i hear they arent as bad as they use to be, i wouldnt really buy them myself, especially for use on the highway, but id consider getting a set to hack around offroad with, no worse than getting a used set of mud tires with very few miles left on em, IMO. even when new your lucky to get 25k on a set of swamp style tires like hes looking for. when ur real short on cash sometimes ya have to go with what u can afford. at least that places mud tires tires come with a 2 year 24k warranty. besides, i just threw that out there just to see how & who would respond :lol: also, its not just retreads that have sheared off on highways,remember firestones a few years back, in fact, i had a set of cooper brothers that peeled off while driving. anyway, sorry to the OP for getting a bit off topic, try checking the classifieds on this forum, craigsliist or toyota 120, those guys are more inclined to have used offroad tires for sale, but may not be in the size u can use without lift. goodluck