Jesse1983
5th Gen Moderator
Trail dash is different. Better aesthetically IMO.
what's the difference?
Trail dash is different. Better aesthetically IMO.
There is one at Carmax now (according to their site).
Also, I think the be all end all that KDSS has been touted as is a bit overrated. I definitely think there is benefit (obviously), but the trail STILL suffers from nose dive and that will need to be addressed. I think the best on road out of the box, off the dealership floor option is XREAS. It addresses nose dive, body roll, and on road handling/response. I think the limited is a bit more refined in the interior as well.
Not trying to take anything away from trail owners, but I think it's important to mention that while cornering and body roll are addressed with KDSS, the nose dive and front to back wobble (stopping at stop lights) is still there and just the same as an SR5 (which I found to be not to my liking).
front to back wobble (stopping at stop lights) is still there and just the same as an SR5 (which I found to be not to my liking).
There is one at Carmax now (according to their site).
Also, I think the be all end all that KDSS has been touted as is a bit overrated. I definitely think there is benefit (obviously), but the trail STILL suffers from nose dive and that will need to be addressed. I think the best on road out of the box, off the dealership floor option is XREAS. It addresses nose dive, body roll, and on road handling/response. I think the limited is a bit more refined in the interior as well.
Not trying to take anything away from trail owners, but I think it's important to mention that while cornering and body roll are addressed with KDSS, the nose dive and front to back wobble (stopping at stop lights) is still there and just the same as an SR5 (which I found to be not to my liking).
Trail dash is different. Better aesthetically IMO.
Obviously not familiar with KDSS Trails here.
the dash is essentially the same across all models.
since you never answered me I had to go back and see what the difference was between the dash. As I thought, I found very little. So you may want to be sure before you post things as fact.
Limited dash first, then trail dash.
Sorry for not replying. And yes it IS fact. You are the one that said dashes are the same between ALL models. That, my friend, is NOT correct. If you dont know, please dont post. If you get a chance, sit in 12' TE then 12' SR5 with the lights on. Albeit subtle, but again, more aesthetically appealing IMO
Wait a minute... are you now referring to the gauge clusters?? Everyone knows those are different. You said the dashes are different. Jesse said they are "essentially" the same, not exactly the same. Looking at his photos I agree with his statement. Slight color differences and knobs versus buttons.
It seems that the issue is different understandings of "dash" and whether that includes the "instrument cluster" [term used in manual], the hard plastic area over the instrument cluster and also containing the passenger airbag, or both.
To me, the gauges and instrument cluster are a subset of the dash, but I would not use "dash" when specifically referring to only the gauges. Others obviously have a different understanding.
In other words:
Hardrunner, you are right, the Optitron gauges are different in the instrument cluster, so the TE/LE dash is different than the SR5.
Jesse, you are right, the gauges are the major difference and the rest of the dashboard area is very similar across all models.
Lol, thanks eagle for clarifying the ambiguity. I love this place :lmao:
Yep... love seeing "arguing" based on word choices and totally ignoring the substance of the issue.
I can't seem to find a trail edition at any local dealer. Anyone know why that model is hard to find? and is it worth paying the extra money if you don't plan on off roading?