Unner's Build, 2001 T4R 4x4

Instructions? You read those? llol

All you guys with these nice shock set-ups are gonna end up costing me a ton of cash. Thanks for the feedback on performance so far. Post up when you get them offroad into some rocky stuff. I bet the shine even more.

I feel like that's 99% of the reason these get installed wrong. "Instructions?
I'm a man. I don't need instructions. These are just shocks. I know what I'm doing."

They are pricey, but you can always sell them for decent money since they're rebuildable, they're rebuildable so they have a fairly infinite lifespan, and their performance is on another level. I wish I had these in Death Valley. We would have covered twice as much ground in the same amount of time haha

I love the 1st gen. From Alaska, now that is a drive.

I thought you were going to drop a bomb on us and say you bought the white TRD PRO in the background.

The Kings look great.

Any trips planned for the near future?

The first gen actually had Alabama tags, but dealer ones. The local Toyota dealer here is owned by a guy who has an obsession with old FJ's. There's probably 15-20 of them stashed away in different spots. He's got a super clean old pickup one in the showroom, a couple sitting around in a fenced in lot, a storage building out back that's got like 4 or 5 in it. He also used to have two Twin Turbo MK4 Supras in there.

I got invited to join his land cruiser club one day when he and another salesman came out drooling over the 4Runner, I just never had time to actually go to their meets or whatever it is they do. Also don't have facebook where I feel like they coordinate everything.

No TRD Pro plans for me, I don't have that kind of money haha.

King blue is a nice color!

No concrete plans for any future trips, hopefully a couple short ones here down south this spring before it gets miserably hot outside. I hope I can get at least a week long trip in March, not sure if I'll be able to or where I'll go. Back to Moab maybe, maybe NM and AZ, back to California isn't off the table, and I really want to see Baja California in Mexico, but that's very far, and not somewhere I want to go by myself...
 
I might have missed it, but what are the part numbers for those rear King shocks? Do you know how much travel they have. I know someone who is selling some King resi shocks here because he got the wrong size.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/d/25x8-king-smoothie-shocks/6506871360.html

The ones that [MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION] has are 8 inch travel. I forget the part number. Those ones you posted won't work with a 4runner unless you have custom mounts made since they have the eye style top mount rather than the stud type that the stock mount uses.
 
I might have missed it, but what are the part numbers for those rear King shocks? Do you know how much travel they have. I know someone who is selling some King resi shocks here because he got the wrong size.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/d/25x8-king-smoothie-shocks/6506871360.html

25001-334A That's the part number for what I have. Those won't fit without a custom mount, and being a 2.5 inch shock it would be really tight to outboard those. They're 8.5 inch travel shocks that I have.

The ones that [MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION] has are 8 inch travel. I forget the part number. Those ones you posted won't work with a 4runner unless you have custom mounts made since they have the eye style top mount rather than the stud type that the stock mount uses.

Nailed it!
 
The ones that [MENTION=116387]UHAPPY nner[/MENTION] has are 8 inch travel. I forget the part number. Those ones you posted won't work with a 4runner unless you have custom mounts made since they have the eye style top mount rather than the stud type that the stock mount uses.

Good. Now I don't have to look into it. They were ordered for a 4th gen, but it turns out he needs a longer shock.
[MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION]
Also interested to see if you can get the rotation thing sorted out. That seems to be the issue with those thing. Glad they feel good though.
 
I might have missed it, but what are the part numbers for those rear King shocks? Do you know how much travel they have. I know someone who is selling some King resi shocks here because he got the wrong size.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/d/25x8-king-smoothie-shocks/6506871360.html

The ones that [MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION] has are 8 inch travel. I forget the part number. Those ones you posted won't work with a 4runner unless you have custom mounts made since they have the eye style top mount rather than the stud type that the stock mount uses.

Or just get these
 
Good. Now I don't have to look into it. They were ordered for a 4th gen, but it turns out he needs a longer shock.

[MENTION=116387]Unner[/MENTION]
Also interested to see if you can get the rotation thing sorted out. That seems to be the issue with those thing. Glad they feel good though.

