Tore a cv boot wheeling today

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hinmo24t

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Hey, might have misphrased that...i had a missing clip on my inner boot of main axle on pass side 6 mos ago but must have not got it tight enough or proper. Apparently today wheeling something happened I lost what looks like a lot of grease. They were chainsawing trail ahead of me and maybe a stick pushed it or broke the boot. I think i have oem axles and dont hear any clicking and theres no movement when i shake it by hand. Going to bring it to shop by mid week and maybe put 100 miles of under 50 mph on it until then.

I feel like this shop tries upcharging a bit and hes going to want to put new cv axle in instead of just the boot...everytime I have a brake issue I pay $300-$500 for example because he wont jist change pads or caliper that seized. I might be an accountant but ive quadded and wheeled etc my whole life moderately. Since I think axles are fine should I have him just reboot them? Maybe I'll buy the $80 oem boot kit now express ship? Not sure he can get oem boot quickly (time is big factor) or hes going to want to put an aftermarlet axle in...i wheel the truck often. Any aftermarket decent boots? Moog etc? Advice...?

Tomorrow I'll ziptie if theres no tear or duct tape but seems in my searching I'll ne okay to run this a week or 100 miles or so? I lost a damn lot of the grease today. My commute is minimal luckily but bday dinner tomorrow 30 miles round trip. Its the inner boot.

Thanks
 
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Pack it with some axle grease and put a hose clamp on it. Should be fine until you can reboot or replace the axle...
 
You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

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I like wrenching on stuff amd have with cars and a lot of my mods but contemplating getting a daily soon w this wheeling hobby. Then i can learn amd save $ on issues like this.

I replaced blinker bulb before I went today haha

Thanks for advice guys
 
xtremewlr said:
You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

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This.

It only takes a couple hours to reboot an axle and most of that is removing/replacing the axle itself.

I have had good luck ordering the OEM boot kits off eBay for less than the stealership wants.

Get GOOD cv band pliers. I immediately bent and broke the cheap ones I bought at oreilly. I got them at NAPA and they are way beefier and I don’t see them breaking for their intended use. NAPA also sells better clamps than come with the kit. Grab a couple as you will break one of the dumb bend over clamps.

I watched this tutorial, long but very informative.

https://youtu.be/vcCT4UgFUTw

As for driving the rig with the boot torn, don’t worry about it. Less than a hundred miles won’t hurt anything. Just try to keep the dirt out of it with some tape or something.




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montijo505 said:
This.

It only takes a couple hours to reboot an axle and most of that is removing/replacing the axle itself.

I have had good luck ordering the OEM boot kits off eBay for less than the stealership wants.

Get GOOD cv band pliers. I immediately bent and broke the cheap ones I bought at oreilly. I got them at NAPA and they are way beefier and I don’t see them breaking for their intended use. NAPA also sells better clamps than come with the kit. Grab a couple as you will break one of the dumb bend over clamps.

I watched this tutorial, long but very informative.

https://youtu.be/vcCT4UgFUTw

As for driving the rig with the boot torn, don’t worry about it. Less than a hundred miles won’t hurt anything. Just try to keep the dirt out of it with some tape or something.




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Thanks...ill check it out. I got decent pliers for the clips but dont think i got it tight enough. I remember pinching the clip and it grabbed notches as I pinched it...not tight enough i guess. The boot jist slip when i check it on trail today and greased poured into my hand. Had already flung everywhere before that too. Good call on the dirt and time I have to get it fixed ill look to patch something tomorrow.

With how much i wheel hope he can get some good boot on there if not oem etc and this doesnt happen again soon...i need heavy jack stands and a daily soon lmao

Ran into the EP today out there and he was cool then I ironically dump grease all over the trails lmao. MA is so yag w wheeling. My typical spot near home its kosher though. Karma got me today
 
The red boots you have on the axle are they stronger material than oem and less likely to tear?

If so, can you please share a link? Hopefully, you had good experience with them in the past.

Thanks


xtremewlr said:
You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

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I have some somber news...i went out to put a bag on the boot and realized it is clicking and moving bad now. I bought the 4runner before realizong my house was super close to harsh legal wheeling and that id take it up as a hobby with my dog and girls and think I might have an aftermarlet cv put in and sell the truck for a bit more than i paid for it a year and a half ago. I need solid front axle grandpa XJ I think for this hobby. My only other thought is oem toyota CV but with wheeling every weekend, the rocky nature of the trails I do (harsh not rock crawling) it might be smart. I even felt a tiny click or movement on the other cv a minute ago too. Oem cvs installed $2500ish?? I cant risk that. Too bad. I love the truck but ive had 3 seized brakes and now need both axles I think. 140k miles. Billy old man emu lift 33s rock sliders and tire carrier now...clean frame I paid $7300 might look to get $8500 down to $7500 and find a grandpa XJ stock to work on or maybe a wrangler.

