Sequoia in the 4Runner stable?

[TacoRunn0517]

One thing I am hoping, few years down the line, is that Toyota does something about the atrocious MPG of the 5.7L. I mean, good grief, all other big V8's get close to 20MPG. I know this is a sacrilege, but I wouldn't mind something like Ford's 3.5L Ecoboost in an LC chassis. It'll get 23MPG and have a ton of power.

I also know Toyota is looking to go all hybrid in a few years. Maybe that will be an option, too.

I've never been a MPG hunter. That being said, more and more people care about it. As long as whatever Toyota offers is low maintenance, I'm game.

 

[p nut]

I've never been a MPG hunter. That being said, more and more people care about it. As long as whatever Toyota offers is low maintenance, I'm game.

You’ve got a rig that gets at least decent mileage. Try living with a truck that gets 40% less efficiency (ie 12-13mpg). Not to mention range. Dismal MPG and they only put 26 gal tanks in them things.

Gas engines from most or all manufacturers these days are getting pretty efficient and reliable. This wasn’t the case a decade or two ago, but today, they’ll all go 200k+ without much fuss.

 

[TacoRunn0517]

You’ve got a rig that gets at least decent mileage. Try living with a truck that gets 40% less efficiency (ie 12-13mpg). Not to mention range. Dismal MPG and they only put 26 gal tanks in them things.

Gas engines from most or all manufacturers these days are getting pretty efficient and reliable. This wasn’t the case a decade or two ago, but today, they’ll all go 200k+ without much fuss.

Once again, I've never been one to hunt for MPGs. Everyone is different. I do more driving than majority people on T4R. If MPGs were a priority for me, I wouldn't have the 4Runner ha. I'd imagine by the time I'd be in a position to upgrade to a LC/Sequoia, Toyota would have changed their engine/tranny for the better. If they didn't, that would not be a deterrent for me.

 

[Thai]

You’ve got a rig that gets at least decent mileage. Try living with a truck that gets 40% less efficiency (ie 12-13mpg). Not to mention range. Dismal MPG and they only put 26 gal tanks in them things.

Gas engines from most or all manufacturers these days are getting pretty efficient and reliable. This wasn’t the case a decade or two ago, but today, they’ll all go 200k+ without much fuss.

Well, my 2008 Sienna with the reputable V6 (serviced regularly at Toyota) blew its connecting rod at 90k miles.

Needless to say, i am hesitant about anything going far without issues these days....

 

[p nut]

Well, my 2008 Sienna with the reputable V6 (serviced regularly at Toyota) blew its connecting rod at 90k miles.

Needless to say, i am hesitant about anything going far without issues these days....

I never said there aren't outliers. I remember my friend's 4Runner with a 22RE blew up at 150k miles. Those things were supposed to be bulletproof. Well, no such thing as a product with 0% failure rate.

But in general, modern engines just last longer. A relative is a general contractor who drive a LOT, and regularly takes his Sierra's (he's a GM guy) to over 200k before selling and buying new. There are some quirks here and there, but not with the engine. He usually sells to his workers, who proceed to drive it into the ground. Another friend with an F150 drove it to 250k before selling it. Still sees it roaming the local streets.

Sorry about the Sienna's engine. I hope ours will last much longer!

 

[careycrews]

Best Gen 4Runner for $5k

New Member - Not allowed to start a new thread yet - Hope I'm not jacking this thread.
I'm a 1st Gen Sequoia owner looking for a 2nd 4x4 and wanted a 4Runner.
Whats the best Gen for $5k? Will be on the pavement 90% of the time. No towing.
Thanks in advance!

 

[Thai]

Well, i must say that i am wrong about Sequoia. 2 weeks ago, i went to Toyota dealer for my Sienna and checked out a Sequoia Limited (2018). There was also a Land Cruiser near it.

The interior material quality overall definitely favors LC. There are lots of hard plastics in Sequoia (but soft where you actually touch; so, that was good).

The underside of LC is cleaner...and of course it has a rear axle vs. IRS. And yeah, i am sure that LC is built to a higher standard.

But damn, the interior space on the Sequoia is just HUGE! It makes the LC feel like a compact SUV next to it. Tons of shoulder and leg room! 3rd row rivals my minivan! (LC, in contrast, even the 2nd row legroom is a joke! Don’t even mention the 3rd row...piss poor!)

You get the same JBL system in the LC in the Sequoia...which is a big plus for me because the JBL system in both of these SUVs sounds great!

Of course, the whole entertainment system outside that of the JBL system is pure 2008...in other words, badly outdated.

But, unlike 4runner, Sequoia has all the newest safety features including blind spot, radar cruise, LED headlights, cross-traffic, etc..

The other bad thing about Sequoia is its dismal fuel economy...13/17 (regular gas). (LC is 13/18, regular gas.)

Sequoia still uses the 6-speed automatic tranny with the 5.7 engine. (LC uses 8-speed tranny instead.)

There have been some failures reported with the 8-speed tranny in the LC...more so than the old 6-speed...so, Sequoia having the 6-speed may not be a bad thing.

Sequoia does NOT have CRAWL, lockers, KDSS, or multi-terrain select. So, i am sure that LC will eat it alive in off-road conditions. But it does have Multi-mode 4wd and standard fare ATRAC. (So, i am mainly impress with it from a family point of view.)

In conclusion, i stand corrected on the Sequoia. Pretty damn nice SUV!

 

[Thai]

Oh, and I found this tidbit on Sequoia:

“The front and rear differentials are larger for added strength and measure 8.7 inches in diameter (front) and 10.0 inches (rear).”

What are the differential sizes for the 4runner?? LC??