Volant Cold Air Intake

Hey guys,

While i had originally planned on being one of the first to have the intake installed...i have been on a month+ business trip and it seems now, that i might finally get to go home in the next few days.


Wanted to know, as was previously posted, what is the required out of pocket items needed to complete the install of the intake. I have heard ziptie or a 1/8th" hose clamp (my personal choice).

I guess Ill call Jason here in a day or two and speak with him reguarding the updates that Volant might offer in their now released kits for us.
 
Casper said:
Hey guys,

While i had originally planned on being one of the first to have the intake installed...i have been on a month+ business trip and it seems now, that i might finally get to go home in the next few days.


Wanted to know, as was previously posted, what is the required out of pocket items needed to complete the install of the intake. I have heard ziptie or a 1/8th" hose clamp (my personal choice).

I guess Ill call Jason here in a day or two and speak with him reguarding the updates that Volant might offer in their now released kits for us.

Zip tie will probably be best... The flange is tiny and I think you'll have a hard time getting a clamp.

for the '03~'04 kit, the factory 1/8 house was long enough. I don't know about the '05~'06. They are two different kits from what I understand, due to different MAF.

The following is kind of important. If you don't do this in the beginning, you might have to uninstall pretty much everything/

The factory screws that hold the box to the fender, are not threaded all the way up to the head. About an 1/8" near the head is not threaded. This was not a problem with the factory setup, because the factory airbox has a 1/4 rise or so at the screw hole. Since the Volant doesn't have this rise... It won't tighten all the way down.

You could use metal washers to fill this gap, but what I suggest is to get 4 rubber washers(1/4 id or so - it might be a bit tight on the screw, but that's good to avoid rattles further, I think.) to put under and over the housing through the screw. I used faucet washers -big ones- about 5/8 od. :p

There are 3 screws that hold the factory filter housing, but Volant only uses 2 on the back, so it's a bit flimsy without the rubber washers. It also rattles a bit without the washers. I figured that with all the vibration that goes on under full throttle, rubber washers were better idea.

I just got to figure out a way to support the front. It's not too bad right now, but I still feel a bit of rattle under full throttle. It might be acoustic vibration in the engine bay, though. Maybe the fender or the hood?

Any ideas guys?

Hope this helps.
 
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Casper said:
ziptie/hose clamp

and some rubber 1/4" washers....



sounds good. Thanks DD. Did you get my PM back?

That's 1/4" id. and od could be 1/2"+

Yes! Thanks for the PM. Enjoy the install... I had fun with mine.
 
id like to ask some of yall if this kit is worth getting or if my deckplate mod is almost equivalent (including the intake silencer removal)

bout to do the isr and want to know if buying this kit would be worth it at all.
 
ddd269 said:
I just got to figure out a way to support the front. It's not too bad right now, but I still feel a bit of rattle under full throttle. It might be acoustic vibration in the engine bay, though. Maybe the fender or the hood?

Any ideas guys?

Hope this helps.

I'm pretty sure that intense vibration is resonance inside the new airbox. I don't think they did their acoutic homework with the volume of the box and the size of the inlet holes. Rubber washers on the mounting bolts would really help.

All I got for the install was about 2 feet of the small vacuum line cut a piece about 14 inches long and some zip ties. The vacuum line I got was measured in 16ths, I think I got 5/16's and it worked fine. Remember to put the rubber grommet on the airbox first then insert the intake tube into the box then install the filter then attach the intake tube to the throttle body. Make sure the tube is pushed as far as it can go toward the throttle body to ensure clearence of the fan.

I'm gonna let you guys in on a little mod I tried a couple weeks ago and have been monitoring since. I call it the "eyelid cold air inlet" mod (not really though :p ) . The seal between the headlight and the hood is rubber, and when the hood is shut this rubber stripping presses up against the hood to seal out water and air from entering the engine bay at the top of the headlight. I decided this was a most convenient location to let in some cool outside air (and dirt, and water, etc.) because of its proximity to the front hole in the volant airbox. I opened a slit above the passenger headlight about 1/4" wide and 12" long (the width of the headlight). To do this I simply taped down the rubber seal as low as possible, then inserted a few washers at the point on the passenger side where the hood bumper rests. This lifted the hood about a quarter inch on the passenger side and now I have a nice long hardly noticible gap to let cool air straight in to the airbox.

