The 3rd Gen All Questions Allowed Thread

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I was replacing the front brake hoses and ran into a weird issue. Here’s what both hoses looked like after 270K.
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A fitting on one of the new hoses wouldn’t seat into the backing plate that the spring clip goes into. The fitting just didn’t seem to be machined right. Had to back to the store to exchange it, and the next one was fine.

It was a centric brand hose. Ive only replaced a handful of brake hoses over the years and am wondering if this is common?
 
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Without a code it will be hard to pinpoint what's going on. Its a new to you truck. so general maintenence would be a high prority. Was the maintenance up to date from the buyer? Plugs and wires, cleaning the maf, replacing fluids, replacing the lower ball joints if they havent been replaced in the last 100k or so. greasing the drive shafts joints. These trucks will last a long time with scheduled maintenance.

Goode info in the following thread.
3rd Gen FAQ, Tutorials, & Documentation Reference v2 - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum

I'm planning on heading down to Autozone again today to get a code. Haven't started the truck yet today though so maybe the CEL is off again. Thankfully PO was pretty good about regular maintenance. He did the CAT, O2 sensor, and radiator all within the last year. Not too sure what could be going on with my truck but hopefully once I have a code I'll be able to nail down a solution.

I'll surely be back for more help once I know the code!
 
I'm planning on heading down to Autozone again today to get a code. Haven't started the truck yet today though so maybe the CEL is off again. Thankfully PO was pretty good about regular maintenance. He did the CAT, O2 sensor, and radiator all within the last year. Not too sure what could be going on with my truck but hopefully once I have a code I'll be able to nail down a solution.

I'll surely be back for more help once I know the code!

like @ Endlessbockdes said a torque app and obd-II scanner would make life easier.
 
Getting Roadtrip Ready

Hello everyone!

Quick question. I'm planning on driving from St. George, UT to Boulder, CO this summer - about 650 miles. I recently bought a 2000 4Runner and I want to make sure it's ready to do the drive. The timing belt, radiator, water pump, etc. have all been replaced within the last ~30k.

The main thing I'm worried about is my valve cover gasket. It's seeping currently and I can smell oil burning when I turn off the car most times. Is that something I should take care of before my trip?

Please let me know anything else I should make sure to check/know about these trucks on roadtrips!

Pete
 
Hello everyone!

Quick question. I'm planning on driving from St. George, UT to Boulder, CO this summer - about 650 miles. I recently bought a 2000 4Runner and I want to make sure it's ready to do the drive. The timing belt, radiator, water pump, etc. have all been replaced within the last ~30k.

The main thing I'm worried about is my valve cover gasket. It's seeping currently and I can smell oil burning when I turn off the car most times. Is that something I should take care of before my trip?

Please let me know anything else I should make sure to check/know about these trucks on roadtrips!

Pete
I wouldn't say it's exactly pertinent or required for the trip but you should definitely address it sooner than later. It's certainly not a hard job, a little time consuming if you're by yourself and/or dont have experience doing the job, but not hard whatsoever. Valve cover leaks are incredibly common on these vehicles so it's not something to fret over.
SOMETIMES you can get by with tightening the valve cover a bit more, but this is a horrible habit to get into and something you should not do frequently at all.
 
Hello everyone!

Quick question. I'm planning on driving from St. George, UT to Boulder, CO this summer - about 650 miles. I recently bought a 2000 4Runner and I want to make sure it's ready to do the drive. The timing belt, radiator, water pump, etc. have all been replaced within the last ~30k.

The main thing I'm worried about is my valve cover gasket. It's seeping currently and I can smell oil burning when I turn off the car most times. Is that something I should take care of before my trip?

Please let me know anything else I should make sure to check/know about these trucks on roadtrips!

Pete

some add'l things to review, in no particular order:

engine oil and filter change unless you'll be within your maintenance window by the time you're back
in case the 'etc.' above does not include rear differential gear oil, transmission and transfer case gear oils and so on, make sure you do those since who knows when they were last done
tires in good shape, rotated and balanced, properly inflated
air filter
wiper blades (at least front, but also rear if it's there and works) and washer fluid
lower ball joints wouldn't be a bad move, unless you know they are recent
grease the driveshafts

my $0.02 on the valve cover gasket leak: be extremely careful if you are going to check the bolt tightness. if you suspect there's a very localized leak, see how the associated bolt(s) feel using a nut driver and very gentle torque. we're talking inch-pounds for these and over-torquing is really really bad, cringeworthy. there are lots of threads and vids about this, including torque specs.
 