They definitely rotate much less than they did before, I tightened them up maybe 2-300 miles ago and now the driver side one doesn't seem to move, but the passenger side has moved a little bit. I'm gonna try tightening a bit more this weekend, and maybe loosening the reservoirs and rotating them on the shock body. I also need to test them out on dirt to see if they rotate or not.


Problem with those adapters is they make your shock super long at full droop.
 
In other news, last weekend I winched a neighbor out of his front yard... He was trying to pull a stump with his truck and then he ended up in the front yard digging holes with his two wheel drive truck. Didn't have anything to anchor myself on other than the curb. Threw it in neutral with the parking brake on and tires up on the curb and pulled this pig of a truck out of the yard. It was good I stopped or I'm pretty sure they'd have been stuck there until the ground dried...

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The winch did good, at first it pulled the 4Runner a little, but once the tire molded onto the curb and the front suspension compressed a little it started to pull his Ram 2500. He said he couldn't justify the 4x4 version when he bought this, maybe next time he'll reconsider.
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You'll be happy to know I've been selecting pictures from my California trip. So far I've made it through the first 3 days haha. Right on track for a 6 month turn around time...
 
In other news, last weekend I winched a neighbor out of his front yard... He was trying to pull a stump with his truck and then he ended up in the front yard digging holes with his two wheel drive truck. Didn't have anything to anchor myself on other than the curb. Threw it in neutral with the parking brake on and tires up on the curb and pulled this pig of a truck out of the yard. It was good I stopped or I'm pretty sure they'd have been stuck there until the ground dried...

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The winch did good, at first it pulled the 4Runner a little, but once the tire molded onto the curb and the front suspension compressed a little it started to pull his Ram 2500. He said he couldn't justify the 4x4 version when he bought this, maybe next time he'll reconsider.

[MENTION=143526]theesotericone[/MENTION]

You'll be happy to know I've been selecting pictures from my California trip. So far I've made it through the first 3 days haha. Right on track for a 6 month turn around time...

Very nice. I sure hope he was appreciative for your help. Get the stump out?

I have a neighbor and his son who are punch drunk on Cummins engines. Yet they both forget they are put in a Dodge. The father asks me last night to help him bleed his brakes on a 96 3500 in which he just changed shoes and the cylinders. So he decideds he wants a full bleed, and wants to do the front too. These calipers look every day of twenty two years old and instead of using Kroil, some MAP and even my 1/4 impact to possibly remove the rusted in bleeders, he instead goes at them full force with a socket and ratchet. Needless to say today he is installing new calipers. :lol:
 
Very nice. I sure hope he was appreciative for your help. Get the stump out?

I have a neighbor and his son who are punch drunk on Cummins engines. Yet they both forget they are put in a Dodge. The father asks me last night to help him bleed his brakes on a 96 3500 in which he just changed shoes and the cylinders. So he decideds he wants a full bleed, and wants to do the front too. These calipers look every day of twenty two years old and instead of using Kroil, some MAP and even my 1/4 impact to possibly remove the rusted in bleeders, he instead goes at them full force with a socket and ratchet. Needless to say today he is installing new calipers. :lol:

I did not get the stump out, I had to leave them with something to work on themselves.

It must be a Dodge thing, we wouldn't get it.
 
I didn't get anything done on the 4Runner this weekend because it rained all weekend, but I did work on the California trip report and rolled over 246k miles. I might do this trip report in multiple sections. I took ALOT of pictures over those 2 weeks...

I'm hoping I'll be able to make a fairly long trip somewhere at the end of the month. I'll have 8-10 days if it all works out. The Easter Jeep Safari is in Moab during that time, so I probably don't want to go to Moab and deal with the crowds. Any suggestions on places to go?
 
Georgia Traverse, Kentucky Adventure Tour, Daniel Boone Backcountry Byway

They're all on my list to do eventually.

Those are all good options! I hadn't heard of the Daniel Boone Backcountry Byway before. Looks interesting.

The group that does the Backcountry Discovery Routes just released a new route that runs through Virginia and into Pennsylvania along the Appalachians. It doesn't look like it's all dirt road kind of travel like the ones out west are, but it could still be fun. There's also the Tenessee Dirt Devil near Nashville.

