What did you do to/in your 5th Gen today?!

Now that baby #3 arrived, baby #1 (six year old) sits in the 3rd row in a booster seat. He was starting to complain about the heat back there. Can't say that I blame him. On a warm SoCal day it's as if the rear of the 4Runner is in a whole other climate zip code. To try and make him happy I installed an electric fan on the left quarter glass using the supplied suction cup. The fan came with an adjustable speed controller which I mounted just below the power outlets on the right side where he is seated. The controller is accessible to him while he's seated and to me and the wife when the lift gate is opened.
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It's too bad you can't drive around with the rear window down with the kids back their. Might unintentionally put them to sleep and not in a good way.:painkiller:
 
Spent a couple weeks in Colorado and Utah. Mostly a mt. biking trip but also some fun 4x4 with a buddy and his 200 series LC. Pics are from Pucker Pass, Lockhart Basin and Animas Forks.
 

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Especially in the wonderful bumper to bumper Los Angeles traffic

shit! is it really that bad? I always drive w/ the rear window down and my son is in the third row! Please chime in. I can definitely smell the fumes when reversing but how during drives?
 
shit! is it really that bad? I always drive w/ the rear window down and my son is in the third row! Please chime in. I can definitely smell the fumes when reversing but how during drives?

lower speeds like in the city/burbs driving I can smell exhaust, but at highway/freeway speeds its not bad. Im seriously considering relocating the exhaust out to the side like the Tacomas, but I need to figure out how much it will reduce rear departure clearance.
 
lower speeds like in the city/burbs driving I can smell exhaust, but at highway/freeway speeds its not bad. Im seriously considering relocating the exhaust out to the side like the Tacomas, but I need to figure out how much it will reduce rear departure clearance.

read a few old threads on re-aiming the exhaust... most comments were more interested in the aesthetics of it.. very very very few confirmed whether it helped reduce fumes. My 5 yr old sits back there and this is very concerning
 
Now that baby #3 arrived, baby #1 (six year old) sits in the 3rd row in a booster seat. He was starting to complain about the heat back there. Can't say that I blame him. On a warm SoCal day it's as if the rear of the 4Runner is in a whole other climate zip code. To try and make him happy I installed an electric fan on the left quarter glass using the supplied suction cup. The fan came with an adjustable speed controller which I mounted just below the power outlets on the right side where he is seated. The controller is accessible to him while he's seated and to me and the wife when the lift gate is open.

Good thinking, dad! Nice job.
 
shit! is it really that bad? I always drive w/ the rear window down and my son is in the third row! Please chime in. I can definitely smell the fumes when reversing but how during drives?

That's always been a warning from most manufacturers for as long as I can remember. ( I saw the Washington Senators play at RFK Stadium so...me-brain still goes way back )

I 'think' it has more to do with the way the wind/air swirls around behind the vehicle while moving and picks up the exhaust fumes, supposedly circulating them back into an open rear-of-vehicle window that is open.
 
That's always been a warning from most manufacturers for as long as I can remember. ( I saw the Washington Senators play at RFK Stadium so...me-brain still goes way back )

I 'think' it has more to do with the way the wind/air swirls around behind the vehicle while moving and picks up the exhaust fumes, supposedly circulating them back into an open rear-of-vehicle window that is open.

That's exactly what happens. As an object moves through the air it displaces it and a vacuum is created behind. The air that was displaced has to come rushing back in behind. That's why a wing tapers to a point at the rear, that's why trash always gets sucked behind in the wake of a semi, that's why a boat tapers at the rear (water and air are both "fluids" in this case)...a million examples are possible.

You guys don't smell it? It's really bad with the windows up and the rear hatch open - how could you not smell it? If you're driving with the rear window open you should have all of the rest of the windows open. That way air can flow through the vehicle and fill the vacuum and keep most of it out. If I'm going slow off road I'll sometimes run with ALL of the windows open including the rear so the dogs can hang their heads out the back but not at anything above 20mph and certainly not if I had a small child in the back.

Re-aiming the exhaust out the side won't really help at all, the fumes will still get sucked in. A pipe with a downward turn in the tip that points to the ground is most effective at reducing it but won't eliminate it entirely.

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That's exactly what happens. As an object moves through the air it displaces it and a vacuum is created behind. The air that was displaced has to come rushing back in behind. That's why a wing tapers to a point at the rear, that's why trash always gets sucked behind in the wake of a semi, that's why a boat tapers at the rear (water and air are both "fluids" in this case)...a million examples are possible.

You guys don't smell it? It's really bad with the windows up and the rear hatch open - how could you not smell it? If you're driving with the rear window open you should have all of the rest of the windows open. That way air can flow through the vehicle and fill the vacuum and keep most of it out. If I'm going slow off road I'll sometimes run with ALL of the windows open including the rear so the dogs can hang their heads out the back but not at anything above 20mph and certainly not if I had a small child in the back.

Re-aiming the exhaust out the side won't really help at all, the fumes will still get sucked in. A pipe with a downward turn in the tip that points to the ground is most effective at reducing it but won't eliminate it entirely.

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Damn, the old guy gets a base hit..!

Love the pic, Don Adams would be jealous!
 
Nah, Maxwell Smart drove a Sunbeam Tiger. Dustin Hoffman drove an Alfa in The Graduate.

That's not my car - I don't have the downturned exhaust. THIS is mine:
 

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Thanks! I'm fortunate to live in a place with fantastic roads/trails for both right near by. My 5th gen is the first automatic transmission vehicle I've ever owned. My wife was getting so exasperated by me when I was agonizing over what to get (it's getting really hard if you want a vehicle under 15 years old). "You've got the f'n Alfa Romeo if you want to drive a stick shift, damnit!" she'd say (or yell on occasion).

The old 'switch-the-Sunbeam-for-the-Alfa' trick...

I was >that< close...

LOL
 
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Picked up my ‘17 Pro today in Virginia and kicked around the area today getting to know her. Had an ‘08 FJ that didn’t have any issues, i was just ready for an upgrade. Now to make the 7 hour drive back home and get ready for the C4Fab rock sliders to come in. Can’t wait!:high5:
 

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