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Trd pro lift question
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TRDPRO4LIFE
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Sweeeeeeeet! Thanks for the help boss!
simonsay
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I have 285 and so do many others on the 7. Haven't had any issues airing down or any issues that I've read about. Discount tire even installed them for me with no problems. I opted not to have the spacers. Doing research on the spacers I couldn't find the answer I was looking for, so I decided against them.
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Carolina Roscoe
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When it's time for me to Re-shoe, If I keep the Spidertrax I'm going with 275. If I shed the Spidertrax I'm going with 285.:hatsoff:
CharlestonFisher
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I skipped the spacers and have no rubbing issues with my Nitto Trail Grappler 285s. Same can't be said for one 5th Gen friend of mine, he's got 285s and is talking body chop... I blame the spacers.
Scott @ Uwharrie Off-Road Training Center is against spacers for wheeling. He doesn't like dissimilar metals interacting in high stress situations. Too much can go wrong for a little wider stance.
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Carolina Roscoe
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Yeah, couldn't turn it down. Dropped it off in the morning, picked it up after work. And there's always the bonus of having a shop back their work, in case something f..ks up.
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Carolina Roscoe
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I've really enjoyed seeing the progress you've made on the Vehicle over the months. Very smart and Classy. :thumb3:
Thank you, Sir. That made the decision much easier. I'm going to be installing the Bushwacker fender flares relatively soon, so I want to make sure the tires will be filling up the additional 1.5" of tire coverage they provide.
From the research I've done, there's no risk or disadvantage to running modernized wheel spacers like Spidertrax or All-Pro as long as you do the install properly i.e. cleaned mating surfaces, red loctite, and proper torquing of the bolts in the correct pattern.
Still doesn't stop there from being different schools of thought on the matter, though! I'll report back with some pics and impressions after I install everything.
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TRDPRO4LIFE
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If you are going to install the fender flares then go 285's. I have that setup and opted for the spacers to fill the extra width the flares provide. I think it will be the perfect stance. Here's a pic with the Toytec Lift kit, 285's, Fender flares but NO spacers yet.
This should give you an idea of the extra width provided by the flares and why spacers IMO will give it the perfect stance.
This should give you an idea of the extra width provided by the flares and why spacers IMO will give it the perfect stance.
Thanks everyone for all the info and inspiration, I ordered the Toytec 2" lift and 275/70-17 KO2's. The MTR's were tempting by the look alone, but for performance I think the KO2's will be better.
I found a local shop that specializes in custom 4x4 builds, Main Line Overland in West Chester, PA. They quoted $717.50 for the lift install, tire mounting and balancing, and alignment ($522.50 for the install alone). I feel it's fair given their experience over a regular mechanic/shop, and it saves me a day of work.
Pictures to come.
I found a local shop that specializes in custom 4x4 builds, Main Line Overland in West Chester, PA. They quoted $717.50 for the lift install, tire mounting and balancing, and alignment ($522.50 for the install alone). I feel it's fair given their experience over a regular mechanic/shop, and it saves me a day of work.
Pictures to come.
Seems pretty steep. I had a reputable shop in Denver install and align for 325. As far as balancing the tires..I just took the truck back to discount since they have lifetime balancing.
Yeah, that's much less. I used to live in Denver 10 years ago, great city. Cost of living is a bit more out here, especially in the area this shop is in. Considering that and that they specialize in custom builds, I figured it would be a bit more than most places. But, that's nearly twice what you paid. How many hours did the install take?
They estimated 3.5-5.5 hours on the install @ $95/hr, so if it's on the lower end it could very well come in around $332.50.
I dropped it off at 9 and picked it up at 1. I think they had to wait about an hr for the alignment rack to open up too. It isnt very intensive so I think 3.5hrs is plenty of time. I would have done it myself but its cold here and I didnt feel like wrestling around with a spring compressor to install when I would just have to drive it somewhere to align anyway.
Good to know, thanks! I'll keep a tab on the timing.
Boyds4Runner
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Finally got it on
When I purchased the Toytec 2" TRD lift kit back in November 2015, I asked for the Sway-Away 1 and 1/2" rear instead of the 2" Toytec Superflex spring that was part of the original kit. This coincided with SAW being bought by AFE. So Sway-Away (SAW) was moving their equipment and offices to the AFE location. Took about 6 weeks after the order was placed to receive the rear springs.
Technical issues with my ABS delayed me getting the kit installed. Turned out a bad driver for the LED headlight was triggering ABS computer to claim an error.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/211500-abs-brake-slip-indicator-blinking-multi-terrain-trouble.html#post2217619
All that got fixed so finally in mid-January I was able to get the local off-road fab shop to install it. Alignment was done at a different shop and the steering wheel is not straight but I'm taking it to Toyota for an alignment as I no longer trust the original shop that did the alignment after a failed second attempt to have it straightened out.