If I don't want to go too far I'll probably do one of these that you suggested. Part of me also wants to go to Arizona or somewhere out west. Maybe even back to California. So much I didn't get to see in the 2 weeks I was there. It'll be last minute if I do go somewhere.
 
Got a bunch of maintenance done this weekend. First thing I did was clean the MAF sensor. I can't remember the last time I did this, but I think it's been awhile. It was pretty dirty.

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Then I replaced the AC idler pulley with a new OEM Toyota part. I was getting a slight squeak on damp/wet starts and an occasional squeal if it was wet out. Hopefully this fixes it. The pulley definitely sounds a little rough spinning it off the truck compared to the new one.

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The dipstick O ring had a lot of build up around it from what I assume is years of slightly leaking. I wiped the area as best as I could, blew it with compressed air, and then pulled the dipstick to replace the O ring. That took all of 10 minutes.


I also changed the oil cooler seals as I had a very slight oil leak from them as well. While I was in there I drained the coolant since it was due for a change, and replaced the oil cooler coolant hoses that I've had since I did the timing belt 2.5 years ago. These hoses really aren't as bad to replace as everyone says. A pair of needle nose vise grips got the hose clamps off that are on the oil cooler and block, a pair of medium size channel locks got the hose clamp at the water pump by feeding the pliers through the belt kinda. After that it's just a matter of breaking the hoses loose from the metal pipes which is fairly easily done with a pair of pliers and a slight twist. Pull the hoses, break the 24mm bolt holding the oil cooler on and try to get it out without making too much of a mess. Then clean it up, replace the O ring, and the washer seal/O ring that goes on the 24 mm bolt and put it back together. The tricky part is keeping the O ring that goes between the block and cooler in place. Mine fell out the first time, but thankfully stayed in the second time I tried. After that slide the new hoses on which is easier than taking the old ones off, fill up the coolant, run it for a bit, and then I changed the oil to make sure it wasn't contaminated. I only had 3k miles on it, but it's cheap insurance.

After this I pulled the skid plates, changed the transmission fluid, front diff fluid, and oil change mentioned above. I degreased the skid plate from the oil that spills on it during oil changes and also cleaned up the underside a little bit from the blown CV I had last summer, and the couple leaks I've fixed recently. Not perfect, but better. It'll get dirty anyway...

I've also had a very annoying rattle from the CB antenna mount. I fixed it for awhile with some door edge gaurd on the hatch, but that fell off and the rattle came back. I tried a few other options but nothing stopped it. Eventually I put some of the loop side of Velcro on it where it would rattle against the hatch. It seems to have cured 90% of the rattle.

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I've also had a lot of rattling and some slight shaking coming from my rear swing out. I had a good bit of play in the handle, but nothing I tried fixed it. I hit a speed bump the other day and it sounded like someone was banging two pots together so I decided I have to do something about this. I checked everything and noticed the handle was moving a very little bit on the swing arm pivot bolt. I got the bolt to tighten maybe 1/16 of a turn, but that was all it needed to get rid of all the movement and the rattle. SO MUCH BETTER!

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Then I checked out how the new shocks flex and how my old bump stops work with them. These pictures are with the passenger side fully extended, but the driver side is just starting to sit on the bump stop. There's probably another inch or so of compression left in the bump stop. So they're a little long, but they'll work for now. This is as much flex as I could get out of it without driving really far away. I got lots of looks from people out walking at the park...

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I still have a slight rotation issue with them, but it isn't that bad. In 700 miles of street driving they've rotated just a little bit. I need to get under there and tighten the uppers a tad more and rotate the resi's on the shock body. Hopefully that'll stop it for good. I might get time to do that this week.

Then I gave the outside some love. The first bath in almost 4 months, and she shines really well. I forget how good it looks clean.

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Drives unbelievably well for a rig with this many miles, and looks good too!
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They're calling for severe weather with golf ball to tennis ball sized hail tomorrow here. Guess I'll fight for a spot in the parking garage in the morning...
 
