V6 vs V8
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myrunner said:
Huh? You were the one who wrote the following:
myrunner said:
Saying you don't like the V6 is one thing, but calling everyone with a V6 "cheap" and telling them they don't drive a "decent" truck is insulting.
The admins and mods use their best judgment in keeping this forum an enjoyable place for folks to visit. If you don't like that policy, go find another forum - there are plenty to choose from.myrunner said:
peter78
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Here we are comparing BIG and BIGGER engines while the rest of the world is in (well) a different world. Their biggest engine is our old 3rd generation 3.4 V6. I am surprised the 3.0 liter is a 4-cyl. If that is true, it must be a monster 4 cyl. Also, I assume the 3.0 is a diesel....maybe???Wai said:
Thai
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myrunner said:
MYRUNNER, you need to read the message behind my previous posts to see the two warnings.:rolleye2:
This forum is for EVERYONE. Again, there's NO NEED TO INSULT EACH OTHER...we're all siblings here.
If you want to know what I can do, then feel free to push further.
Like what Gatorgreg said, there are plenty other 4runner forums...i can recommend them to you if you like. PM me if you need more info.
Thanks...and BE NICE.
waskillywabbit
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Minus the creaky joints part
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Wai
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peter78 said:
Oh yes you're right. Sorry I forgot to mention that the 3.0L Turbo is a diesel engine! And that's the engine that comes with a hood scoop for the intercooler. So the hood scoop, for them, is actually functional.
I'm surprised that the diesel engine is actually the most expensive engine in the lineup. It has some new technology called UNIBUS (Uniform Bulky Combustion System).
"I'm surprised that the diesel engine is actually the most expensive engine in the lineup."
The diesel costs more to make, quite a bit more. Its the stronger parts, the fuel pump, the turbo and more work to get the tolerances needed.
If the US cleans up it's diesel fuel we may see some of those diesels we read about.
I still have the question. If a V6 and V8 were driven together, same speeds all the time, would they come closer to the same gas mileage?
Are there two of you out there that could get together and try it out.
The diesel costs more to make, quite a bit more. Its the stronger parts, the fuel pump, the turbo and more work to get the tolerances needed.
If the US cleans up it's diesel fuel we may see some of those diesels we read about.
I still have the question. If a V6 and V8 were driven together, same speeds all the time, would they come closer to the same gas mileage?
Are there two of you out there that could get together and try it out.
I have one of the first production V6's sold in the US. 9,000 miles so far, almost exclusively 87 octane. Like Sac State, I tend to drive conservatively, although that does not mean timid -- just accelerate smoothly, keep at or very close to posted speed limits, cruise control on the highway for longer trips.
Average is about 17 mpg city, 22 mpg highway. That's measured, not the computer.
Oddly enough, the last trip (1,500 miles), the trip computer came much closer to the real mileage.
Average is about 17 mpg city, 22 mpg highway. That's measured, not the computer.
Oddly enough, the last trip (1,500 miles), the trip computer came much closer to the real mileage.
Sludge Common in Toyota Engines?
I've been monitoring this thread and others regarding the subject of sludge. Reason is I just scheduled a 15,000 mile maintenance with my dealer on my '03 Runner SR5 V8, and he strongly recommended an engine flush. When I pressed him as to why, in that I've never needed a flush in any vehicle I've ever owned (I change my oil at 3,000 mile intervals religiously. Don't care what the manual says), he asked me if I've ever owned Toyotas before, that engine sludge is a "common condition". Is there any truth to this, or is this just a scare tactic designed to boost their profits?
Thanks,
I've been monitoring this thread and others regarding the subject of sludge. Reason is I just scheduled a 15,000 mile maintenance with my dealer on my '03 Runner SR5 V8, and he strongly recommended an engine flush. When I pressed him as to why, in that I've never needed a flush in any vehicle I've ever owned (I change my oil at 3,000 mile intervals religiously. Don't care what the manual says), he asked me if I've ever owned Toyotas before, that engine sludge is a "common condition". Is there any truth to this, or is this just a scare tactic designed to boost their profits?
Thanks,
toybox
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I had the sludge in my Sienna and had to get a new engine.
That said I don't believe that this problem is systemic for Toyota. It was a specific engine that had this problem and that is it.
This is definitly a scare tactic and it pisses me off that he even said that shit to you. I think the owner of that dealership should be aware of how he is describing ALL of toyota products as being suseptable to this isolated problem.
Even on the engine that is suseptable, why should I pay more for Toyota's screw up. I'd let it die and have them replace it before I spend more of my money. That engine has had its warranty extended to 8 years so you could still get plenty of miles out of it before you had to worry about incurring the cost yourself.
That said I don't believe that this problem is systemic for Toyota. It was a specific engine that had this problem and that is it.
This is definitly a scare tactic and it pisses me off that he even said that shit to you. I think the owner of that dealership should be aware of how he is describing ALL of toyota products as being suseptable to this isolated problem.
Even on the engine that is suseptable, why should I pay more for Toyota's screw up. I'd let it die and have them replace it before I spend more of my money. That engine has had its warranty extended to 8 years so you could still get plenty of miles out of it before you had to worry about incurring the cost yourself.
Re: Sludge Common in Toyota Engines?
Total BS, Toybox is correct. Ask them to put their recommendation in writing Then you can send a copy to Toyota Corp. They will then kiss their dealship goodbye. The Toyota 4.7 V8 is one of the best V8's made. It is very easy on oil, based on used oil analysis. 5K mile oil change interval with dino oil is conservative with this engine and after 200K miles if you opened it up would be clean. The dealers just keep on coming up with more BS to suck money from the uneducated consummer. Glad to see you were not fooled.
starflt said:I've been monitoring this thread and others regarding the subject of sludge. Reason is I just scheduled a 15,000 mile maintenance with my dealer on my '03 Runner SR5 V8, and he strongly recommended an engine flush. When I pressed him as to why, in that I've never needed a flush in any vehicle I've ever owned (I change my oil at 3,000 mile intervals religiously. Don't care what the manual says), he asked me if I've ever owned Toyotas before, that engine sludge is a "common condition". Is there any truth to this, or is this just a scare tactic designed to boost their profits?
Thanks,
Total BS, Toybox is correct. Ask them to put their recommendation in writing
Then you can send a copy to Toyota Corp. They will then kiss their dealship goodbye. The Toyota 4.7 V8 is one of the best V8's made. It is very easy on oil, based on used oil analysis. 5K mile oil change interval with dino oil is conservative with this engine and after 200K miles if you opened it up would be clean. The dealers just keep on coming up with more BS to suck money from the uneducated consummer. Glad to see you were not fooled.