Remote Oil Filter Relocation

[octanejunkie]

Thinking about doing this mod

Found a nice china special kit on Amazon with AN10 fittings installed.

I just need to get hose and AN10 hose fittings, like these 90-degree ones

Where have y'all relocated yours to, if you have?

 

[phattyduck]

Haven't done it on the 4Runner... but have on another car.

I never had luck with that style of hose end. I ended up paying up for Aeroquip push-lock stuff. Guaranteed not to leak at the hose-to-fitting joint. Then you just have to make sure your NPT joints don't leak... Though that one looks like they are o-ring style fittings to the adapter.

I like this for the oil filter adapter: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-23682/overview/ Don't scrimp on oiling parts... or you will be doing it over to fix problems.

If I was going to do it, I would run the filter back behind the motor/steering rack on the frame rail. It'll be a challenge to run the lines, but it will allow you to just drain right into a pan and not be in the way of any skid plates or anything.

-Charlie

 

[tarsun]

im the one with the filter behind the passenger headlight. It is awesome. I put a white Chinese food container under the filter to catch the drips when i change the oil.
At 1st i used the hoses and clamps from the kit which was a big mistake. The hoses could not take the pressure / heat and the hose clamp blew off on rt80. 7qts of oil gone in a few seconds....

The hoses were replaced with high temp / high pressure (low for hydraulics) hydraulic hose that can handle petroleum based oil. I also changed out the hose clamps.
after that though,
i love it being under the hood.

no mess.
can grab it with your hands.
can run a MUCH bigger filter. BOSCH D3500 (takes almost a qt to fill)
keeps oil a little cooler. (maybe)
no long extensions needed.
no need to remove any plastics or shields to get to it.

 

[Ehahn84]

I’ve been wanting to do this for years. Do you have a write up or any pics?

im the one with the filter behind the passenger headlight. It is awesome. I put a white Chinese food container under the filter to catch the drips when i change the oil.
At 1st i used the hoses and clamps from the kit which was a big mistake. The hoses could not take the pressure / heat and the hose clamp blew off on rt80. 7qts of oil gone in a few seconds....

The hoses were replaced with high temp / high pressure (low for hydraulics) hydraulic hose that can handle petroleum based oil. I also changed out the hose clamps.
after that though,
i love it being under the hood.

no mess.
can grab it with your hands.
can run a MUCH bigger filter. BOSCH D3500 (takes almost a qt to fill)
keeps oil a little cooler. (maybe)
no long extensions needed.
no need to remove any plastics or shields to get to it.

 

[sandracer33]

Filter relocation is a great mod, especially if you have the CS-144 alternator like I do. Like a couple of the guys have said, the adapters are OK, but save yourself the future issues and spend the extra money on quality lines and fittings. I've seen the cheap Chinese fittings split by just installing them. Not the kind of failure you want to have! I mounted my filter behind my ARB bumper on the core support. Makes oil changes a breeze!

 

[tarsun]

there are a few reasons i put it there.

 

[ZionXIX]

there are a few reasons i put it there.

Im intrigued by your modifications. Please go on....

 

[octanejunkie]

Filter relocation is a great mod, especially if you have the CS-144 alternator like I do. Like a couple of the guys have said, the adapters are OK, but save yourself the future issues and spend the extra money on quality lines and fittings. I've seen the cheap Chinese fittings split by just installing them. Not the kind of failure you want to have! I mounted my filter behind my ARB bumper on the core support. Makes oil changes a breeze!

That is one location I was considering, as well as what [MENTION=139000]phattyduck[/MENTION] recommended, on the frame rail behind the motor/steering rack

 

[MN4runnerman]

Hayden makes a kit part # 291. It comes with everything but the hoses. I like Hayden's transmission coolers and I have one of their electric fans on my jeep. I think the make good products.

 

[octanejunkie]

Hayden makes a kit part # 291. It comes with everything but the hoses. I like Hayden's transmission coolers and I have one of their electric fans on my jeep. I think the make good products.

I've used Hayden in the past too, good enough stuff. Kit #291

 

[tarsun]

That is pretty much what i used. The piece that comes off the engine can either come out the side or the top. You cant really tell from that picture. That will make the install even easier. I also ported the oil passages on both sides; they were a little rough.

 

[octanejunkie]

Went to my storage today to look for a few bits and found I had a few Derale remote oil filter kits like this left over from projects.

Just need a sandwich adapter like this one

And I was looking at this location for the remote mount

I figure the hoses could route back along the block and bellhousing then swoop away towards the frame. I'd fab up a bracket to support the hoses and mount it using the bolt that secures the other bracket visible right in front of the bellhosing bolt on the right.

Sure would make changing oil filters easier and it would be out of the way from road debris for the most part.

 

[tarsun]

i thought i responded as to why i placed it where i did.

but if it means anything:
1. i wanted to do as much as i could from the top, without having to go under the car.
2. i wanted it vertical but did not want to drill into the frame or fenders.
3. i had allot of room there since the airbox came out.
4. there were already threaded holes in the fender there.
5. easy to get it.

but thats just me.

one thing i will say is, USE HYDRAULIC high temp/high pressure petroleum safe hoses...

i used the hoses in the kit as well as the hose clamps.

as the hose heated up, it expanded and blew the hose clamp off. i lost about EIGHT QUARTS of OIL at 50PSI from the filter return side on RT80. WHAT A MESS.

next time i go to the car, i will take a look at what i used. it was about $50 for what i needed but WELL WORTH IT.

 

[01thunder]

what about the base at the filter location. what does it look like and how does it mount? photos?

 

[etc.]

there are a few reasons i put it there.

A bit off topic.

Why the ground from the intake to the firewall?

The catch can needs to be lower than the hoses. Once the vapors cool, it will need to flow into the catch can and not back into the pcv system.

A catch can can also be installed in place of the crank case vent hoses running into the air intake and creating an oily mess.