Over the past few weeks its been pretty hot in Denver, and after I completed this mod, I can honestly tell a difference in hot weather engine response. Around town or at idle on a really hot day when the entire engine compartment is extremely hot and the intake charge is hot the engine runs sluggishly, even with the A/C off. I notice that when I get moving for a couple miles, the cooler air coming in from the headlight gap is having an immediate effect on engine response (where without the mod, even with the new intake, it still reacted sluggishly for some time). I didn't go so far as to measure the air at idle and while moving (or with the mod and without the mod for that matter), but I think its a worthwile mod if you don't live in dusty/rainy areas. I've had the gap open for two weeks now and driving in a hard rain for 2 hours I didn't have any signs of water in the airbox or on the filter. Driving on dirt roads for a whole day only resulted in a thin layer of dust inside the engine compartment with a slightly noticible dust on the filter, which hopefully, the filter took car of. A bug filled 3 hour each way roadtrip resulted in no bugs or road debris of any kind in the box nor the engine compartment. I have it taped temporarily but I think after a few more weeks of careful supervision, I will make a more permanent solution.

Check it out and let me know what you think.
 

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Good idea Outrnnr

I was thinking about something like this. Actually more in lines of hooking some sort of duct work to the hood scoop.

This mod works too... Never thought of bringing cool air through there. lol

That's why this forum is so great!

Now, if we can come up with a direct duct from there...

Maybe a pre-filter may help too. I better stop now. I see more money being spent in the near future.
 
damn you all..i havent even had time to install mine yet and yall are already mod'n the mod. Thats my job.
 
Casper said:
damn you all..i havent even had time to install mine yet and yall are already mod'n the mod. Thats my job.

Hurry up and help us with mod ideas!

When are you getting home? What kind of work is it that requires you to be traveling for weeks?

If I were you, I would quit and just work on your cars. :bonk: :cheers:
 
Actually im a Corporate Pilot on business jets... so i knew that this month i wasnt going to see home a whole lot but i hadnt really expected to not see it at all.

As soon as I get home i should have off for a while (3+ weeks) so i can get back into the swing of things for helping out.

As for quiting and going automotive...i've had plenty of offers from a few companies for research and development gigs but theres just something in me that needs to fly...though i have gotten that fix on the ground before in my last project car.
 
Ive just read what you guys are saying out and ddd and I came up with an idea about a week ago that might work if we put our heads together....

The factory hoodscoop on my sport is not in use right now and I was trying to come up with a way to cut the backing out of the grill in it and run some form of hose with pre filter to the general area of the air box so I can actually say the scoop is functional and not just for looks....

I am still looking for ideas so let me know what you think and if it is even worth it at all....


Lee
 
leesdawgs said:
Ive just read what you guys are saying out and ddd and I came up with an idea about a week ago that might work if we put our heads together....

The factory hoodscoop on my sport is not in use right now and I was trying to come up with a way to cut the backing out of the grill in it and run some form of hose with pre filter to the general area of the air box so I can actually say the scoop is functional and not just for looks....

I am still looking for ideas so let me know what you think and if it is even worth it at all....


Lee

Let's do it! :awais:
 
ddd269 said:
Let's do it! :awais:
I'm all about it, I've done some thinking on this idea already and there are a few issues that need to be dealt with:

1) What would you use as a conduit for the air from the scoop? Hoses? That would look pretty bad. How would you connect them from the scoop to the box? Where would the air enter the box? The flow through hoses would be pretty bad depending on what size and smoothness they were. It would be better if we could get some kind of pre-fabbed shaped plastic mold that starts off as the same general shape as the hood scoop, then funnels it in a U-turn (this seems like the most efficient path) to enter the box from the rear while tapering down to a 3 inch diameter pipe. Which leads to size; is there enough room under hood to put something like this? Would you affix it to the hood? and have it interface at the box? Or would you have it affixed to the engine and have it interface at the scoop?

