rear sway bar is pretty darn compliant. Nothing like "no bar installed", but were talking maybe 1-2" difference in a full articulation scenario and it sort of helps even out the front and the rear. It's hard to explain how it feels, but clearly less ground pressure for traction when articulated (but a more planted feeling when you cant follow the fall line).

I clearly notice better overall traction with the rear swaybar off (rarely need the front locker), but then I was thinking traction is probably not much of a concern in Moab overall...

I'm just playing games in my head getting excited about the trip really.:wave:

I may go a day with and without and report back my findings, but I'm guessing off will still be the ticket.