Toyota trucks in combat

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2003-4x4runner said:
Can we get the 50 cal on the 4 runners?

I think that is why Thai got a G-wagon. His is the easiest to get the gun option by doing a retrofit with some "spare" parts, if he has any military connections. (Oops, don't even need those. Just buy it off E-bay.)
 
Kmvreter said:
I think that is why Thai got a G-wagon. His is the easiest to get the gun option by doing a retrofit with some "spare" parts, if he has any military connections. (Oops, don't even need those. Just buy it off E-bay.)
That reminds me, when I first met Thai about 10 years ago he had a bumper sticker on the back of his old CR-V that read:

"Driver carries less then $20 ammunitiion on board" :D

So yeah, I could definitely see him getting some spare ebay parts for his G-wagon :D
 
Those Hilux' have a pretty cool "exoskeleton" type cage around them, I'd have no real use for one of those but wish I was handy with metal fabrication, could make some pretty cool protective pieces for the 4runner.

Also, does that quad in the background have a gun mounted to it?
 
Nice rigs. I've been thinkin' of mounting camo on my rig next summer. ;)

This reminds me of few hilux that AT modified for the UN & NATO in Afghanistan.
They had some Benz jeeps that needed new dampers every 7k miles, and many other parts that damaged alot because of bad roads, also one place they use to travel to took 'round 10 hours of drivin.

The hilux were on 35s and could travel that same road on 4-6 hours (depending on weather and condition) running the 35s at 8-12psi.
It's also interesting to know that the koni's survived much much longer than the dampers in the Benz. I think they replaced them every 30k miles.

Just 'bit of info. :)
 
But, why settle for just one 50 cal gun?? Here is my next mod:
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Here is a nice clean 4-dr Canadian model:
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Well, we used to have a saying when I was in the Corps:

"Happiness is a belt-fed weapon." (Anyone who has ever fired one knows how much fun they are)

So taking off on this point.......

I guess ecstasy is a belt-fed weapon on a Toyota! Would be great for helping me get through the Boston traffic.



Why not go with a proven, tough, rugged, off-the-shelf vehicle that does not cost a ridiculous amount of money?

The DOD pays about $50,000+ for each HMMWV that is only powered by a puny 96 horsepower diesel engine and cannot get out of its own way when needed. You could still armor up the passenger cabin on a 4Runner or Tacoma and have more power available than a HMMWV is going to give you. Seats are a whole lot more comfortable too.
 
CannondaleMan said:
The DOD pays about $50,000+ for each HMMWV that is only powered by a puny 96 horsepower diesel engine and cannot get out of its own way when needed. You could still armor up the passenger cabin on a 4Runner or Tacoma and have more power available than a HMMWV is going to give you. Seats are a whole lot more comfortable too.

Yeah, but it is hard to beat a Humvee over the terrain that it was designed for...sandy hills and fast washboards. The Humvee platform itself is pretty strong i think...the frame is pretty thick and well constructed. I don't think that you can compare a military platform with a civilian platform.
 
Thai said:
Yeah, but it is hard to beat a Humvee over the terrain that it was designed for...sandy hills and fast washboards. The Humvee platform itself is pretty strong i think...the frame is pretty thick and well constructed. I don't think that you can compare a military platform with a civilian platform.

I know, I put them through their paces when I was licensed by hte Marines to drive them A 2 week course on just how to drive it and put it through its paces. I have puctures with the @$$ end so high people are standing under the wheels.

They can do incredible things, but an experienced operator in almost any vehicle can do the same thing in reality. They are tough, they pull everything to include howitzers if needed.

Wide, low, slow, and ridiuclously underpowered in the grand scheme of things. Put a fording kit, sever weather tires (I noticed the HiLux has BFGs on it) with run-flats like the HMMWV has and you can really go. Most HMMWVs are not armored but even so, the engine is a bit low on the power scale.

Most national defense forces use a lot of mildly modified civilian vehicles - your G-Wagon for example. Brits use Land Rovers. Japan uses Toyotas and Mitsubishis I believe. It really does not take much to make a civilian vehicle more military ready.

Even our own military has militarized versions of civilian SUVs and pick-ups. They are called CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicles) that are bare bones trucks with the low light capabilities to drive using night vision and not give away the convoy's location.
 
Actually, the G-wagen is a military platform. It was designed for military service from the get-go in the 1970's. Like the Humvee to Hummer H1, the G500/55 is the civilian conversion of the military platform.

And remember, not everyone in the Army knows how to drive...so, having a vehicle that can drive fast over most surfaces and can handle heavy duty service is worth having.

BTW, i am not the biggest fan of the Hummer H1/Humvee, but it does serve it's purpose well over certain terrains (fast washboards, sand, mud) that no other vehicle can match. Yeah, my G or Rubicon can outperform H1 on rocks and small places, but there is no doubting H1's performance in the wide open areas.
 
t001 said:
Hi,

Does anyone know what engines are under those Hiluxes in Afghanistan or Iraq? Thanks.

AFAIK, it's the 2.5l common rail TDI (3L-T) or the 3.0l common rail TDI (5L-T).
 

BTW, i am not the biggest fan of the Hummer H1/Humvee, but it does serve it's purpose well over certain terrains (fast washboards, sand, mud) that no other vehicle can match. Yeah, my G or Rubicon can outperform H1 on rocks and small places, but there is no doubting H1's performance in the wide open areas. [/B]


Me either Thai. I had a chance to drive one about 15 years back and through the desert and wide trails, I would have taken the H1 hands down over anything else. The ability to go sideways across a hill where most vehicles would have rolled, the approach angle which allows climbing a nearly 3 foot vertical wall (or a series of them like steps) like it was nothing was very impressive. However my first exposure to the Civilian version of the H1 was one that was broken down on the side of the road with all 4 tires flat. I asked what had happened and the owner was showing off and went over a curb, but something on the curb caught and ripped the air supply line to the inflation system and deflated all four tires.
 
This reminds me of an anecdote in a book I read a few years ago, called "The Great War for Civilization" by a British journalist named Robert Fisk. Many years ago he actually interviewed Osama bin Laden, before 9/11 and all that's happened since. To meet OBL, he was driven up into the Afghan mountains in a Toyota "jeep" - presumably a Land Cruiser FJ40 - for hours in the dark.

I remember laughing when he wrote that, as they got to a particularly precarious spot, the driver turned to him and said "Toyota is good for jihad".
 

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