Hi all, just picked up a 99 Limited and the hvac is possessed. The display will blink the normal information, but it seems like it's in "demo" mode where it will start at option 0 or 1, then proceed up to 7 or so. So basically it switches between hot, cold, fan speed, and direction of flow (defroster, dash, feet) all on it's own. Is there a control module for this thing or do I need to call a young priest and an old priest? TIA
 
A worthy investment in future care. One of these and Google will be your friend for many years and save you trips to the parts store for help.

Cheap basic OBDII scan gauge $35 Prime

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Which ultra gauge do I want to get trans temp on my 99 sr5, please. They have two different ones on the site.
 
Which ultra gauge do I want to get trans temp on my 99 sr5, please. They have two different ones on the site.


When I got mine, the Ultragauge MX 1.4 was the one that you can add the trans temp to. It appears to be $10 more than the basic model. Still, the prices have actually dropped since i got mine - what a world!

From their site:

UltraGauge MX v1.4 $91.32
Save: 15% off

The UltraGauge MX v1.4 has all the features as described on our main page, except that the MX has the added ability to access non-standard manufacturer specific gauges, such as transmission temperature (if supported by the vehicle)
Please note that the MX v1.4 does not contain the added features found on the UltraGauge EM Plus.

The display looks better than these crappy photos, but the SEX T4R is trans temp (you can call it whatever you want in 6 characters). The second shot is the code you input to add the gauge. There are several posts here on T4R that i used to find the codes needed to add the trans temp to the device. There are many pages of data screens on these things - this is just one layout. Some people will prefer the BT/phone app as it probably looks better. I just like the old school dedicated gauge.
 

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When I got mine, the Ultragauge MX 1.4 was the one that you can add the trans temp to. It appears to be $10 more than the basic model. Still, the prices have actually dropped since i got mine - what a world!

From their site:

UltraGauge MX v1.4 $91.32
Save: 15% off

The UltraGauge MX v1.4 has all the features as described on our main page, except that the MX has the added ability to access non-standard manufacturer specific gauges, such as transmission temperature (if supported by the vehicle)
Please note that the MX v1.4 does not contain the added features found on the UltraGauge EM Plus.

The display looks better than these crappy photos, but the SEX T4R is trans temp (you can call it whatever you want in 6 characters). The second shot is the code you input to add the gauge. There are several posts here on T4R that i used to find the codes needed to add the trans temp to the device. There are many pages of data screens on these things - this is just one layout. Some people will prefer the BT/phone app as it probably looks better. I just like the old school dedicated gauge.
Thanks so much, that was going to be my next question what the programming was.
Looking at the ordering site now. Which preprogramming do I go with? I'm guessing Tacoma but want to make sure. Thanks

Please Choose:
Preprogramming Option
Select
Ford 6.0L CAN
Ford 6.4L CAN
Ford 7.3L (2003 and older)
Ford with CAN (~2008+)
Ford Other (Not CAN)
General Motors (GM)
General Motors (GM) with CAN (~2008+)
Honda with CAN
Mazda with CAN (~>=2005)
Mercedes/Sprinter 2007-2013
Prius 2nd Gen
Prius 3rd Gen
Toyota Land Cruiser 200 4.6L,4.7L, 4.5L 2007 - mid2016
Toyota Land Cruiser 200 post-2016
Toyota Tacoma/Tundra CAN
 
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Thanks so much, that was going to be my next question what the programming was.
Looking at the ordering site now. Which preprogramming do I go with? I'm guessing Tacoma but want to make sure. Thanks

Please Choose:
Preprogramming Option
Select
Ford 6.0L CAN
Ford 6.4L CAN
Ford 7.3L (2003 and older)
Ford with CAN (~2008+)
Ford Other (Not CAN)
General Motors (GM)
General Motors (GM) with CAN (~2008+)
Honda with CAN
Mazda with CAN (~>=2005)
Mercedes/Sprinter 2007-2013
Prius 2nd Gen
Prius 3rd Gen
Toyota Land Cruiser 200 4.6L,4.7L, 4.5L 2007 - mid2016
Toyota Land Cruiser 200 post-2016
Toyota Tacoma/Tundra CAN

