Those thinking about a Daystar lift with XREAS - My thoughts and install experience

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Full write up with pictures can be found here: 4runnerfamily.com


When deciding to buy and install a Daystar 2.5/1.5 spacer lift for my LE with XREAS, I realized that there really isn't too much info for doing this other than that it can be done. There is a lot of back and forth between not disconnecting the UBJ vs unbolting the bottom 2 bolts under the LBJ, etc. but again, nothing really on the actual install with XREAS. I wanted to share my experience which I hope will prove useful to others looking to take the same path as I did. Or maybe this thread will wither away into the abyss because no one cares for spacers.

So why did I go with a spacer lift when many say, oh just get the real deal the first time, scrap XREAS? Well, our XREAS is in perfectly good working order and still under warranty for one. We like the ride that it provides and this is still a primary DD vehicle. Because it's not used very often off-road (although my wife is hooked now), I wasn't too concerned about lifting without getting any extra travel...yet...but since we have the low hanging LE trim, I wanted to get a little more clearance. And lastly, I do all of my own work on our vehicles, so $120 for the spacers really wasn't much of a dent in our wallet. Since the install, I am very happy with it. It still rides like the stock XREAS, and we got that extra clearance we wanted. In our first outing off-road at the Rausch Creek 101 course, we never hit a skid while several of the jeeps were scraping. We also managed to keep the front lip safe too. As far as I'm concerned, this lift has done exactly what we need it to do for the time being.

I'd like to apologize in advance for not having pictures. I was in a time crunch while installing and forgot to snap pics along the way. I will post some pics later if I can find some that may help. This is also my first real instructional type post so sorry if it's not great. Oh, and do everything at your own risk.

Added link for reference until I embed photos. They're in the same order as they are referenced in the post I believe: Daystar Spacer Install - Google Photos

Before anything, crack the lugs on the fronts and then get both wheels off the ground. I was fortunate enough to have a lift, but Jack stands work too -- I actually did the rears on jackstands the next day (that time crunch again...). Remember you want to get it nice and high so there is room for the suspension to drop when disconnected. Remove the wheels.

Make sure you disconnect the the brackets for the ABS lines so you have more room to hang.

Disconnect your sway bar from the hub, and from the frame. To do this you will need to remove the front skid first, which is just a few bolts. I personally just let it hinge down, but you may prefer to completely remove it. Antman's oil change thread should identify the bolts for you if you are unsure. Daystar does not say to disconnect at the frame as far as I could tell but they are removing the entire unit from the vehicle, and since XREAS has the lines connected to the shocks, you need to be able to maneuver it in different ways to keep everything in tact. I just did one side at a time, so it was not fully disconnected.
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Next, remove the 3 nuts from the top of the strut mount. I would highly recommend ratcheting wrenches vs 3/8th socket ratchet for this. You will still likely be moving little by little but you’ll get there eventually.

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From here I began to unbolt the bottom shock mount.

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Once that bolt is removed, loosen the upper ball joint (UBJ). You will need to remove the cotter pin first, and then get to cranking. When the nut comes off, you will have to separate the joint. I did NOT use a BJ separator, just a hammer. I gave the UBJ some love taps on the side of it and it “popped” off. Make sure you don’t just let whole assembly freely drop.

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Because I had a lift, I placed both legs under the hub and used them to cradle the assembly. If you can’t position yourself like that, you may want to get creative with a bungee cord or ask for an extra set of hands. At this point the suspension will be hanging pretty low and you should be able to start wiggling the strut out. Start with the bottom mount, and pull it towards you. Then you will want to start directing the bottom toward the sway bar (front of vehicle). Because you have loosened the bar, it should tuck down there pretty easily. DO NOT DISCONNECT AND BE CAREFUL NOT TO OVEREXTEND THE XREAS LINES.
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Grab the top and start to pull that toward yourself, pushing up on the UCA so the strut will fit under it. You should now be in a perfect position to start assembling the Daystar products which is explained sufficiently in their documents.

Getting the strut back in is a little tougher now that it’s a couple inches taller, but it should still be pretty straight forward. You’ll have to start by getting the bottom aligned in it’s mount, and then push the top back into the strut mount (lifting up on the UCA). You may have to apply some downward pressure on the LCA to get the strut in. Once it’s back in place, bolt everything back up and repeat on the other side!

For the rears, the instructions from Daystar are sufficient since you really don’t need to move the rear shock much (just unbolting the bottom).

