sorry, but yes: another tire thread

[ddnww]

I think this is the hardest and scariest decision i have ever made.
I was dead set on the duratracs, but after reading many reviews
i am not so sure. I am reading alot about balancing and cupping issues,
as well as them being soft rubber compound tire and that not being good
in this 120 degree phoenix sun. I know they do good in snow, rain, mud,
highway, noise etc.

Im also considering the km2 and the maxxis bighorn mt. or possibly the hankook dynapro mt

Is there anybody who has the duratrac with over 20k miles on them
who can chime in?

Please help me make the right choice. I do not have money to waste
so i need to make the right choice the first time.

I will be running a 285/70/17

thanks ladies and gents.:redface:

 

[Cygan1008]

No experience with the dura tracks but I would not run the bighorns. Myself and several people I know did not get much life from those. If your set on a mud tire the km2, Cooper sst, and toto m/t are very good choices that will give you minimum problems. If you want something a little less expensive look into the Hercules Trail Digger I think they are somewhat limited on sizes but an excellent tire for the price and made by Cooper.

 

[ddnww]

No experience with the dura tracks but I would not run the bighorns. Myself and several people I know did not get much life from those. If your set on a mud tire the km2, Cooper sst, and toto m/t are very good choices that will give you minimum problems. If you want something a little less expensive look into the Hercules Trail Digger I think they are somewhat limited on sizes but an excellent tire for the price and made by Cooper.

thanks for the reply.. so out with the bighorn..

i want an agressive tire that will last and some decent fuel mileage.
i have the toyo at2 right now and its good but not agressive enough.
i have read people getting 60k out of the km2

 

[Speedy Gomez]

I love these one. :girl:

 

[JustSomeName]

check out the hankook dynapro MTs, read up on them a lot here, T120, FJCForums, and TacoWorld, a lot of yota heads seem to like the tires and say they perform pretty good on the street. And a lot more affordable than the KM2s too!

 

[Cygan1008]

Km2's are a good choice if you can spend the $. I would go with the Toyo's personally but honestly it would probably be a coin flip as to which is better. either is excellent. When I was running my f250 guys around here were using the Toyo M/t's and getting 60-70k constantly.

 

[ddnww]

I love these one. :girl:

how many miles you got on them?

 

[HokieRunner]

I think this is the hardest and scariest decision i have ever made.
I was dead set on the duratracs, but after reading many reviews
i am not so sure. I am reading alot about balancing and cupping issues,
as well as them being soft rubber compound tire and that not being good
in this 120 degree phoenix sun. I know they do good in snow, rain, mud,
highway, noise etc.

Im also considering the km2 and the maxxis bighorn mt. or possibly the hankook dynapro mt

Is there anybody who has the duratrac with over 20k miles on them
who can chime in?

Please help me make the right choice. I do not have money to waste
so i need to make the right choice the first time.

I will be running a 285/70/17

thanks ladies and gents.:redface:

First and foremost - what sort of use will the tire see? I've been running 285/70 Duratracs for a little over 10k miles now and really like them. When I got the tires it came down to the Discoverer STTs and the Duratracs. I've run them offroad on rocks (if you're running a lot of rocks, especially jagged rock - look at something w/ a tougher sidewall), mud, snow, rain, etc and they do great. Not too noisy on the highway and they're wearing well considering my driving style.

Pick the tire that will best fit your intended use. If you're just going for looks - be prepared to suffer a bigger MPG hit and more road noise if you go with a MT.

 

[ddnww]

check out the hankook dynapro MTs, read up on them a lot here, T120, FJCForums, and TacoWorld, a lot of yota heads seem to like the tires and say they perform pretty good on the street. And a lot more affordable than the KM2s too!

YES , im looking at the dynapro mt and have read good stuff, plus like you said theyre not badly priced. thanks.

Km2's are a good choice if you can spend the $. I would go with the Toyo's personally but honestly it would probably be a coin flip as to which is better. either is excellent. When I was running my f250 guys around here were using the Toyo M/t's and getting 60-70k constantly.

wow thats great mileage out of them.

First and foremost - what sort of use will the tire see? I've been running 285/70 Duratracs for a little over 10k miles now and really like them. When I got the tires it came down to the Discoverer STTs and the Duratracs. I've run them offroad on rocks (if you're running a lot of rocks, especially jagged rock - look at something w/ a tougher sidewall), mud, snow, rain, etc and they do great. Not too noisy on the highway and they're wearing well considering my driving style.

