Swap Rims From Taco to 4Runner

[NoDak]

here is the sitrep ...

20x7 rims on a LE and I need new tires. don't want the oem tires as they are ~$300, which I am not even going to entertain that idea.

recently swapped the 2016 Tacoma 17x7.5 oem rims to aftermarket.

I have been reading thru the following 2 threads all morning ...

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/153173-5th-gen-wheel-tire-thread.html

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/60772-20-inch-wheels-limited.html

and a lot of good info but the options within each are good 3rd choice options.

what I was hoping was to swap the Tacoma rims onto the LE.

Tacoma rim spec :

P265/65R17
17x7.5J
PCD : 139.7 (5.5in)
Inset : 30mm (1.18in)

edit : I think the backspace on the 17 are 5.5 or 4.5 not sure.

from what I can find the 17x7.5J rims that come on the 4runner are :

P265/70R17
17x7.5J
PCD : 139.7 (5.5in)
Inset : 15 (0.59in)

edit : forgot to add the backspace on the 4runer is 4.5 on 20x7 rims, 4.875 on the 17x7.5 rims and 4.5 on the 17x7 rims


from what I can tell all the oem rims have an inset of 15

what I am wondering is, will the Tacoma rim be a plug an play swap ?

or would I have to have a tire shop mount them to see if they clear the calipers on the 4runner.

any insight or help or website you can point me to do more research would be greatly appreciated.

my docs I am using for ref:

 

[ST1FLER]

 

[SecretSquirrel]

Those Sport wheels look better on the 4R than the Tacoma...

 

[Hellamatic]

You're overthinking this - why not just try sticking them on if you already have the Taco wheels sitting around?

 

[wfo9]

here is the sitrep ...

20x7 rims on a LE and I need new tires. don't want the oem tires as they are ~$300, which I am not even going to entertain that idea.

recently swapped the 2016 Tacoma 17x7.5 oem rims to aftermarket.

I have been reading thru the following 2 threads all morning ...

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/153173-5th-gen-wheel-tire-thread.html

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/60772-20-inch-wheels-limited.html

and a lot of good info but the options within each are good 3rd choice options.

what I was hoping was to swap the Tacoma rims onto the LE.

Tacoma rim spec :

P265/65R17
17x7.5J
PCD : 139.7 (5.5in)
Inset : 30mm (1.18in)

edit : I think the backspace on the 17 are 5.5 or 4.5 not sure.

from what I can find the 17x7.5J rims that come on the 4runner are :

P265/70R17
17x7.5J
PCD : 139.7 (5.5in)
Inset : 15 (0.59in)

edit : forgot to add the backspace on the 4runer is 4.5 on 20x7 rims, 4.875 on the 17x7.5 rims and 4.5 on the 17x7 rims


from what I can tell all the oem rims have an inset of 15

what I am wondering is, will the Tacoma rim be a plug an play swap ?

or would I have to have a tire shop mount them to see if they clear the calipers on the 4runner.

any insight or help or website you can point me to do more research would be greatly appreciated.

my docs I am using for ref:

If I'm reading it correctly (this term inset is not standard, but I'm assuming it is the same as + offset). You would have 5.4" of backspacing which is probably too much. You could add 1" wheel spacers and that would put them in the right place.

 

[NoDak]

You're overthinking this - why not just try sticking them on if you already have the Taco wheels sitting around?

I would if I had the tools to do it. I am a computer person by trade, not a mechanical person. I tried doing stuff years ago by myself (water heater) and what should have been a $100 swap, ended up costing almost $200 cause I keep screwing up. would have been cheaper just to pay someone to do it right the first time.

I know when its better to pay someone else to do it than for me to try.

as a last resort I can always take it to a shop and have them remove the oem rims and put the Tacoma's on and do a dry fit, but that will cost money. I just want to get my ducks in a row before spending money to confirm my research.

if these rims dont work my next option is to either try some 255/55R20 or 275/55R20, but then I would have to find a shop that would go outside specs of a tire on a 7" rim compared to a 7.5" rim.

 

[ST1FLER]

Im a computer geek and I can do a gear swap..... man up! Dont tell me you call AAA for a flat

 

[NoDak]

Im a computer geek and I can do a gear swap..... man up! Dont tell me you call AAA for a flat

don't get flats

 

[mattr]

Another computer guy here. Trust me - you'd rather be learning how to change a tire in your garage or driveway with ample time then you will in the rain or snow on the side of the highway out of cell service.