I was concerned about that too when I ordered. 'Tacoma' should be fine and I don't believe 3rd Gens used the (Tundra) CAN protocol at all. It turns out the the gauge will choose the correct protocols and even when you do a full factory reset (no pre-programming) like i did on mine a couple of times it still works fine. These things are pretty fool-proof (registered Fool here), so don't stress over it. The things are almost frustratingly basic - a refreshing throwback or an annoyance - your choice. To me, real ECU data for engine and trans temps are priceless. The dash gauge is worthless until it's too late. There are threads on here somewhere that document the process to add trans temps that I followed and then I repeated them in another thread and they worked for that person.....can't find them at first glance.
 
I was concerned about that too when I ordered. 'Tacoma' should be fine and I don't believe 3rd Gens used the (Tundra) CAN protocol at all. It turns out the the gauge will choose the correct protocols and even when you do a full factory reset (no pre-programming) like i did on mine a couple of times it still works fine. These things are pretty fool-proof (registered Fool here), so don't stress over it. The things are almost frustratingly basic - a refreshing throwback or an annoyance - your choice. To me, real ECU data for engine and trans temps are priceless. The dash gauge is worthless until it's too late. There are threads on here somewhere that document the process to add trans temps that I followed and then I repeated them in another thread and they worked for that person.....can't find them at first glance.

Thanks for the help just ordered one. I have torque app and multiple bt adaptors in my cars. I just wanted somthing more permanent that I didn't have to screw with everytime I get in the truck.
 
Hi all, just picked up a 99 Limited and the hvac is possessed. The display will blink the normal information, but it seems like it's in "demo" mode where it will start at option 0 or 1, then proceed up to 7 or so. So basically it switches between hot, cold, fan speed, and direction of flow (defroster, dash, feet) all on it's own. Is there a control module for this thing or do I need to call a young priest and an old priest? TIA
You need to have the auto climate control rebuilt. There's a guy on the forum that rebuilds them: Auto Climate Control Repair Services It worked wonderfully for mine.
 
Hello everyone!

Quick question. I'm planning on driving from St. George, UT to Boulder, CO this summer - about 650 miles. I recently bought a 2000 4Runner and I want to make sure it's ready to do the drive. The timing belt, radiator, water pump, etc. have all been replaced within the last ~30k.

The main thing I'm worried about is my valve cover gasket. It's seeping currently and I can smell oil burning when I turn off the car most times. Is that something I should take care of before my trip?

Please let me know anything else I should make sure to check/know about these trucks on roadtrips!

Pete

I drove for a good year with mine leaking but it progressively got worse. It's not too bad except for the fact that the wiring harness will break into pieces. I used electrical tape and wrapped it but it still broke into pieces, have something covering the valve train. After putting the valve covers back on remove the broken wire loom and replace it with new wire loom.
 
I have a 1998 4Runner Limited 2WD 4 Speed Automatic with 4 wheel ABS.

I read a Master Cylinder from a T100 would work in a 3rd Gen 4Runner.

Rockauto showed the following two parts for a 1995 T100…

More Information for QUALITY-BUILT NM55098
and
More Information for CENTRIC 16088801

Would those work in a 2WD 3rd Gen 4Runner?

Is there a reason you are going with T-100 parts. Parts on a 3.4L T-100 are the same as 3.4L 4runner. Why not just put your specific vehicle in their system and select options.
 
some add'l things to review, in no particular order:

engine oil and filter change unless you'll be within your maintenance window by the time you're back
in case the 'etc.' above does not include rear differential gear oil, transmission and transfer case gear oils and so on, make sure you do those since who knows when they were last done
tires in good shape, rotated and balanced, properly inflated
air filter
wiper blades (at least front, but also rear if it's there and works) and washer fluid
lower ball joints wouldn't be a bad move, unless you know they are recent
grease the driveshafts

my $0.02 on the valve cover gasket leak: be extremely careful if you are going to check the bolt tightness. if you suspect there's a very localized leak, see how the associated bolt(s) feel using a nut driver and very gentle torque. we're talking inch-pounds for these and over-torquing is really really bad, cringeworthy. there are lots of threads and vids about this, including torque specs.

Thank you for all that! I'm new to 3rd gens so I really appreciate the insights.