Then I replaced the AC idler pulley with a new OEM Toyota part. I was getting a slight squeak on damp/wet starts and an occasional squeal if it was wet out......

They're calling for severe weather with golf ball to tennis ball sized hail tomorrow here. Guess I'll fight for a spot in the parking garage in the morning...

That dang pulley started making noise on mine the other day, too. A very faint squeal, but it's there. It feels good to knock out all those little annoyances, doesn't it?

DO NOT let your rig get hailed on. Fight hard, fight well.
 
That dang pulley started making noise on mine the other day, too. A very faint squeal, but it's there. It feels good to knock out all those little annoyances, doesn't it?

DO NOT let your rig get hailed on. Fight hard, fight well.

That pulley is a 10 minute job max, and that includes the time you'll spend playing with the old pulley and comparing to the new one. The part number is 88440-35060. Unfortunately the bearing itself isn't replaceable on these pulleys or I'd replace it in my old one and have a spare ready to go.

It feels great to knock out little stuff like that. It just makes it feel so much more solid when those little rattles, squeaks, and squeals aren't there. I also replaced the piece or rubber I glued to my skid plate where the steering cross member would bump it and make a clunking noise. The old one had gotten hard and started making noise again. Now there's no more clunking pulling into driveways.

I worked on all those little things all day Saturday, and that evening I went on a short drive across town and it just felt good.

This time of year in Alabama is when we start to get all our severe weather. I'm going to do everything in my power to get a parking spot in the parking garage. Golf ball sized hail is no joke, tennis ball sized hail is crazy. Both would ruin my freshly painted hood, new windshield, and probably my fenders, hatch, and lots of other stuff...
 
Last weekend we went camping near the beach again. We stayed at Point Washington State Park again, it’s a 10 minute drive to some very nice beaches and not a very touristy area which is nice. Not many pictures from here. The new suspension did well, but there weren’t many places to really test it out and we only had a couple miles of dirt inside the park to cover.

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So this week I went for a drive around the Tuskegee National Forest to really try out the suspension. Not any real trails here, but a decent amount of dirt roads. Unfortunately, most of the cool looking roads/trails were closed. I spent about 2 hours driving around out here, covered 32 miles, and my elevation ranged from 153 ft to 477 ft above sea level. I’m honestly surprised I was over 400 ft above sea level.

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I didn’t air down because there wasn’t any true wheeling, and I didn’t want to deal with airing back up. I am very happy with how the suspension performed, this was the first time I really had it on dirt for an extended amount of time. The rear passenger shock did not rotate at all, the driver side didn’t rotate until I got on a very straight wide road where I really pushed it. Then it rotated a little bit, I rotated it back for now and will tighten some more or adjust the piggyback mounting next week. Holes that made me cringe weren’t bad, and the suspension ate up washboards and other “irregularities” in the road. After my session of very spirited driving I touched the shocks just to see how hot they were. The rear shock bodies were warm to the touch, the piggybacks were not. The front shocks weren’t warm either, as far as I could tell. I should have checked to see how warm my LC shocks were when we were leaving Death Valley, those things must have been smoking…

While I was in the woods I wanted to test out different settings on the compression adjusters and see how the changes feel in dirt, but I completely forgot about that so I guess I’ve got a reason to get back into the dirt sometime soon.

Here’s some pictures from Tuskegee NF.

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Unfortunately this cool little trail looked like it was abandoned and the brush had grown very thick over it.

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Love the King blue.

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The dogwoods were blooming.

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Messing around on a dirt berm.

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Then I came across an area that apparently had some fire damage, not sure how long ago this happened.

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I’m pretty sure this is where my elevation was highest.

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The wide open road I was working the suspension on.

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Posing on a bridge that crosses the creek/river that winds through the forest.

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Great pics! How are you still liking the Coopers?

Thanks! I love the Coopers still, they're wearing perfectly, grip amazingly (on and off road), and are still quiet for what they are. I will most likely be coming back to them whenever I need new tires. Sorry I didn't get back quickly, I was out of town over the weekend in New Orleans. Some swamp and alligator pics to come later this week.
 

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