Toyota 0W20 vs. Mobile 1 0W20 Observation

OMFG - yet another oil discussion !! This is like the ever ending discussion on how many MPG we get in our heavy 4WD super inefficient vehicles versus a Prius.

Obviously, just use Mobil 1 !~! I've driven millions of miles on Mobil 1 since the 1980's without ever having an engine problem.
 
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Plot twist: you're all just imagining things. Extra tenths of an MPG by switching brands? Maybe fresh oil just does that. Maybe your usual gas station is getting gas from a different supplier. Maybe X maybe Y. Oil brands aren't supposed to have drastic differences among the same grade.
 
Plot twist: you're all just imagining things. Extra tenths of an MPG by switching brands? Maybe fresh oil just does that. Maybe your usual gas station is getting gas from a different supplier. Maybe X maybe Y. Oil brands aren't supposed to have drastic differences among the same grade.

haha, think my supercharger is finally broken in maybe..
 
Plot twist: you're all just imagining things. Extra tenths of an MPG by switching brands? Maybe fresh oil just does that. Maybe your usual gas station is getting gas from a different supplier. Maybe X maybe Y. Oil brands aren't supposed to have drastic differences among the same grade.
And besides, nobody can duplicate their travels exactly tank-to-tank. Heck, nobody can even be certain they filled the tank to the same level as last time. Certainly, two different brands of the same viscosity synthetic oil can’t possibly differ enough to cause noticeable changes in mpg.
 
Speaking of oil and not to highjack the thread. but you think oil should get changed at 5k? i just did the dealer 5k service and there was no oil change, they said it is recommended at 10k. However, new engine and all.
 
Speaking of oil and not to highjack the thread. but you think oil should get changed at 5k? i just did the dealer 5k service and there was no oil change, they said it is recommended at 10k. However, new engine and all.

I don't think anyone has ever asked this before. It will be interesting to see the replies.
 
Speaking of oil and not to highjack the thread. but you think oil should get changed at 5k? i just did the dealer 5k service and there was no oil change, they said it is recommended at 10k. However, new engine and all.

Depends on how you drive it.

If in extreme conditions (dusty, lots of stop and go traffic, towing, heavy loads) do it at 5,000 miles. If under normal conditions, change at 10,000.
 
Speaking of oil and not to highjack the thread. but you think oil should get changed at 5k? i just did the dealer 5k service and there was no oil change, they said it is recommended at 10k. However, new engine and all.

Probably one of the most discussed items around these parts. Bottom line is do what you think you need to do to feel comfortable. Some go the full 10k a lot don't. I do a 5k, well, because that's what I do on my other suv, and an oil change is not expensive. Pick the oil that comes in your favorite color of bottle.
 
I did my first change just under 500 miles.....then I started on 5k and after seeing how pristine the oil was at 5, I run it now at 7,500. 10K is probably fine as far as the additive package is concerned but I like to be safe! Toy Filters from E-Bay and Mo-1 0-20 or 5-20.
 
I change mine every 5k which is about once a year.

I have Toyota Care for another year but honestly it takes more time for me to make an appointment, drop it off & go back and pick it up. So I just do everything myself.
 
I’d consider using the Amsoil except for the price of $13 per quart. But more to the point, most drivers do not need the very best wear protecting oil, as do high performance vehicles.
This from the author:

“...But, there could be some confusion for people who do not actually read my entire Blog. My test data on wear protection is generally aimed at High Performance and Racing engines that are capable of pushing motor oils near their limits. So, knowing how capable various oils truly are, can be critical. It is of course also for people who simply want to know what oils will provide the best possible wear protection for their engines, even if they don’t technically push their motor oil near its limit.

However, for ordinary daily driver vehicles, the oil used is nowhere near as critical as it is for High Performance and Racing engines. So, a normal daily driver vehicle may operate just fine for the life of the engine on say a low performing 60,000 psi motor oil. But, a High Performance or Racing engine may require a high performing 90,000 psi or higher motor oil, to avoid wear and/or damage. It just depends on how much loading the engine puts on its motor oil.”

Upon further review, it seems a large % of the Bitog crowd roundly reject his findings as junk science at best, and full of errors and inconsistencies, to put it mildly.
 

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