Trade in the '12 SR5 already?

[diverscale]

opinion from snowland here (canada):

My last trucks were part-time 4WD. They did EXCELLENT in the snow when in 4WD, and poorly when in 2WD, even with snow tires.

The thing is, for me, the vehicles worked flawlessly during winter, because I know when to turn on and off 4WD, but wife might not know this very well.

I say, if you can afford it, switch over, and you will get peace of mind, and some nice options in bonus.

 

[wvbeachguy]

I just traded my 11 SR5 w/9700 miles for a 12 Trail and got an awesome deal. If you can do it, go for it. SR5s are great and worth a lot of money.

 

[bofa]

I just traded my 11 SR5 w/9700 miles for a 12 Trail and got an awesome deal. If you can do it, go for it. SR5s are great and worth a lot of money.

How'd you make out on the trade value?

 

[RubiconSS]

opinion from snowland here (canada):

My last trucks were part-time 4WD. They did EXCELLENT in the snow when in 4WD, and poorly when in 2WD, even with snow tires.

The thing is, for me, the vehicles worked flawlessly during winter, because I know when to turn on and off 4WD, but wife might not know this very well.

I say, if you can afford it, switch over, and you will get peace of mind, and some nice options in bonus.

My Wife drove a T4R for 5-6 years. Every year, when it snowed my cell phone would ring, " Hi Babe, whats up?" " Ya know it's snowing" "Yep" " What do I put the thingy in, I never remember".
That I do get. Sometimes it's easier to just take out the check book and say
"How much"

 

[SubyGuy]

Agree with the rest

I lived in Boulder for 7 years, was a transplant from California(dont worry, i left so there is room for one more person to move to CO now.) I agree that tires make the all the difference. When i lived their most of my friends had two wheel drive cars with studded tires and did fine. I had a Saab 9/2 aero with m/s tires and my buddys accord with studs out performed my car. So its really just about the tires. Get a set of winter tires and a set of summer tires. The car really isnt too important. My buddys Z3 bmw did fine even in 6 inches of powder with his studs on(although the soft top with no defogger for the rear window was a problem. I even saw a guy ridding a bmw motorcycle in massive blizzard once, that was crazy! Get what makes you happy though in the end. :driving:

 

[wvbeachguy]

How'd you make out on the trade value?

Hey BOFA. I think I did great. They gave me 31500 for mine. That was more than what I expected. They loved the low miles on it.

 

[bofa]

Hey BOFA. I think I did great. They gave me 31500 for mine. That was more than what I expected. They loved the low miles on it.

Good to hear, thank you. I think we'll have similar use.... it's been almost 6 months and we are nearing 4k. I would expect to lose a little money, but man these things hold their value.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I want to do this before or after we move.

 

[GrantK]

Good to hear, thank you. I think we'll have similar use.... it's been almost 6 months and we are nearing 4k. I would expect to lose a little money, but man these things hold their value.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I want to do this before or after we move.

You'll find T4Rs very plentiful out here which should give you a better selection to choose from. Price wise, things probably balance out between there/here and trade-in/new. You also want to consider if you want to put the highway miles on your SR5 or your brand new LTD.

Regardless, you'll want to replace the stock tires with good winter tires almost immediately. Blizzak's seem to be the preferred winter tire by almost everyone. We're expecting light snow this weekend (only accumulating on grassy areas) so winter is almost here. If you plan to drive all over during winter, regardless of the weather, you might want chains as well, especially for high country travel. Then, when winter is over, either go back to stock tires (yuk) or some other tire. For summer, you'll probably want at least ATs, or if you want to do serious off-roading (very popular here) MTs.

 

[wvbeachguy]

Good to hear, thank you. I think we'll have similar use.... it's been almost 6 months and we are nearing 4k. I would expect to lose a little money, but man these things hold their value.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I want to do this before or after we move.

You are welcome. They do hold their value, worth a lot of money. I know my dealer never has a problem selling them. You might be able to swing a better deal on a 12 than a 13.

 

[bofa]

Quick question - is there a 'perfect tire' for those in snowy regions? Or are you pretty much required to get a separate set of snow tires?

And by perfect I mean...
-Somewhat quiet on pavement
-Good dry/wet traction on pavement
-Decent offroad grip
-Capable in snow/ice
-Good tread life

It doesn't have to be the best in each category, but it would be great if there was some middle ground. I have a feeling the answer is no... but thought it was worth a shot. :tongue: I'll keep searching in the meantime.

