Billynath1988
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Looks awesome man.. Thanks for the pics.. I cannnnot wait to do mine.. neeeed money lol
Toytec ultimate - pulled the trigger
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Metalmantr
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Haha yeah that's not creepy at all man
Sounds like a You Me and Dupree situation going on. But I'd appreciate that. As time passes I have this shop in mind. If I go that route I was thinking about asking if I could watch and take some pics.Metalmantr
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Thanks man, very helpful info and awesome rigs! This shop I might go to is about 30 miles away from where I would get my alignment. So hopefully that should be OK. A race car for another vehicle, that's the way to go!Attached are some before and after pics. The Jeep in the pic is a Rubicon that my buddy and I lifted at the same time. The after pics show the 3"front/2" rear Toytec Boss lift installed and stock Rubicon tires (255/75/17 MT). The trail pics are from Moab, the first trip with the new lift. I took off the running boards but haven't had time to get sliders installed yet.
I went with the Rubicon tires because there were quite a few on Craigslist (just a touch over 32"). This size fits in the spare area under the bumper.
I didn't take any pics during the install but if there is something you would like to see I would be happy to take a pic. We used PB Blaster but I did have trouble with one skid plate bolt and had to cut it off (not bad for a 11 year old car). In the rear, besides needing a spring compressor to make it easier (you can borrow them from the auto parts store for free), the other tight spot was the top nut for the rear shocks - you don't get much room to swing a wrench and it is tucked up behind the body seam. Toytec said some people just trim that extra metal to make it easier to get at the nut - we had a rathcheting box end wrench that made it a little faster.
[MENTION=100689]Metalmantr[/MENTION] - I drove for about a week on the old tires and then installed the new tires and did the alignment. A quick drive around the block should get it close for height measurement (I think it's how the tires set down on the pavement after coming from full sag on the jack). Toytec indicated to measure from center of hub to top of fender. Stock front is 19" and stock rear is 21". Use these as a baseline so that if your old springs had sagged, you can get accurate measurements
It was fine to drive without the alignment, maybe a little more touchy in the steering, but not bad - just don't want to drive too long on good tires or they will start to wear funny - I think I did maybe 250 miles and started to see a little uneven outside wear - align and rotate and you will be good. I felt like I couldn't take the corners as fast but I don't think it was dramatic. It's hard for me to compare though since my other car is a lowered Miata with racing suspension
Maybe see you on the trails in CO!
I will have my Supra some day, oh yes, I will. Yup see you out there, guarantee it!
PS - I want to go to Moab!
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preacher35
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Thanks man, very helpful info and awesome rigs! This shop I might go to is about 30 miles away from where I would get my alignment. So hopefully that should be OK. A race car for another vehicle, that's the way to go!
Yup see you out there, guarantee it!
PS - I want to go to Moab!
The place that you are thinking about doing your lift, doesn't do alignments? Most off road shops do alignments. Have you asked?
Metalmantr
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I believe they do. I have the Firestone lifetime though. When I spoke to the guy he did inquire as to if the lift came with alignment specs. I did not know.
preacher35
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No, the kit per say, does not come with alignment specs. HOWEVER, the toytec site recommends camber be set to zero and toe to .04 degrees. Look, as long as whomever is installing the UCA's, installs the ball joints exactly how SPC Performance (manufacturers of LR UCA's) instructions direct, you should be fine on your 30 mile drive to Firestone for your alignment.
Metalmantr
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Excellent. Thanks man. I have the installation booked for next Monday. I wanted to be able to wait to do it, but need to get it done. Can't wait! Then the new tires will be slapped on (275/65/18 will be slapped on and the alignment performed.
preacher35
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Cool. Looking forward to seeing pics of the finished product! And while I am on the topic, here is a shameless pic of mine that I took yesterday:
Metalmantr
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Cool. Looking forward to seeing pics of the finished product! And while I am on the topic, here is a shameless pic of mine that I took yesterday:
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Nice rig! On another note, how do you like that Gibson cat-back?
montijo505
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Good looking rig preacher, why doesn't mine look that tall?Cool. Looking forward to seeing pics of the finished product! And while I am on the topic, here is a shameless pic of mine that I took yesterday:
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preacher35
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Um, I like it. It's not overwhelming but has a nice hum. I went with Gibson, because I am used to the sound as I had one on my Xterra many years ago and their customer service is excellent.
preacher35
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Because I pray a lot. Duh.
montijo505
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^^lol
Metalmantr
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You religious types, riding around in your lifted 4runners, noses held a notch higher above anyone else. lol
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preacher35
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You will burn for that, my son.
Metalmantr
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Awesomeness!
I arrive home after being at the shop. My Wife: How do you like your new lift baby? Me: F**king awesomeness! The only words to describe it.
This is true. I LOVE how the truck looks and performs now.
All that has gone on so far is the 3" Toytec ultimate, Spidertrax and Sway bar bushings. Minus the rear, which as feared was the wrong size. It takes a 21mm per their measurements.
Here is a before and a couple after pics. Don't mind the uneven and washed out lighting, and trust me, I enjoy photography, so I have to fight to look past it! However, you will get the idea. Enjoy! Next come the new tires. They should be on tomorrow.
I arrive home after being at the shop. My Wife: How do you like your new lift baby? Me: F**king awesomeness! The only words to describe it.
This is true. I LOVE how the truck looks and performs now.
All that has gone on so far is the 3" Toytec ultimate, Spidertrax and Sway bar bushings. Minus the rear, which as feared was the wrong size. It takes a 21mm per their measurements.
Here is a before and a couple after pics. Don't mind the uneven and washed out lighting, and trust me, I enjoy photography, so I have to fight to look past it! However, you will get the idea. Enjoy! Next come the new tires. They should be on tomorrow.
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preacher35
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Looks awesome, bud! Yeah, like yours, my rear sway bar is 21mm, so I had to put my rear bushings on hold as well. Now you just have to lose the pookey little tires and get some 285's on there. Oh, and I saw that your "vibration" issue was a rusted, loose heat shield. Glad it was something minor so it didn't spoil the fun of the new lift!
philskeeter
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I know there's no straight answer because everything's different and you have aftermarket wheels but did you run into any problems after putting on the 285's? terrible acceleration, rubbing, braking problems? sorry to bother
Metalmantr
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Thanks man! I will get that other bushing soon and get that bad boy on soon. No biggy.
I have some 275/65/18's that should be in today. Should be enough for me for now, but we will see! Either way. I'm stuck with em!Actually, I had said I wanted a 285, but the guy at discount said the stock wheels would not take to them very well and could be dangerous and they would not install them. I don't know how much validity is behind this, but I decided to be cautious.
So glad it was the heat shield. I find it interesting. This problem develops just as I am about to go to the shop. Great timing
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preacher35
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If you are directing that question at me, then here is my response: I installed 285/70/17's about two weeks post Toytec Ultimate lift. The front mud flaps had to be removed immediately as they rubbed quite badly when reverse turning. Yes, I still have a teeny tiny bit of rubbing on the body mount just posterior to the front wheels, but only when reversing at full lock. The "body mount chop" should stop said rubbing in its tracks. As far as acceleration is concerned, I went from 265/70/17's to the 285's and YES, acceleration is SLIGHTLY affected. Rather than saying that it "accelerates slower", I'll say that it is not as "peppy". I still feel the same horsepower, but the gearing feels a tad "off". I am perfectly happy with it as I retired from NASCAR many years ago and thus, am not racing around... and after all, it's an SUV. ALL in all, it was worth it.
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