Pick the tire that will best fit your intended use. If you're just going for looks - be prepared to suffer a bigger MPG hit and more road noise if you go with a MT.

mostly highway, but definately will see their fare share of deep mud, sand, snow, rocks and very steep climbs.

 

[Troymclure]

For my next set of tires, Ill most likely go with the cooper stt's or the hercules trail diggers. Ive only heard great things about both, including a lot of reviews from reputable places, see link.

Hercules Trail Digger Tire Test - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

 

[JustSomeName]

YES , im looking at the dynapro mt and have read good stuff, plus like you said theyre not badly priced. thanks.

wow thats great mileage out of them.

mostly highway, but definately will see their fare share of deep mud, sand, snow, rocks and very steep climbs.

I've actually been shopping for a set of mud terrains for myself these past couple weeks. Just like you, I currently have ATs and wanted to change to MTs. And I literally JUST picked up a set this morning.

Through my research, I used a few sources to compare the tires with.

Offroaders.com is a site that has reviewed dozens of MTs & ATs, they do their own personal reviews for the site as well as a forum where users can contribute to reviews as well

Main site for reviews: Off Road Tire Guide for Mud and All Terrain Tires - Offroaders.com

User generated reviews: Reviews - Mud Tires, MT, Aggressive Tread Tire Reviews Reviews by Offroaders.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Review Engine Powered by ReviewPost

FourWheeler.com has also done a lot of comparison articles for MTs & ATs, here are the 2 longer articles they've written for tire comparisons
Off Road Tire Performance Guide - Jp Magazine
The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine

And finally, TireRack has a comparison chart for MT/AT tires with customer surveys
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT

as you know, not all tires are made the same, some are better at certain terrains than others, so you really have to figure out what terrain suits your driving habits best. I daily drive my car and it stays on concret 90% of the time so having good on road performance was my number 1 priority. Followed my tread life, price, and of course all the other terrains, I ranked myself from most to least important: Snow, Trail/Dirt, Sand, Mud, Rocks.

Having said that, I dwindled down my choices to:
GoodYear Wrangler Kevlar MTR
Hankook DynaPro MT
BFGoodrich T/A Mud Terrain KM2
Nitto Trail Grapplers MT
Toyo Open Country MT

I ultimately chose the Hankooks, they were rated as a very good all around mud terrain that performed very well on the street and they were priced much cheaper than the other 4 options. The other 4 were all in the 280-330 range per tire while I found the Hankooks for $225 a tire. The one knock on them was people found them sometimes difficult to balance and that they wore off fairly quickly, but I don't drive much so I feel like I can get a good amount of life on them as long as I rotate them regularly. As for the balancing issue, it seems like it was an issue thats been resolved as I noticed the reviews mentioning that dated between 2007-2010, havent seen any recent issues regarding that.

Also, the Hankooks won in a mud terrain shootout from FourWheeler.com, beating out 3 of the 4 of the other tires I mentioned (no idea why they didnt have the Toyos in their rankings). That was probably the last article I read that finally convinced me to get them.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/w...tire-shootout-first-place-hankook-dynapro-mt/

And for reference sake, here's FourWheeler's top 10 rank in their MT shootout:
1. Hankook Dynapro MT
2. Good Year Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
3. Mickey Thomson Baja MTZ
4. Nitto Trail Grappler MT
5. Yokohama Geolandar MT
6. Pit Bull Rocker LT Radial
7. Interco Super Swamper TrXus
8. BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2
9. ProComp Xtreme Mud Terrain
10. Maxxis M8060 Trepador

Ultimately, you really can't go wrong with the 5 tires I picked, they're all from companies with great reputations and all make a quality product, they all have their pros & cons, but theyre all great all around tires compared to the dozens other out there that are cheaply made.

 

[ddnww]

For my next set of tires, Ill most likely go with the cooper stt's or the hercules trail diggers. Ive only heard great things about both, including a lot of reviews from reputable places, see link.

Hercules Trail Digger Tire Test - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

i would consider the hercules , they are priced great.. i would need to read about there tread life.

I've actually been shopping for a set of mud terrains for myself these past couple weeks. Just like you, I currently have ATs and wanted to change to MTs. And I literally JUST picked up a set this morning.

Through my research, I used a few sources to compare the tires with.

