"sport" Spoiler

I have an sr5 and have always seen the spoilers on the "sport" model as funny. This thread is not about how they look, but rather how useful they are. I was wondering if they actually do anything. To calculate down force the formula is L= 1/2 the coefficient of lift times the density of air, times the velocity squared, times the area. The coefficient of lift is .36 (I looked this up), the density of air is 1.2 kg/m^3 and area of the spoiler I gave a gracious 240 in^2. At 40 mph there would be 12 lbs of force, at 70mph 37 lbs of force, and at 100 75 lbs of force. So I guess my question is why? Next time I'm driving at 70 and need 40 lbs of down force I think I'm going to put a couple bricks in the back of my car and presto, rear spoiler!! For any aerospace majors out there, if you find I did something wrong I apologize and I will gladly take the criticism.

I'm going to be a mechanical engineer as my major so maybe i'll throw my weight. lol this may be boring so I'm sorry, in terms of racing you have three. you have the front splitter aiding steering and the rear spoiler and rear diffuser. the spoiler at can aid in turns by keeping the rear in check or adjust it for high speed and the same goes for the diffuser but the diffuser is not adjustable. in terms of fuel economy aerodynamics helps greatly. a smooth cut in the air means less resistance for the engine to fight when cruising, accelerating, etc. now on a SUV like the 4runner 4th gen I can mostly bet its there for looks (I want one on mine) but now its adding or reducing the aero drag on the SUV. I haven't seen any wind tunnel tests on a 4runner so I am not sure. plus with the addition of the roof rack it add more drag i think. to me it almost seems like a pick up bed with no bed cover. I'm sure someone here knows more about the spoiler and correct me if I am wrong. I wonder if there were mpg tests with and with out the spoiler? :bigok:
 
Has anyone else noticed that with the high bump spoiler that you can't put certain things on the roof racks without it hitting/resting on the spoiler? Even a ladder will be barely above the top of the spoiler and if you go over any bumps they'll touch. I do like how it keeps my rear window clean (rarely if ever use the wiper) but I don't like that it gets in the way of using the roof rack.
 
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I specifically looked for a 'runner without the spoiler for that reason. I ski a ton, and if I had gotten the spoiler I wouldn't be able to put my skis on the ski rack. as it is now, I can open the hatch with my skis on the rack and I get about a MM of clearance with the hatch open between the top of the hatch and the ski tips.
 
The hood scoop is for looks only, as is the spoiler. The spoiler does direct air down the glass which helps keep it cleaner, but it doesn't keep all the crap off. But I like the way it looks. Just like the Sequoia, I think they look naked without the spoiler.
 
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Both are definitely for looks. I have both the scoop and the spoiler, I really do like it with than without. I also feel it looks naked without the spoiler.
 
My Dad had an 04 without the spoiler and I have a 06 with a spoiler and like everyone else said, it keeps the the back window much cleaner and also keeps most of the exhaust out.
 
Here is a comparison between the two. First, the non "hump" spoiler titaniumsport posted....

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Here is a pic of my '07 Sport with the "hump" spoiler

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What is weird is that Leftyguns21 has a '08 UrbanRunner and it does not have the hump on the spoiler, so I don't know why some have the hump and some don't.

I haven't owned a 4Runner with the non-hump spoiler, so I can only speak from my own experience owning the hump spoiler. I can say with certainty, that the rear spoiler significantly decreases the amount of splash back on the rear window. I owned a Grand Cherokee with no spoiler and that rear window was next to impossible to see out of when driving in crappy conditions. I don't believe it serves any function beyond keeping the rear window clear while driving in adverse conditions. It also helps prevent snow from building up on the rear window while parked. Just my $0.02, but that has been my experience.
 
titaniumsport's spoiler is an aftermarket...the 3rd Brake Light is not OEM.

• 2003-2004 have the spoiler w/o the hump.
• 2005-2009 have the spoiler with the hump.

However...Urban Runners don't have the hump.
 
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titaniumsport's spoiler is an aftermarket...the 3rd Brake Light is not OEM.

• 2003-2004 have the spoiler w/o the hump.
• 2006-2009 have the spoiler with the hump.

However...Urban Runners don't have the hump.

then every 06-07 around here has aftermarket spoilers because they are all the "no-hump" spoiler. i started noticing the humped spoiler when the local dealership started getting 08's on the lot.

for every 06-09 4Runner i see here, maybe 1/10 have the hump.

i for one, am very glad South East Region Toyota's gave 06-07ish 4runners the no hump spoiler. i think the humped spoiler looks horrible. i have no way to comment on the difference between the two as far as keeping the window clean, but i can say that i dont usually notice the window becoming excessively dirty, but if it does i just use the rear windshield wiper. thats why it's there...
 
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Someone mentioned getting the "whub-whub" acoustic vibration when driving with the rear window open at highway speeds. I've only tried it once at various speeds, it was dead silent, no fumes, my dog just sat staring at the people behind me. I wonder if the spoiler makes it quiet? I have the non-hump.
 
Southeast Toyota (SET) is different from the rest of the country. SET doesn't use the OEM spoiler. They're installed at port and most have the "flat" spoiler. SET distributed 4Runners are also the ones that you'll find SR5 and Sport Editions readily available with leather.
 

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