 

[Crusifix]

There is a reason why I always say.. As easy as changing a tire.

 

[NoDak]

so if the taco rims are 17x7.5 / 265-70-17 / 30mm offset

and the 4runner rims are 20x7 / 245-60-20 / 15mm offset

edit : nevermind I found a website to tell me what was noted before, I will need a 1" spacer.

Wheel-Tire size comparer - RIMSnTIRES.com

 

[NoDak]

If I'm reading it correctly (this term inset is not standard, but I'm assuming it is the same as + offset). You would have 5.4" of backspacing which is probably too much. You could add 1" wheel spacers and that would put them in the right place.

thank you for your insight

 

[NoDak]

well at least now I can use those 17's from the Tacoma instead of sitting in the shed collecting dust.

throw some std load dura tracs on them and be all set.

 

[pauldavis]

You can do it. It is really easy and if you have any issues you can post on this thread. I am sure people would be happy to help and quick to respond. someday you will get a flat. Now go get some practice! You will notice chest hair instantly growing as you start working on your 4runner.

 

[jwkilgore]

All these people cheerleading, "You can do it!!"... are you talking about simply taking a tire+wheel combo off and putting another on (i.e., same as replacing a flat with the spare on the side of the road), or are you talking about taking a tire off of one wheel and putting in on the other?

If the former, then yeah you can do it. This should be basic knowledge before people are allowed to drive. The kit is in the cargo area on the driver's side behind a removable plastic panel. Wear gloves so you don't get your hands dirty. If you want to make the job much easier buy a cheap electric impact wrench with a deep-well 21mm socket along with a decent floor jack and pair of jack stands. Check for sales at Harbor Freight or Northern Tool. You'll save lots of money over time by rotating your own tires. Much much easier than the plumbing required to replace a water heater.

But if you're talking about taking rubber off one wheel and stretching it over another, that's a whole other story. I've personally done it before, but I had access to a shop with the proper tools. I'd never attempt that in my driveway.

 

[NoDak]

what I am doing is taking a 2016 Tacoma 17x7.5J rim and will be putting it on a 2014 4runner LE (20x7J).

what I am doing is trying to save myself from buying new rims in addition to new tires.

I want to move down to a 17" tire so I can have a better selection of tires to choose from cause the 20" tires for the LE selection sucks in oem size (245-60 R20) and the cost of a oem size replacement is around $280 a tire compared to dura tracs in standard load in 265-70 R17 for around $170 each.

since the PCD is the same, just the offset and backspacing is different I can do a minor adjustment of adding a 1" spacer to make them fit on the 4runner.

now to just find a spacer to fit the 4runner to add 1"

my other option is to get some 255-55-20 tires to fit a 7" rim, but I was hoping to get some better snow tires for winter than just a all season tire.

 

[jwkilgore]

So I'm getting that you have your fully-assembled OEM wheel+tire on the vehicle. You also have access to a set of bare 17x7.5J rims from a Taco with no rubber. Now you're trying to figure out if everything will fit up before going to the time and expense of buying a set of 17" tires and having a tire shop mount them. Is that correct?

If so, I agree with you... that isn't a driveway project. Ignore the cheerleaders.

I guess you could mount the bare rims to get a feel (again, easier than changing a flat on the side of the road), but it looks like you already have your answer: it'll fit but you'll probably need 1" or so spacers.

 

[wfo9]

The OP does not have a rim with a tire on it to test fit... He has the rims and and is in need of tires. He is asking a legit question, is it worth his time to buy tires for those rims and get them mounted.

He did the right thing by asking and doing a little research first.

Instead of answering his question, everyone is telling him to go try it.

Like I said in my earlier response, the rims appear to have too much + offset (at over 5" it is going to most likely rub on the UCA, or worse).

Wheel spacers are an easy solution and are readily available.
Toyota Hub Centric Wheel Spacer Kit

I'm not sure if you can find ones that are smaller than 1.25".

These (1.25") would net out your backspacing at about 4.1, which will give the vehicle a slightly wider stance and should not cause any rubbing. Should look very good. However, you might experience a little contact at full lock turns, which could be easily resolved with a good alignment and pushing the fender liner forward a bit. My guess is there would be no rubbing at all. Really depends on the tire you get.

Ideally, I don't like running wheel spacers, but many people run these with no issues at all.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Those are the exact same wheels that came stock on my 2003 4runner.

 

[Large Saints Fan]

Taco wheels on my t4r!!! Check my sig pic.