2) Even if you had this nice piece of piping, how would it connect to the box? on top? in the rear? how would you deal with the excess moisture/dirt/road debris that comes with it? How would this pre-filter affect air flow?

I'm not saying it can't be done, because it can. I'm more concerned about reliability of the contraption, looks, and actual functionality. You'd be suprised how hard it is to make air flow through a tube on just ram pressure alone. Luckily for us, our scoop is optimized enough to be able to draw a good amount of air in.

Another thing I thought of was running a hose from the hole in the front of the Volant airbox down behind the passenger headlight to the small black air deflectors at the very bottom of the front passenger fascia. My plan was to cut a hole in these and use a scoop (funnel, vaccum attachment, etc.) to draw air in the hose using ram pressure to force it up into the box. This way air would make it but water wouldn't. The design has some fundamental flaws however. First, two relatively short radius 90 degree turns need to be made on the way to the airbox. This would be a large flow restriction. Other things to condsider are the smootheness and diameter of the hose plus the vertical distance the air has to travel to get up to the airbox. It looks like 1.5" is the max diameter that can fit behind the passenger headlight without cutting or moving anything. I just don't think there would be enough ram air pressure to move a considerable amount of air at non-highway speeds. Secondly, the scoop for the air would be only inches above the road. This means a couple things: Alot of dust and water vapor would make it into the hose, and in the summer it would be pulling hot air from just above the surface of a hot street, maybe even hotter than it would pull from the fender.

After consideration of all the above options, plus a few others, I decided that pulling air from above the passenger headlight is a good way to go (See my pic a couple posts up ^). I opened up a gap a quarter inch wide by twelve inches long. Doesn't sound like much, but it equates to 3 square inches or the area of a 2" diameter hose. Additionally, the air becomes laminated by the smoothness of the front headlight, moves to the top of the headlight, and is "scooped" by the gap between the hood and the top of the light. This entry point is only inches directly in front of the hole in the Volant airbox. Yeah, not all of the air entering will make it into the box, but I've had it like this for a few weeks now and notice a more consistent performance and sound in hot weather driving.

Sorry about the long post, I just wanted to share my thoughts with everyone. :)
 
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ive always thought about using my scoop on my 01

what i was going to do if possible was to do what some muscle cars did.

they would move the whole assembly on top of the manifold and use a stock filter and sit it on top kinda facing the hood scoop entrance.

then using some plastic or fiberglass build a mold where the hood scoop enters and mold it to fit over the filter.

thus making it able to not get any hot air coming into the filter and the hood scoop brings all the air in.

airfilter.jpeg


not where the cone filter is but where the big black block thing is on top.

that would be an interesting mod setup
 
The airbox above the engine suggested by neliconcept might be a good place to start.

By placing the airbox underneath the hood scoop (with some type of foam seal around the edge of the air box) and a ductwork that would fit the front air hole of the Volant air box...

We might have something here.

The question is... is there enough space between the engine and the hood for this mod. Some type of pre filter might be good here. Using stock filter or similar filter would restrict and defeat the purpose, I think.
 
Sutarko,

you have the right idea man...

Might i suggest a flexible coupling, found at like Lowes/Home Depot though.

I have used this same coupling in a few other applications where the need for a larger to smaller flexible connector was needed. I am currently looking for a picture on one of the websites but the internet sucks at the hotel I am at.

Also i would try and locate some silicon hose that does not have the ram intake robbing ribbing that the dryer hose has that you are using. Since the hose is smaller in nature, keeping interior turbulence to a minimum is a must. With larger diameter setups you can get away with it since the of air is less disturbed.
 

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