Edit: im strongly considering oem toyota axles. Anyone think fresh oem toyota CVs in theory will handle wheeling on a weekly basis? Serious investment but might go that route vs time in selling and buying and modding a jeep. I know theres a step up from toyota axles but theyre way more coin...
 
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Anyone have a link to oem cv axles assemblies? I might buy one or two of them to hopefully not deal w this again or get rid of the truck. Thanks.
 
hinmo24t said:
Anyone have a link to oem cv axles assemblies? I might buy one or two of them to hopefully not deal w this again or get rid of the truck. Thanks.
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Are the ones you're replacing OEM? I'd get OEM/CVJ/etc. replacements and re-boot the ones currently on the truck assuming they're salvageable, as spares.

I had a local shop replace my OEM CVs with NAPA (it's what they could get) and asked for the blown ones back to re-boot for next time. Was relatively cheap and no issues with the replacements, though I'm fully expecting them to fail quicker than OEM.

Also, if you're on the original CVs and have lifted/modified recently, it likely accelerated the boot failure. Sounds like you've made good progress on your build so I'd consider all the options before jumping ship to a new platform with it's own issues.
 
eleven14 said:
Are the ones you're replacing OEM? I'd get OEM/CVJ/etc. replacements and re-boot the ones currently on the truck assuming they're salvageable, as spares.

I had a local shop replace my OEM CVs with NAPA (it's what they could get) and asked for the blown ones back to re-boot for next time. Was relatively cheap and no issues with the replacements, though I'm fully expecting them to fail quicker than OEM.

Also, if you're on the original CVs and have lifted/modified recently, it likely accelerated the boot failure. Sounds like you've made good progress on your build so I'd consider all the options before jumping ship to a new platform with it's own issues.
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Good advice. I have a 2.5ish lift and yeah good call. Id rather spend a bit more now than deal w this anytime soon again and i get on the trails enough to not want aftermarket napa etc. I might scoop the oem setups just hoping theres no hidden costs w presenting them to a local mechanic.

Can someone confirm the linked assembly?

I only owen this truck a few years not sure whats in there is oem but i think they are at 135k and nothing in toyota service history about them. Small click on better side right now...might as well do both sides?
 
hinmo24t said:
Thanks...im going to be charged to have these installed everytime as i dont plan to do the work myself anytime soon so i have to factor that in
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At least you won’t be paying for the parts again hopefully, Napa also makes some with a thermoplastic outer boot that many have had good luck with. I picked up a couple and plan on rebuilding the stock pieces for spares.

As said before though, if you wheel you’ll eventually break something lol.
 
CVJ axles sells remanufactured OEM axles. You can even get them with the red silicone inner boots already straight from CVJ. Call and they will give you all the options. They’ll take your torn ones as cores so you can recoup some of the cost as long as they are OEM.

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Drift Monkey said:
At least you won’t be paying for the parts again hopefully, Napa also makes some with a thermoplastic outer boot that many have had good luck with. I picked up a couple and plan on rebuilding the stock pieces for spares.

As said before though, if you wheel you’ll eventually break something lol.
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I appreciate all the input and that Napa lifetime doesn't sound like a bad option except for I essentially can't deal with bringing a broken part to a Napa I pretty much bring the truck to the mechanic and have to have him take care of everything within a day or two I don't think that he is going to deal with a warranty process for me this is why I am contemplating buying an oem assembly for 360 dollars and handing them to him later this week

Can anyone confirm that $360 assembly for me or could he potentially run into needing more than just that?

I am going to ask him if any of his vendors have a lifetime option a few weeks ago he said he didnt for calipers so I'm not confident he's going to offer anything like that
 
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just got quote from toyota.

about $2200 for both sides CV with seals and diff oil.

$830 installed axle + $130 seal + $130 diff oil/2, $65 (x2 for both sides)

lovely situation im in here bringing it to independant mech tomorrow
said he resuses the toyota shafts?? i just have a lot of play and a torn inner boot.

better not get some garbage axles and have to go back to him for this again within a year or two. i run trails with water hole that have 9" curbs hidden in them from old asphalt roads lmao
 
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