Offroaders.com is a site that has reviewed dozens of MTs & ATs, they do their own personal reviews for the site as well as a forum where users can contribute to reviews as well

Main site for reviews: Off Road Tire Guide for Mud and All Terrain Tires - Offroaders.com

User generated reviews: Reviews - Mud Tires, MT, Aggressive Tread Tire Reviews Reviews by Offroaders.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Review Engine Powered by ReviewPost

FourWheeler.com has also done a lot of comparison articles for MTs & ATs, here are the 2 longer articles they've written for tire comparisons
Off Road Tire Performance Guide - Jp Magazine
The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine

And finally, TireRack has a comparison chart for MT/AT tires with customer surveys
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT

as you know, not all tires are made the same, some are better at certain terrains than others, so you really have to figure out what terrain suits your driving habits best. I daily drive my car and it stays on concret 90% of the time so having good on road performance was my number 1 priority. Followed my tread life, price, and of course all the other terrains, I ranked myself from most to least important: Snow, Trail/Dirt, Sand, Mud, Rocks.

Having said that, I dwindled down my choices to:
GoodYear Wrangler Kevlar MTR
Hankook DynaPro MT
BFGoodrich T/A Mud Terrain KM2
Nitto Trail Grapplers MT
Toyo Open Country MT

I ultimately chose the Hankooks, they were rated as a very good all around mud terrain that performed very well on the street and they were priced much cheaper than the other 4 options. The other 4 were all in the 280-330 range per tire while I found the Hankooks for $225 a tire. The one knock on them was people found them sometimes difficult to balance and that they wore off fairly quickly, but I don't drive much so I feel like I can get a good amount of life on them as long as I rotate them regularly. As for the balancing issue, it seems like it was an issue thats been resolved as I noticed the reviews mentioning that dated between 2007-2010, havent seen any recent issues regarding that.

Also, the Hankooks won in a mud terrain shootout from FourWheeler.com, beating out 3 of the 4 of the other tires I mentioned (no idea why they didnt have the Toyos in their rankings). That was probably the last article I read that finally convinced me to get them.
Mud Tire Shootout First Place: Hankook Dynapro MT - Four Wheeler Magazine

And for reference sake, here's FourWheeler's top 10 rank in their MT shootout:
1. Hankook Dynapro MT
2. Good Year Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
3. Mickey Thomson Baja MTZ
4. Nitto Trail Grappler MT
5. Yokohama Geolandar MT
6. Pit Bull Rocker LT Radial
7. Interco Super Swamper TrXus
8. BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2
9. ProComp Xtreme Mud Terrain
10. Maxxis M8060 Trepador

Ultimately, you really can't go wrong with the 5 tires I picked, they're all from companies with great reputations and all make a quality product, they all have their pros & cons, but theyre all great all around tires compared to the dozens other out there that are cheaply made.

Wow,, what a great post. Very helpful and informative.. thanks for taking the time.

 

[JustSomeName]

i would consider the hercules , they are priced great.. i would need to read about there tread life.



Wow,, what a great post. Very helpful and informative.. thanks for taking the time.

no worries, my initial thoughts when I saw the thread was to give a smart ass "use the search tool!" response, but seeing that youre such a long time member, I thought I'd offer some actual help. I spent the better part of these past two 2 weeks researching (with spreadsheets, pivot tables, and everything!) and thought I'd share my findings.

 

[Nashvillerunner]

I've actually been shopping for a set of mud terrains for myself these past couple weeks. Just like you, I currently have ATs and wanted to change to MTs. And I literally JUST picked up a set this morning.

Through my research, I used a few sources to compare the tires with.

Offroaders.com is a site that has reviewed dozens of MTs & ATs, they do their own personal reviews for the site as well as a forum where users can contribute to reviews as well

Main site for reviews: Off Road Tire Guide for Mud and All Terrain Tires - Offroaders.com

User generated reviews: Reviews - Mud Tires, MT, Aggressive Tread Tire Reviews Reviews by Offroaders.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Review Engine Powered by ReviewPost

FourWheeler.com has also done a lot of comparison articles for MTs & ATs, here are the 2 longer articles they've written for tire comparisons
Off Road Tire Performance Guide - Jp Magazine
The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine

And finally, TireRack has a comparison chart for MT/AT tires with customer surveys
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT

as you know, not all tires are made the same, some are better at certain terrains than others, so you really have to figure out what terrain suits your driving habits best. I daily drive my car and it stays on concret 90% of the time so having good on road performance was my number 1 priority. Followed my tread life, price, and of course all the other terrains, I ranked myself from most to least important: Snow, Trail/Dirt, Sand, Mud, Rocks.