 

[bofa]

So.. I think I'm going to try out the SR5 for the first winter we are there and will make the decision the following Summer ('14). I'll just take some extra time to teach my wife when/how to use 4WD. I'll add in some heated seats and the remote start to make her happy. I'll upgrade our tires (leaning towards the Cooper Discoverer AT/P at the moment so I'll wait for a sale) and add a second set of wheels with Blizzaks next year.

Although... it would be fun to go to a tire place here and ask for a set of Blizzaks. I've contemplated going to Lowes as well and asking them to show me their snow blowers too.

 

[CITADEL96]

Ice

When I was in Fort Worth TX, they had a snow/ice storm about 2 years ago, and nothing was really done for the whole day, they recommended people to stay home. I still went to work with the stock tires, driving 10mph though lol Versus in Iowa, the first sign of snow you have snow plows on the street plowing and salting the roads.

4WD x ICE = ZERO TRACTION.....:driving:

 

[RonMAIDEN]

Honestly we just don't get alot of snow along the front range and when we do the roads are clear within a day or two at the most (save for the occasional big snow) and then it's dry pavement again which IMO makes winter tires (especially with studs) a bit overkill on a 4wd vehicle. I drove for 6 winters @8000ft with just all seasons on my AWD Eclipse and never had an issue so IMO just something like the Nitto Terragrappler or Hankook Dynopro will work fine for winter on your Runner and still have good dry pavement manners which is what you'll be driving on the 90% of the time in town.

If you ski or venture into the mountains on a regular basis then a good set of ATs or winter tires might be a good idea.

My Nittos were a very good tire for daily driving duties,did well in the snow and handled the occasional off road trip just fine.

 

[1engineer]

Honestly we just don't get alot of snow along the front range and when we do the roads are clear within a day or two at the most (save for the occasional big snow) and then it's dry pavement again which IMO makes winter tires (especially with studs) a bit overkill on a 4wd vehicle. I drove for 6 winters @8000ft with just all seasons on my AWD Eclipse and never had an issue so IMO just something like the Nitto Terragrappler or Hankook Dynopro will work fine for winter on your Runner and still have good dry pavement manners which is what you'll be driving on the 90% of the time in town.

If you ski or venture into the mountains on a regular basis then a good set of ATs or winter tires might be a good idea.

My Nittos were a very good tire for daily driving duties,did well in the snow and handled the occasional off road trip just fine.

I have driven extensively (hundreds) of times in Utah, Wyoming, Montana during my travels for my job. The snow out there is different than the snow back east in the fact that the moisture content is much less so it is not as slick. I have also driven in the mountains of Colorado and in certain places it is like Utah snow and in others it is like our Appalachian snow. So what type is it on the eastern side of the Rockies around Denver and Colorado Springs? Wet or dry?

 

[bofa]

Nice pic.

I admit that I may tend to over-engineer things when I make them so it's likely that I'm over-thinking things as I prep for the move. I can't tell you how much time I've spent looking at cargo trailer information and I'm not even planning to keep it long term. I've come full circle and am back to the Uhaul rental actually... haha. I think all of this planning makes me feel like the big move is that much closer. I've been waiting a long time...

If I come across a good deal on some wheels I may still get a set for Blizzaks though. I'd hate to not have them and something happen, especially with the wife driving. :lookout:

 

[whodat]

4WD x ICE = ZERO TRACTION.....:driving:

Not to sound like an a**, but SOME traction must exist in order for me to drive on ice correct? If no traction existed, I would have been spinning my tires in the same spot the whole time. How else would I be able to drive when there was ice on the road? Magic?

 

[bofa]

So... hate to kick this thread up again... but a good friend of mine recently got on with the area's biggest Toyota importer and can get me what I want at cost and already offered. Hell I'm fighting the urge to not go ahead and get a TE too... and a FR-S for weekends. arty:




ok ok simmer down :ybrick: ... just the one vehicle until we move.

 

[Jeremy556]

Limited isn't going to do anything your SR5 can't already do, just have to move a lever every once in a while.

Just 24 days until I am on my way out there...

 

[bofa]

Limited isn't going to do anything your SR5 can't already do, just have to move a lever every once in a while.

Just 24 days until I am on my way out there...

Vacation or moving? Our week long trip is about 5 weeks away. :frog:

ETA - and to be fair, there's a bit the Limited can do that my SR5 can't... XREAS, center locking diff, 4WD on dry pavement, etc.

 

[Jeremy556]

Vacation or moving? Our week long trip is about 5 weeks away. :frog:

ETA - and to be fair, there's a bit the Limited can do that my SR5 can't... XREAS, center locking diff, 4WD on dry pavement, etc.

Moving, finally.

XREAS - easily beaten with aftermarket suspension.
Center diff lock - you have the exact same thing when you shift into 4WD
4WD on dry pavement - what for?