Skip 5k mile service?

[travelintony]

I've got a 2 month old TRD with 4700 miles on it, I was thinking about making an appointment but I'm going to skip it as well. There is no need to waste time sitting around over there for nothing.
I will do the 10K though for the free oil change.

 

[krob5697]

I am not sure if this is a "Toyota" thing or a local dealership thing but my dealer offered a "lifetime engine guarantee". I asked if that meant that if my engine blew up at 200K, would they replace it for free. Their reply was that they would provided I brought it to them every 5k for the first 25k. So, I figured that if the only requirement for me to meet this lifetime guarantee was to bring it to them 5 times, I would consider that inconvenience a cheap insurance for possible future use if I needed it.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

I am not sure if this is a "Toyota" thing or a local dealership thing but my dealer offered a "lifetime engine guarantee". I asked if that meant that if my engine blew up at 200K, would they replace it for free. Their reply was that they would provided I brought it to them every 5k for the first 25k. So, I figured that if the only requirement for me to meet this lifetime guarantee was to bring it to them 5 times, I would consider that inconvenience a cheap insurance for possible future use if I needed it.

All of the so called "lifetime" Toyota warranties that I've read about require you to have ALL maint/repair work done by a Toyota dealership for the life of the vehicle.

I would be leery of any dealer that pitched a "lifetime" offer that only required 5 visits(every 5K) for the first 25K miles. Read the fine print.

 

[e60ral]

It doesn't apply to the OP's question, but for other people reading the warranty statement make sure you don't miss their use of "solely" in that statement. You don't need to go to a shop, but always keep records even when you service your vehicle yourself

They can't deny a warranty claim solely because you don't have records, but if there is other evidence and you can't demonstrate otherwise they can fight it. For example, if someone has major sludge problems and the only documentation they have is from 1 oil change 60k miles ago that's a claim that is probably getting denied.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

It doesn't apply to the OP's question, but for other people reading the warranty statement make sure you don't miss their use of "solely" in that statement. You don't need to go to a shop, but always keep records even when you service your vehicle yourself

They can't deny a warranty claim solely because you don't have records, but if there is other evidence and you can't demonstrate otherwise they can fight it. For example, if someone has major sludge problems and the only documentation they have is from 1 oil change 60k miles ago that's a claim that is probably getting denied.

Correct. Record the mileage, save the receipts, then there is little left for a claim to be denied.

 

[61hawk]

Okay I'm confused. On my 5K service they changed my oil and rotated my tires. On my 10K service they rotated the tires only. Am probably going to go in for my 15K service in the next week or two and they'll change the oil and rotate the tires.

 

[jafrush]

Okay I'm confused. On my 5K service they changed my oil and rotated my tires. On my 10K service they rotated the tires only. Am probably going to go in for my 15K service in the next week or two and they'll change the oil and rotate the tires.

Everything I have from Toyota with their "toyocare" thing says 5K is tires rotation and fluid checks only (and checking the driver floor mat installation, lol), unless you've been towing or other hard use. It says 10K is first oil.

I'll spend some time Sunday morning looking over everything on the truck, and assuming everything looks good I'm skipping and just going in at 10K.

 

[e60ral]

^^ if you idle a lot or drive in dusty conditions most of the time the maintenance plan calls for oil change at 5k (as well as lubricating the propeller shaft and some other items). At 10k it calls for an oil change if it was not done at 5k. 10k is the typical interval, but the first change at 5k is also per their maintenance schedule if those conditions applied.

They changed mine at 5k because I idle a lot at jobsites

 

[jafrush]

^^ if you idle a lot or drive in dusty conditions most of the time the maintenance plan calls for oil change at 5k (as well as lubricating the propeller shaft and some other items). At 10k it calls for an oil change if it was not done at 5k. 10k is the typical interval, but the first change at 5k is also per their maintenance schedule if those conditions applied.

They changed mine at 5k because I idle a lot at jobsites

Only been in dust/dirt about 4-5 times now. Don't know if that counts as a lot, I mean it's probably more than most people who buy these things, but it doesn't seem like often to me.

I was going to send you a FB message; don't know if you saw, but Grand Overland posted up the next trail ride. I think I broke their registration form though.

 

[korborh]

The service adviser initially put down oil change for mine at 5k. I had to remind and point him to the maintenance book that oil change is at 10k not 5k. You have to be vigilant as these guys really are not sure what they are doing or talking about.
Also good idea to do a good check of the vehicle and the oil before leaving there. Screw-ups are not uncommon.

 

[e60ral]

The service adviser initially put down oil change for mine at 5k. I had to remind and point him to the maintenance book that oil change is at 10k not 5k. You have to be vigilant as these guys really are not sure what they are doing or talking about.
Also good idea to do a good check of the vehicle and the oil before leaving there. Screw-ups are not uncommon.

Actually, 5k is what the maintenance schedules says for dusty driving and seeing that your location is Arizona I bet they default to assume dusty conditions

(and getting an early oil change on a new engine is never a bad idea)

 

[1engineer]

Actually, 5k is what the maintenance schedules says for dusty driving and seeing that your location is Arizona I bet they default to assume dusty conditions

(and getting an early oil change on a new engine is never a bad idea)

...except your engine already had an oil change at the Tahara plant before you even got it. It was tested, ran, drained and refilled way before it got to you.

Arizona is no more dusty than anywhere else. They default for lower mileage changes so they can make more money. Simple.

 

[e60ral]

...except your engine already had an oil change at the Tahara plant before you even got it. It was tested, ran, drained and refilled way before it got to you.

Arizona is no more dusty than anywhere else. They default for lower mileage changes so they can make more money. Simple.

i didn't say it was necessary, i said it wasn't a bad idea (i.e. it doesn't hurt anything), the break in period continues after it leaves the plant and while i'm sure they have sufficient failure analysis to show that they have captured all the shavings and contaminants in that first flush they may not be using the same rate as the manufacturer that i want as the owner

(and my dealership did mine at cost, is that not typical?)

 

[korborh]

It can be a bad idea because the chances of screw-up changing oil and filter on this vehicle are high - given the more detailed procedure.

What I am saying is to pay attention as the SA is not looking out for you or your vehicle - it is ignorance and/or money. So best to read the manual and follow the manufacturer recommendations.