Having said that, I dwindled down my choices to:
GoodYear Wrangler Kevlar MTR
Hankook DynaPro MT
BFGoodrich T/A Mud Terrain KM2
Nitto Trail Grapplers MT
Toyo Open Country MT

I ultimately chose the Hankooks, they were rated as a very good all around mud terrain that performed very well on the street and they were priced much cheaper than the other 4 options. The other 4 were all in the 280-330 range per tire while I found the Hankooks for $225 a tire. The one knock on them was people found them sometimes difficult to balance and that they wore off fairly quickly, but I don't drive much so I feel like I can get a good amount of life on them as long as I rotate them regularly. As for the balancing issue, it seems like it was an issue thats been resolved as I noticed the reviews mentioning that dated between 2007-2010, havent seen any recent issues regarding that.

Also, the Hankooks won in a mud terrain shootout from FourWheeler.com, beating out 3 of the 4 of the other tires I mentioned (no idea why they didnt have the Toyos in their rankings). That was probably the last article I read that finally convinced me to get them.
Mud Tire Shootout First Place: Hankook Dynapro MT - Four Wheeler Magazine

And for reference sake, here's FourWheeler's top 10 rank in their MT shootout:
1. Hankook Dynapro MT
2. Good Year Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
3. Mickey Thomson Baja MTZ
4. Nitto Trail Grappler MT
5. Yokohama Geolandar MT
6. Pit Bull Rocker LT Radial
7. Interco Super Swamper TrXus
8. BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2
9. ProComp Xtreme Mud Terrain
10. Maxxis M8060 Trepador

Ultimately, you really can't go wrong with the 5 tires I picked, they're all from companies with great reputations and all make a quality product, they all have their pros & cons, but theyre all great all around tires compared to the dozens other out there that are cheaply made.

Wow great informative post! I will be subscribing to this.

I think if I had my opinion I would choose between the GY Duratrace, Hankook Dynapro MT and the Toyo Open Country MT. As I don't have any experience with any of these tires I have friends who have ran all of these and they are great. I currently have the Nitto Terra Grapplers and they are great but my next tires will be the Goodyear Duratrac.

 

[JustSomeName]

One more thing about the Hankooks, I always thought I wanted the BFG KM2s, but then I first saw the Hankooks from our very own [MENTION=4517]jediwebdude[/MENTION] and after seeing his build thread, I realized that they are some very good looking tires! It made it even better when I realized how many people liked them after researching them

 

[Nashvillerunner]

One more thing about the Hankooks, I always thought I wanted the BFG KM2s, but then I first saw the Hankooks from our very own [MENTION=4517]jediwebdude[/MENTION] and after seeing his build thread and they are some very good looking tires! It made it even better when I realized how many people liked them after researching them

I love the look of those. I know you have only had yours for a day or so but how is the road noise?? Quiet? I have also heard about the Fierce Attitude MT. I believe they are made by Cooper or Goodyear. You could also check those out. I have seen quite a few reviews of the Fierce tires and they say they are very quiet and handle great in the snow and rain. You can also check out the Kelly Safari TSR. It is made by Goodyear and very similar to the Duratrac. It is a little cheaper so you could possibly look into those also.

 

[Nashvillerunner]

Here is a pic of the Fierce Attitude MT and also the Kelly Safari TSR on an older 4runner.

 

[ddnww]

i think ive narrowed it down to

goodyear duratrac
bfg km2
hercules trail digger mt
hankook dynapro mt


i do mostly highway.. want good tread life, decent mpg,
do lots of wheelin . sand, lots of steep hills,some mud and some snow

and just want that aggresive 4x4 look.

 

[Speedy Gomez]

This Fierce Attitude MT looks like they have flowers on the side walls. Could it be a girl's tire?

 

[markaidan]

For my next set of tires, Ill most likely go with the cooper stt's or the hercules trail diggers. Ive only heard great things about both, including a lot of reviews from reputable places, see link.

Hercules Trail Digger Tire Test - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

Those are great tires! I run the Definity Dakota MT (285-75-16) and they have the same tread pattern as the Hercules. I bought my Dakotas at Pepboys - they run a buy 3 get 1 free every few months. I paid just under $600 out the door for an awesome set of 33" mudders.