When you’re all done, sit back and admire :)

Don’t forget to get an alignment!

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To be honest, that's probably more work that I'm interested in doing. Would you trust a shop to do this for you? If so, only one that specializes in lifts, or any mechanic worth his weight in grease?
 
To be honest, that's probably more work that I'm interested in doing. Would you trust a shop to do this for you? If so, only one that specializes in lifts, or any mechanic worth his weight in grease?

I'm sure there are plenty of shops out there that are capable of doing it. From what I've read though, there are also a lot of shops that are unwilling to work on XREAS and XDSS suspensions because of the added liability. If you shop around, I'm sure you can find a shop that can do it.

The most important part for maintaining XREAS is either keeping the unit all together and NOT overextending the lines while working on them. Or, if they disconnect the XREAS to install the spacer, there is a specific way that it MUST be done, otherwise you will be at the dealer ordering a new system. It's really not too difficult, again, I think it just boils down to added liability for the shops.
 
I just did this mod last Sunday afternoon. Took about 5 hours to do the front and rear, both sides. It would have been less, but I didn't like the original thickness of the DayStar front spacers. They were about 1 5/8 inches thick, which works out to about a 3 inch lift. At that thickness, at full droop my CV axles were locked up, and I was not comfortable leaving it like that.

So, I pulled the spacers and took them to the band saw to reduce the thickness by 3/8 inch. I also had to cut down the stud extenders by the same amount. When I got done and everything back together, the lift is 2 1/2 inches and the CV's run freely at full droop, so I'm happy now with how it works and how it looks. The ride is unchanged, no funny noises over speed bumps, all seems good (except alignment).

I did the "unbolt the two bolts in the LCA" method, which worked well. Other than that, pretty much the same process as the OP. It's really not a hard job at all. Rear axle took about 45 minutes total.

I still have to deal with the alignment situation, since my LCA alignment bolts are seized as seems normal. Haven't quite decided how to handle that yet.
 
does anyone have anymore info on this install? I would like to do it myself before the winter.

Not quite sure what more you're looking for. The OP did a great job of detailing the process with pictures. The subsequent posts pretty much fill in all of the gaps.

If you're wanting to know how well it works 2 months later, I'm happy. I added SPC adjustable UCA's to fix my alignment issues, and it drives like a dream now.

I may eventually go to a shock change (Bilstein or OME), but probably not until the XREAS throws in the towel.
 
does anyone have anymore info on this install? I would like to do it myself before the winter.

Not sure what other info you require, the above is well explained to get the job done. I have Daystars on route & plan on doing this myself in the next week or so. I found this very informative. I did see a video w/xreas on youtube but can't seem to locate it at the moment. Tons of video's on youtube for the install. You can reference the sr5 install, just keep in mind that you can not uninstall the bottom of the strut due to having xreas suspension, but it would work well for a visual aid if that's what is needed. I'm only a Sat type mechanic & feel confident enough to tackle this. Just a bit time consuming is all...
 
Nice write up! You are correct about the XREAS, it is more than capable of handling anything out there and it is a very smooth ride on the street as well.

FWIW....I followed the exact same path for my 2014 Unlimited. I ran XREAS w/ spacer lift for two years and then upgraded to an ICON stage 7.
 
Just installed yesterday

Thread revival...

Thought I'd provide an update for anyone potentially researching this as I was a few weeks ago. Dropped it off with my indie mechanic, and he had it knocked out in about 1.5 hours. Said the install went smoothly enough. The front was a bit more of a challenge, but he stated that the rear was probably the easiest thing he's ever done in his shop.

Looks: MUCH better in my opinion. New wheels and tires go on tomorrow. Can't wait to remove the skinny OEM's!

Ride: Can't really tell much difference at all from stock. Maybe slightly more firm, but I'm used to sport/lowered suspensions on my cars. Will get an alignment soon, but it's tracking nicely already.
 
Finished Product

Had to remove the small front mud flap and still need to do a tiny bit of trimming on the front inner plastic. Overall very pleased, though.
 

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Absolutely love it. Much less raw than the Lotus Exige, but it still has a lot more character than the Porsche 997s I sold to buy it. The 911 was an awesome car, but I wanted something a bit more "special". It's honestly crazy how much attention it gets; even when running with guys in Lambo's, Porsche's, Z07's, etc.

Gratuitous shots attached... :)
 

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