What do you do with sway bar after disconnecting end link?

[mtbtim]

Hey Dudes,

I'm curious, what do you do with the sway bar after you either used your quick disconnects to separate the sway bar from the end link or you just removed the end link? I read on some related threads that people just let it hang but it seems it would be better to have some type of strap system to hold it securely while you're wheeling.

Anyone got pics they can share of how they're securing their sway bar, front and rear? Of, is it ok to just let the bar hang?

 

[Unner]

IMO there is no need to disconnect the rear, your flex isn't limited by the sway bar end links, the shock length limits your flex, or bumpstops, if you extend them.

As for the front bar I've always wondered the same thing. I have a set of disconnects I used to run and then took off thinking they were making a noise, but they weren't... I never reinstalled since I never disconnected them anyway...

 

[reelamin]

IMO there is no need to disconnect the rear, your flex isn't limited by the sway bar end links, the shock length limits your flex, or bumpstops, if you extend them.

As for the front bar I've always wondered the same thing. I have a set of disconnects I used to run and then took off thinking they were making a noise, but they weren't... I never reinstalled since I never disconnected them anyway...

BAM!! What he said...99% of stuff like this is guys doing EXTREME stuff limited to about .000005% of their vehicles use. Reality V Fantasy!!!!

 

[BrandonF]

Hey Dudes,

I'm curious, what do you do with the sway bar after you remove the end link?

Remove the rest of the swaybar...


But in all seriousness, they are right. With extended swaybar links and a suspension lift in the rear, you can still get a ton of droop. Stock links will, however, limit your droop and if you continue to max them out, they will break eventually. Mine did with a loud ping as they hit the inner fender and then shot off into the bushes.

The front swaybar though, it does severely limit the offroad performance of the front suspension. I recommend losing it if increased suspension travel and traction is what you're after. I ran only a rear swaybar for a while and I didnt find the sway to be that bad. The front end does lift a little more in corners but not a huge amount.

Disconnects are a pain in the ass in my opinion. My friend has them on his JK and its just one more thing to slow the day down. I don't run front or rear sways. If I wanted offroad performance AND actually cared about body roll, I'd run an extended rear sway and no front sway.

 

[Unner]

Sitting on extended bumpstop.
IMG_20170205_171106142 by Unner Unner, on Flickr

Fully flexed on the other side.
IMG_20170205_171218440 by Unner Unner, on Flickr

This is with extended links though.

 

[mtbtim]

BAM!! What he said...99% of stuff like this is guys doing EXTREME stuff limited to about .000005% of their vehicles use. Reality V Fantasy!!!!

Yeahhhhhhh. Well, while I respect your opinion, it does nothing to answer my question. I want to know because I'm installing some of the end links [MENTION=98153]MStudt[/MENTION] makes on [MENTION=146244]phokingchink[/MENTION] rig and I'm going to make a short video of the install. For the video, I'd like to share with the viewers what people do with the sway bar after they use the quick disconnects on the end links to separate the end links from the sway bar to get more suspension flex.

 

[Unner]

Yeahhhhhhh. Well, while I respect your opinion, it does nothing to answer my question. I want to know because I'm installing some of the end links [MENTION=98153]MStudt[/MENTION] makes on [MENTION=146244]phokingchink[/MENTION] rig and I'm going to make a short video of the install. For the video, I'd like to share with the viewers what people do with the sway bar after they use the quick disconnects on the end links to separate the end links from the sway bar to get more suspension flex.

I've also heard with the front it kinda holds itself there. I'm not sure if how it's shaped maybe it can't rotate much farther down than it has to to reach the end link without hitting the frame or a crossmember.

Try looking in Mstudt's for sale thread for the links, I think he mentions it somewhere in there.

 

[JayRolla]

I've also heard with the front it kinda holds itself there. I'm not sure if how it's shaped maybe it can't rotate much farther down than it has to to reach the end link without hitting the frame or a crossmember.

Try looking in Mstudt's for sale thread for the links, I think he mentions it somewhere in there.

If the rear had extended links than keep it connected. If don't hold you flex.

For the front I disconnect. Then unthread end link out so it can't interfere. I then leave the bar hanging. It never hits anything.

 

[MStudt]

I'll chime in on this. Every single time a member comes to me asking for disco's I always give the same speech. This member also got that speech, and he took my advise.

I let people know that disco's rears are not needed, and that they only need to extend their links. The back of our 4runner's flex very well with longer links. Disconnecting the rear isn't the best thing either due to the mounting position of the sway bar it. Since the sway bar is fixed to the axle there's no good way to move it out of the way. As the axle moves so does the sway bar, and that's going to happen if you're connected or not.

The front will benefit some from disco's, but you still need to be careful. Full droop on the front when disconnected could bind your CV. On the up side the sway can be held up with a bungee on either side with ease.

Mike

 

[JayRolla]

Remove the rest of the swaybar...


But in all seriousness, they are right. With extended swaybar links and a suspension lift in the rear, you can still get a ton of droop. Stock links will, however, limit your droop and if you continue to max them out, they will break eventually. Mine did with a loud ping as they hit the inner fender and then shot off into the bushes.

The front swaybar though, it does severely limit the offroad performance of the front suspension. I recommend losing it if increased suspension travel and traction is what you're after. I ran only a rear swaybar for a while and I didnt find the sway to be that bad. The front end does lift a little more in corners but not a huge amount.

Disconnects are a pain in the ass in my opinion. My friend has them on his JK and its just one more thing to slow the day down. I don't run front or rear sways. If I wanted offroad performance AND actually cared about body roll, I'd run an extended rear sway and no front sway.

I disconnect the front during air down. Saying they are a pita or slows you down is just being lazy. Front connected is night and day better when I mountain passes doing 55-70mph.

 

[mtbtim]

Ok, here's what I understand so far. Extend the rear with longer links but don't bother disconnecting when wheeling.

For the front, disconnect the end links and bungee the sway bar (I guess to the frame somewhere). And, know when you do this that there's a chance you could bind the CV joints due to flexing too far.

Is anyone using an aftermarket strap set-up to hold their sway bar out of the way? Like this one: https://www.northridge4x4.com/fits/...qhPV0VanDL3bEyae6lyuk-cdVHrankVbdIaAjsK8P8HAQ

If so, could you share a picture? Thanks.

 

[MStudt]

Ok, here's what I understand so far. Extend the rear with longer links but don't bother disconnecting when wheeling.

For the front, disconnect the end links and bungee the sway bar (I guess to the frame somewhere). And, know when you do this that there's a chance you could bind the CV joints due to flexing too far.

Is anyone using an aftermarket strap set-up to hold their sway bar out of the way? Like this one: https://www.northridge4x4.com/fits/...qhPV0VanDL3bEyae6lyuk-cdVHrankVbdIaAjsK8P8HAQ

If so, could you share a picture? Thanks.

Longer in the rear, and disco the front.

I wouldn't waste the money on the strap. The sway bar will swing up towards the fender. You can bungee one end to the inner fender without any issues.

 

[amalik]

If I wanted offroad performance AND actually cared about body roll, I'd run an extended rear sway and no front sway.

Or extended fronts as well for the best of both worlds? (More sway/roll safety)

 

[mtbtim]

Longer in the rear, and disco the front.

I wouldn't waste the money on the strap. The sway bar will swing up towards the fender. You can bungee one end to the inner fender without any issues.

Roger that. Thanks Mike.