When I had the car inspected there was "a little play" in the lower ball joints but they didn't need to be replaced immediately. That was just a few weeks ago in early February. The peace of mind might be nice to have on the trip though. How much does that cost at a shop? I'm not sure that's a job I'll be able to do myself.

Also the oils you mentioned (transmission and transfer case), what does changing those entail? A job I can do myself or should I have a shop do them?

I think I'll just leave the valve cover gasket alone. It's not dripping onto the ground and I can deal with the smell. Don't want to take any risks with tightening the bolts. I'll just do it right when the time comes.

Thank you again!
 
Thank you for all that! I'm new to 3rd gens so I really appreciate the insights.

When I had the car inspected there was "a little play" in the lower ball joints but they didn't need to be replaced immediately. That was just a few weeks ago in early February. The peace of mind might be nice to have on the trip though. How much does that cost at a shop? I'm not sure that's a job I'll be able to do myself.

Also the oils you mentioned (transmission and transfer case), what does changing those entail? A job I can do myself or should I have a shop do them?

I think I'll just leave the valve cover gasket alone. It's not dripping onto the ground and I can deal with the smell. Don't want to take any risks with tightening the bolts. I'll just do it right when the time comes.

Thank you again!

hi. you can absolutely change the various gear oils yourself. at a bare minimum, change the oil in the rear diff, which is both the easiest to access, and also what gets dirty the fastest. a 24mm 6-point socket does both the filler and drain. make sure when you're taking those bolts off, that you don't strip the heads. they're shorter than some and can become rounded off, and then the (not) fun begins. i had a transfer case drain bolt that someone had grossly overtorqued, and it became rounded to the point that a welded-on nut was necessary to remove it.

doing that one will illustrate whether you want to do the others yourself or not. always remove the fill bolt first, then the drain, so that in case the drain plug comes easily but the filler doesn't, you're not caught without gear oil. after draining, fit a new crush washer to the drain bolt and torque to 36 ft lbf and no more. too tight is asking for trouble. refill until gear oil just barely crests the fill plug hole; mine takes about 2.3 qt of GL-5. to refill you can buy the squirt bottles or get a gallon and a transfer pump of choice. i do this often enough with two very similar toyotas, that i got a transfer pump that screws on to gallon containers. the others are very similar (front diff and transfer case) except the front diff typically has a hex socket bolt that everyone hates. if your vehicle is a manual, the procedure is similar but just harder to get to the fill bolt. that's why i have the hand pump. i have only owned manuals and any comment i'd have on changing ATF would be hogwash; definitely search the forum for that.

about the lower ball joints, the result of failure is catastrope. you can search for and see cringe photos as proof. then again this also illustrates selection bias in looking for rare occurrences and (of course) finding them and thinking it's right around the corner for you. i changed mine a couple months ago; watch timmy's video about it and i think you'll see it isn't ridiculous. hearing that yours have a little play seems normal but still not ideal. the parts cost around $100 each, and a shop will probably charge you book-rate to do them. this is a guess, but it could be a $500 shop job. if you spring for a shop to this, don't let them put in aftermarket LBJs; only go with toyota for LBJs.

i've done the drive you're planning (but in reverse -- boulder to st. george and back) and i commend you for wanting your vehicle safe and capable. that "no services next 106 miles" sign is kinda daunting. if i recall, there's a similar one on i-15 too.

i'm guessing the smell of burning oil is that your valve cover gasket is leaking oil onto the exhaust manifold, where it has no choice but smoke. it's not an ideal situation but it can indeed probably be ignored for quite a while, unless you're losing a lot of oil.

of all of these maintenance tasks, i would complete the rear diff first (assuming clean engine oil). grease the driveshafts (at least the rear) as well. the visor card tells you where these zerks all are. clean them off and give 'em a little grease in each. you may need to do the ones you can get at, then roll the vehicle forward or back a foot or two, to expose the other zerks that are hiding. alternatively, if you chock the front fore and aft, use jackstands to hold the rear safely off the ground, you can disengage the parking brake and spin the driveshaft by hand to find and grease all the zerks at once.
 
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So this may be a dumb question but here goes. Is there any maintenance or rebuild kit for the alternator on these trucks. To preface this I currently have no issues at all with my original one i was thinking about preventative maintenance.
I'd rather keep it in good working order while it is. I know in todays world reman'd and aftermarket are never as good as the originals. I though I heard that you replace the brushed on these. It that a hard job to do?
 
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