Sonoran Steel, Metal Tech, Toytech Upper/Lower Rear Links

Sonoran Steel Panhard bar

The 5th gen is nothing like the 3rd gen. So this thread really is not going to help much. If you want to run our KDSS Trac/PanHard bar all of your links must be stock length. Or it will not work. The bar delivers extreme articulation with the KDSS system and we have custom made Radflo shocks that utilized fully the extra down travel.

There is a thread about it in the 5th gen section.
 
The 5th gen is nothing like the 3rd gen. So this thread really is not going to help much. If you want to run our KDSS Trac/PanHard bar all of your links must be stock length. Or it will not work. The bar delivers extreme articulation with the KDSS system and we have custom made Radflo shocks that utilized fully the extra down travel.

There is a thread about it in the 5th gen section.

Yep, I mistakenly posted this here as it was linked from a 5th gen thread. I have actually followed your 5th gen thread since the beginning. Does that mean the panhard bar wouldn't work on a completely stock truck then? Since my understanding is the extended links just put the rear axle back in its stock location? If you want you can reply in my 5th gen thread post: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/202651-axle-shift-4.html#post3278318
 
What I don't understand about some of the new RLCA products is that the Currie Johnny Joint has very little room around it within the Toyota brackets for it to rotate much. It'll hit the side of the brackets pretty quickly because the joint itself is so wide. So then you're not fully utilizing the joint's ability to rotate and you might just be subtracting from the advantage of the flex of rubber joints at both ends.

I'm seeing this all over the place as I'm modeling for link mount reinforcements - a lot of these aftermarket joints dont have the room to twist/articualte in the stock mounts. Its a consideration that I'm surpised some of these link sellers aren't paying attention to...
 
I'm also surprised no one has commented about the driver's upper link binding against the panhard bar... 3rd gen axle moves unrestricted when you delete that redundant upper (but I'd beef the passenger upper link before I did that, personally)
 
Yep, I mistakenly posted this here as it was linked from a 5th gen thread. I have actually followed your 5th gen thread since the beginning. Does that mean the panhard bar wouldn't work on a completely stock truck then? Since my understanding is the extended links just put the rear axle back in its stock location? If you want you can reply in my 5th gen thread post: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/202651-axle-shift-4.html#post3278318

The KDSS trac bar will work on a stock truck. It will work on a truck with aftermarket links that are set to stock length. It also has to be installed in the stock mounts. It is very complicated and everything clears just fine, until you change something. But with 2-3" of lift, there is no need to lengthen you links. The lift is very minimal.
 
I'm also surprised no one has commented about the driver's upper link binding against the panhard bar... 3rd gen axle moves unrestricted when you delete that redundant upper (but I'd beef the passenger upper link before I did that, personally)

I'm seeing this all over the place as I'm modeling for link mount reinforcements - a lot of these aftermarket joints dont have the room to twist/articualte in the stock mounts. Its a consideration that I'm surpised some of these link sellers aren't paying attention to...

One of the reasons I really like my Front Range off Road Fabrication RLCA's.
Rear Links 6 by Sam Wright, on Flickr

Plenty of Room to twist!! :guitar3:
 
APOC Industries UCAs

I know its been a few years but I have found this thread really helpful when searching for new UCAs and thought I would chime in since I'm going with a brand that hasnt been mentioned.

I recently purchased a 2000 limited RustRunner (as I call it). It was cheap but has a huge rust problem on the frame that I've been slowly fixing with SafeTCap kits. While doing a little snow wheeling last month I snapped both of my rear shocks. While replacing them with bilstien 4600s I realized my passenger UCA was also snapped and my driver side UCA frame mount was completely rusted off the frame. Basically it has a really saggy rear end.

I am trying to keep my RustRunner stock for the forseeable future but decided to upgrade my UCAs instead of OEM. Since the passenger side will be a quick replacement I want something beefier that will hopefully allow me to limp to the grocery store and back until it warms up enough for me to drop my gas tank and handle the larger issue on the drivers side.

I just ordered some UCAs from APOC Industries, seeing as MetalTech doesnt appear to be making them any longer. They are adjustable on only one end and still utilize polyurethane bushings. At a decent price they seem to be a pretty good option with keeping things simple and upgrading at the same time. Obviously I have some work to do before fully testing them out but will try to post an update once its all back together.

<https://www.autorust.com/safe-t-cap-kits/>

<https://apocindustries.com/products/1996-2002-toyota-4-runner-adjustable-upper-trailing-arms?variant=40532883669053&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgEevHTqU6tI7jysj6DpzOTFW4hamBmcbS8pbVRxQpql_HWAakUw-w8aAjdxEALw_wcB>
 

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