Front coil has the 1" thick, lower perch and a 1/2" top spacer. Rear has the SAW 1 and 1/2" coil in silver (although it did raise the rear about 2", since there is no label on the springs I don't know what I really got).
Stock Nitto Terra Grappler 265/70/17 with 18K miles.
No wheel spacers.
Driver Side Lower shock perch installed at original 2nd ring from bottom on shock. Passenger side lower shock perch on the same 1st ring from the bottom.
I like the ride as it is not much stiffer but that is subjective to each person. I love the look with the exception that I would like the rear to sit a little bit lower. That's why I asked for the SAW 1 and 1/2" rear as opposed to the Toytec 2" rear. But maybe the SAW being 12% stiffer as opposed to the Toytec 10% and there not being any real weight in the rear I might still be getting 2" rear lift.
The small lift did give me extra confidence and performance in the 29" snow-fall we recently had in my area of the East Coast. I got through a long and un-plowed street and court and just had to shovel a short path to the ruts I had just made while turning around in the court.
Measurements were taken in same spot in the garage yielding consistent numbers however they are from the ground to the fender.
Front Passenger Before - 35 and 1/2"
Front Passenger After - 37 and 1/4"
Rear Passenger Before - 37 and 1/2"
Rear Passenger After - 39 and 1/2"
Front Driver Before - 35 and 1/4"
Front Driver After - 37 and 1/8"
Rear Driver Before 37"
Rear Driver After 39"
Looks like bigger tires are in my future. I would like the 285 KO2's but as this is my daily driver the 275's might create less wear on the drive components for the 4 or 5 times I get to go wheeling per year.
Before pictures are without snow. After pictures have SnowZilla 2016 leftover snow piles. Sorry for poor picture quality, I tried lightening the wheel-well area to show the new gap.
When I purchased the Toytec 2" TRD lift kit back in November 2015, I asked for the Sway-Away 1 and 1/2" rear instead of the 2" Toytec Superflex spring that was part of the original kit. This coincided with SAW being bought by AFE. So Sway-Away (SAW) was moving their equipment and offices to the AFE location. Took about 6 weeks after the order was placed to receive the rear springs.
Technical issues with my ABS delayed me getting the kit installed. Turned out a bad driver for the LED headlight was triggering ABS computer to claim an error.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/211500-abs-brake-slip-indicator-blinking-multi-terrain-trouble.html#post2217619
All that got fixed so finally in mid-January I was able to get the local off-road fab shop to install it. Alignment was done at a different shop and the steering wheel is not straight but I'm taking it to Toyota for an alignment as I no longer trust the original shop that did the alignment after a failed second attempt to have it straightened out.
Front coil has the 1" thick, lower perch and a 1/2" top spacer. Rear has the SAW 1 and 1/2" coil in silver (although it did raise the rear about 2", since there is no label on the springs I don't know what I really got).
Stock Nitto Terra Grappler 265/70/17 with 18K miles.
No wheel spacers.
Driver Side Lower shock perch installed at original 2nd ring from bottom on shock. Passenger side lower shock perch on the same 1st ring from the bottom.
I like the ride as it is not much stiffer but that is subjective to each person. I love the look with the exception that I would like the rear to sit a little bit lower. That's why I asked for the SAW 1 and 1/2" rear as opposed to the Toytec 2" rear. But maybe the SAW being 12% stiffer as opposed to the Toytec 10% and there not being any real weight in the rear I might still be getting 2" rear lift.
The small lift did give me extra confidence and performance in the 29" snow-fall we recently had in my area of the East Coast. I got through a long and un-plowed street and court and just had to shovel a short path to the ruts I had just made while turning around in the court.
Measurements were taken in same spot in the garage yielding consistent numbers however they are from the ground to the fender.
Front Passenger Before - 35 and 1/2"
Front Passenger After - 37 and 1/4"
Rear Passenger Before - 37 and 1/2"
Rear Passenger After - 39 and 1/2"
Front Driver Before - 35 and 1/4"
Front Driver After - 37 and 1/8"
Rear Driver Before 37"
Rear Driver After 39"
Looks like bigger tires are in my future. I would like the 285 KO2's but as this is my daily driver the 275's might create less wear on the drive components for the 4 or 5 times I get to go wheeling per year.
Before pictures are without snow. After pictures have SnowZilla 2016 leftover snow piles. Sorry for poor picture quality, I tried lightening the wheel-well area to show the new gap.
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