Tranny whine - how long do I have

[johnbyebye]

Well I call my local pos toyota dealer and was quoted 5k for the tranny and install. Think it will be gold plated??

Lol if I were going to spend that I'd definitely be buying another 4Runner.

 

[thegipper]

You can usually find a used tranny from a junk yard for 600ish with 130k miles or so. Spend a day pulling your old one and installing the one from the yard and you're back on the road.

No way in hell I would spend 5k at the stealership. Shit, I wouldn't even pay 2k for a rebuild.

 

[frodiesel]

3k is a tough pill to swallow for tranny. it's like buying another 3rd gen.

I would avoid this route unless you like making it rain for your mechanic. I purchased my used trans from Iowa and met the guy halfway or just north of Moberly, Mo. Cost me 425 as the 25 was for core charge. Replaced trans on gravel apt driveway. Landlord was more impressed than pissed (not supposed to work on cars per lease). That was 45k miles ago.

 

[BXPhoto]

for you guys who cant find yards with parts... Ive used this site numerous times to get engines etc for multiple custom builds with ease. Its a nationwide network of all the junkyards. Super easy to find parts. I found A rated used 3rd gen 4wd trannies for 350.00.


Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market

ha it was my secret site used to buy LS1's etc for drift cars for cheap. Never had any issues contacting and setting up freight. And half the time I found stuff in Las Vegas local to me right on the website. Saved me a day of walking around yards to find our cars.

 

[ATX-Runner]

Your torque converter is slipping so your transmission has to work harder to achieve the same task, hence the overheating. However that's based on the assumption that the whine is indeed coming from your transmission. Have you ruled out other possibilities like a water pump mentioned above?

Had the exact same issue with my 99. took about 6 months for the torque converter to completely go out.

 

[amalik]

for you guys who cant find yards with parts... Ive used this site numerous times to get engines etc for multiple custom builds with ease. Its a nationwide network of all the junkyards. Super easy to find parts. I found A rated used 3rd gen 4wd trannies for 350.00.


Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market

ha it was my secret site used to buy LS1's etc for drift cars for cheap. Never had any issues contacting and setting up freight. And half the time I found stuff in Las Vegas local to me right on the website. Saved me a day of walking around yards to find our cars.

The site isn't really a secret if you're a car guy, ha. Used it plenty.

 

[nely]

Your torque converter is slipping so your transmission has to work harder to achieve the same task, hence the overheating. However that's based on the assumption that the whine is indeed coming from your transmission. Have you ruled out other possibilities like a water pump mentioned above?

Yes. Timing belt water pump all replaced when I did the heads few years ago. And whine is only noticeable in gear. But that's another topic for my problem. Relevant though since OP has similar whine


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[HammerHead]

Looked at that web site and only found one worth calling about. A 97 with 61k for $609 and rated an A. Others on there were rating trannies an A with over 200k on them. I'm not going to save $ on one with that many miles on it.

I did check Rockauto and they have one for $1842 shipped with the 5% discount plus $600 core charge. It come with a 3 year warranty. I have a friend who can help install and I'd just have to get him a tranny jack. $200 at the local Harbor Freight.

One local shop quoted me 2200-2800, but wouldn't know till it's torn apart and it only comes wit a two year warranty.

 

[mtbtim]

3k is a tough pill to swallow for tranny. it's like buying another 3rd gen.

I guess it depends on how much you have invested in your truck whether it's worth the investment. If you still have a relatively low mileage engine and you've done lots of upgrades to the suspension and other areas of the rig, it's worth spending the money on a transmission.

[MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] is in the same situation right now. His transmission imploded last week. It's grinding in gear and doesn't move. We thought it could be the flex plate, but after pulling off the access plate at the bottom of the bell housing, we can see the flex plate spinning. Also, there wasn't any noise while in park, and if it was the flex plate, it would have been making noise in park. As soon as the transmission is shifted into gear, major grinding noise coming from the transmission. We thought it could be the transfer case, but the sound is loudest directly under the transmission.

We discussed the options but agreed going with a rebuilt transmission is the way to go. With a used one, you are taking a huge risk that the previous owner took care of it with regular fluid changes and you're also taking a risk that the seller is being honest about the mileage that was on the vehicle it came out of. it's a huge amount of labor just to find out the used transmission you bought is a piece of crap.

Camelback Toyota sells an automatic transmission rebuilt by Toyota for $2300 and it includes the torque converter. But, Camelback doesn't ship transmissions. We'd have to drive from San Jose, California to Phoenix, Arizona to pick it up and drop off the old one for the core they require. 11 hour drive one way but it just might be worth it. There's another company in New Jersey called IPT Performance that rebuilds them stronger than factory. But, after you pay for the rebuilt trans, rebuilt torque converter and pay for shipping, you're going to be out around $3500.

Here's the link to the one IPT Performance sells:
http://www.importperformancetrans.c...nd-30-40le-performance-transmission-4341.html

**Edit: I missed reading the post above. The one Rock Auto sells might be the ticket, especially with a 3 year warranty. You do have to pay the cost to ship your old transmission back to them for the core but I gather it will be under $200. Here's a link to information about their rebuilt trans:
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4763076&cc=1388707&jsn=393&jsn=393

 

[amalik]

I guess it depends on how much you have invested in your truck whether it's worth the investment. If you still have a relatively low mileage engine and you've done lots of upgrades to the suspension and other areas of the rig, it's worth spending the money on a transmission.

[MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] is in the same situation right now. His transmission imploded last week. It's grinding in gear and doesn't move. We thought it could be the flex plate, but after pulling off the access plate at the bottom of the bell housing, we can see the flex plate spinning. Also, there wasn't any noise while in park, and if it was the flex plate, it would have been making noise in park. As soon as the transmission is shifted into gear, major grinding noise coming from the transmission. We thought it could be the transfer case, but the sound is loudest directly under the transmission.

We discussed the options but agreed going with a rebuilt transmission is the way to go. With a used one, you are taking a huge risk that the previous owner took care of it with regular fluid changes and you're also taking a risk that the seller is being honest about the mileage that was on the vehicle it came out of. it's a huge amount of labor just to find out the used transmission you bought is a piece of crap.

Camelback Toyota sells an automatic transmission rebuilt by Toyota for $2300 and it includes the torque converter. But, Camelback doesn't ship transmissions. We'd have to drive from San Jose, California to Phoenix, Arizona to pick it up and drop off the old one for the core they require. 11 hour drive one way but it just might be worth it. There's another company in New Jersey called IPT Performance that rebuilds them stronger than factory. But, after you pay for the rebuilt trans, rebuilt torque converter and pay for shipping, you're going to be out around $3500.

Here's the link to the one IPT Performance sells:
A340E, A340F, A340E, A341E, A340E and 30-40LE Performance Transmission

Right, I've been following his situation in the other threads.

I know about IPT, wasn't aware Camelback won't ship.

So, are ya'll headed to AZ or what!? Split the drive between the 2 of you each way, and it doesn't sound that bad.

 

[mtbtim]

Right, I've been following his situation in the other threads.

I know about IPT, wasn't aware Camelback won't ship.

So, are ya'll headed to AZ or what!? Split the drive between the 2 of you each way, and it doesn't sound that bad.

I think Rock Auto has the better deal. I spoke with Camelback and they only give the standard 1 year warranty. According to the Rock Auto web page, they offer a 3 year warranty and they ship.

It would be nice to get a transmission remanufactured by Toyota, but the 3 year warranty does sound kind of nice. But, depending on how much you drive, that's still not that long of a warranty. Say you drive quite a bit every year, 25,000 miles, that's still only a warranty for 75,000 miles. Sean probably only drives around 15,000 miles per year so that would be a warranty for only 45,000 miles.

It's ultimately Sean's decision but I'm trying to help him with the research.

 

[MudMud]

Man now I'm nervous. I just got a 98 4Runner, my first one ever, and it has a whine that goes away when I let off the gas and changes pitch as I accelerate. I was thinking it was coming from the rear diff, but it's hard to tell when you're going 70 down the highway. I guess I'll drive it til it dies.

 

[johnbyebye]

Man now I'm nervous. I just got a 98 4Runner, my first one ever, and it has a whine that goes away when I let off the gas and changes pitch as I accelerate. I was thinking it was coming from the rear diff, but it's hard to tell when you're going 70 down the highway. I guess I'll drive it til it dies.

Block the tires, set the parking brake, and put it in gear. Listen for any whining at the transmission bell housing.

 

[MudMud]

Block the tires, set the parking brake, and put it in gear. Listen for any whining at the transmission bell housing.

My whine doesn't occur unless I'm actually accelerating. I don't hear it at idle (Doesn't mean it's not there, I just don't hear it). I was originally thinking it might be the diff since when accelerating the gears would be under more load. I'll need to get under it this weekend and try to figure it out.

 

[johnbyebye]

My whine doesn't occur unless I'm actually accelerating. I don't hear it at idle (Doesn't mean it's not there, I just don't hear it). I was originally thinking it might be the diff since when accelerating the gears would be under more load. I'll need to get under it this weekend and try to figure it out.

If the whine changes pitch right after a shift or goes away in overdrive, P, or N then it likely is your torque converter. A whining pump makes noise regardless of the gear since it always runs. On my last vehicle a whine that only occurred while accelerating ended up being the pinion bearings.

 

[19963.4lsr5]

If you pull the dipstick with it making the noise is the oil foamy and full of air bubbles? Level is good?


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[HammerHead]

Update........well, the noise isn't from the tranny. It it's coming from the timing chain cover. So it looks like a new jdm motor is the n my future. 294k so I guess only reasonable.

Anyone have a good job source?? I don't want to get one from the tsunami.

 

[T4R2014]

Update........well, the noise isn't from the tranny. It it's coming from the timing chain cover. So it looks like a new jdm motor is the n my future. 294k so I guess only reasonable.

Anyone have a good job source?? I don't want to get one from the tsunami.

You have a timing belt. Maybe it's just a bearing in a roller or something? Do the timing belt and see what happens.

 

[HammerHead]

You have a timing belt. Maybe it's just a bearing in a roller or something? Do the timing belt and see what happens.

All of that was changed last September

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Keep seeing this thread bumped, and I just couldn't hold back any longer.